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Dec 7, 2017 - 5:28:41 AM
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All Americans Must Pause to Remember this Day in History
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Dec 7, 2017 - 3:43:12 PM

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Indeed! Thanks for the reminder!

Dec 7, 2017 - 11:29:56 PM
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Ironically, the attack on Pearl Harbor gave some comfort to Winston Churchill, because the United States was finally all the way in the war, and not just contributing material support.

And Admiral Yamamoto, who planned the attack, told his superiors that he could "run wild" for six months to a year, but, after that, the Americans would become too strong to defeat. He was right; the battle of Midway came six months later.

Churchill and Yamamoto both knew the industrial capacity of the United States.

Dec 8, 2017 - 7:03:37 AM

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Yamamoto had gone to college in the US and was very aware of our capabilities. He knew what was going to eventually happen. I have mentioned on here before that my Sister-in-Law's uncle was the commanding general of Marine aviation in the Pacific and she recently gave me all of his papers, including many secret and top secret documents on the conduct of the war in the Pacific. It is fascinating going over them and so much information that is rarely see about both the mundane things (supplying fresh food to troops) and the conduct of the war (Pappy Boyington's tips for aerial combat).

Dec 8, 2017 - 7:36:58 AM

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I had an Uncle at Pearl Harbor. My mom, talks of the many weeks it took, for the family to learn that he had survived, due to the communications chaos and limitations. I grew up, based on movies and parents and friends discussion, that a "sneak attack" was absolute evil. Yes, the Japanese diplomats etc were sneaky and dishonest, (what politicians don't lie, eh) but I don't know if I would consider a smart military plan evil. Civilians die in most battle don't they. Perhaps it did immediately put us into a rage and a citizen all-in mode to achieve what Yamamoto feared.

A visit to the Arizona memorial is on my bucket list. My dad spent much of his wartime in a military hospital in Hawaii after life-threatening injury on a battleship. My mother talked of the emotion, when they made their visit their in the 1970s.
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Dec 10, 2017 - 8:41:08 AM
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Tommy5

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Pearl Harbor didn’t put the US into war with Germany,Hitler declared war on the US a few days after Pearl Harbor, it was on of the worse mistakes Hitler made along with invading the Soviet Union.Hitlers submarine commanders told him that by declaring war on the US ,unrestrained Uboat attacks would starve England into accepting a cease fire agreement with Hitler.Ironically of all the nations that Hitler went to war with ,the US was the only one he bothered to actaully declare war on before attacking . The attack on Pearl Harbor was a pre-emptive strike ,the only reason the fleet was at Pearl Harbor in the first place,instead of San Diego was so it could be closer to the Philippines and could destroy the Japanese fleet when the Japanese attacked the Philippines to secure their flank as they advanced into Southeast Asia .The Japanese advanced into the Dutch East Indies to secure valuable raw materials like oil and metal and rubber which the US had stopped suppling them because of the war in China. The Japanese final ultimatum was to be delivered before the attack began but the embassy messed this up and the Roosevelt administration took full advantage of this mistake by coming up with the sneak attack narrative. The sneak attack story also has a racist tint ,after all, those people would have to cheat to destroy our magnificent fleet and that rather then their competence or our navy’s incompetence was the reason for the disaster.

Edited by - Tommy5 on 12/10/2017 08:43:23

Dec 10, 2017 - 3:49 PM
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Pretty much nailed it Tommy. Many people do not know the connection between China, Japan, and the United States as it related to WWII.

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