STUD figmo Al - Posted - 09/18/2024:  10:34:39

Outa a truck bed... ;0)

 

Owen - Posted - 09/18/2024:  10:41:35

Yabbut, what he should have is one of these  :

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 09/18/2024:  10:44:40

I don't think so..! :0)

Texasbanjo - Posted - 09/18/2024:  14:21:18

Looks like it's been rode hard and put away wet more than a few times.

chuckv97 - Posted - 09/18/2024:  14:24:02

Ya makes yer bed & ya better lie in it….

steve davis - Posted - 09/19/2024:  05:41:44

Can't see it when you're driving or fill it up with stuff.
The only bad bed is one that's rusted out.

Buddur - Posted - 09/20/2024:  09:21:15

One of the many reasons PA has annual inspections...

...to ensure vehicles are road-worthy.

steve davis - Posted - 09/20/2024:  18:08:48

We used to be able to paint the name of our town on the door of a tough old truck and be able to travel 10 miles past our town line.
Basically for going to the lumber store or the dump.I don't know if this is still allowed.I'll ask them at the Town Office when I pick up my Absentee Ballot.

1935tb-11 - Posted - 09/22/2024:  08:37:16

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Originally posted by steve davis

Can't see it when you're driving or fill it up with stuff.

The only bad bed is one that's rusted out.

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thats what 3/4 inch 4x8 sheet of plywood was made for,,,,

1935tb-11 - Posted - 09/22/2024:  08:38:29

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Originally posted by Owen

Yabbut, what he should have is one of these  :

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thats one of them sunday go to meeting truck beds

steve davis - Posted - 09/22/2024:  16:04:40

I just noticed my inspection sticker ran out last month.
Gotta pop in to my local garage in the morning.
That old bed just needs a decent bumper replacement.Cab needs a window.
When I gave out "stickers" at our local service station the list of checks was printed on a single 8x11 piece of paper.
It's a small book,now.

Owen - Posted - 09/22/2024:  17:06:58

To my thinking, the missing or non-operative tail light would be qualify as "safety," but I'm not so sure about the bumper* or the rear windows.  Lots of vans and trucks are apparently operated safely without even having windows in the rear of the cab, and that tells me a rear cab window is not a "safety" feature, per se.

* - unless there was actual risk that something could become detached / fall off.  And I guess there's the theoretical risk to a small car if it rear-ended the truck ..... a la Mansfield bars.

A neighbor had a old(er) semi farm truck.  He maintained it adequately, but said that when it had a "rough" paint job he was continually getting checked .... not so once he painted it.  Go figure!!!   The plywood sides on my utility trailer could use a coat of paint ....  something my wife reminds me of periodically, along with the rationale: "You know what Jim said about his truck????"   

BanjoLink - Posted - 09/23/2024:  07:56:21

Wonder if the warranty has expired on his bed liner ...... or maybe he should take up the extended warranty from the folks that call me twice a day.

1935tb-11 - Posted - 09/23/2024:  08:02:29

i had a 74 cheyenne pick up we called the war horse,, me and pop used it for hauling wood out of the forest to the house,,, it had been through the wars.
454 auto long bed 4x4 geared so it would climb a tree... about 8 miles per gallon.
also served as my snow truck in winter. crank it up in the mornings and the whole country side knew you were awake. 2 thrush mufflers right under the bed with no tailpipes.. miss that old truck

Buddur - Posted - 09/23/2024:  09:45:30

You could easily get away with driving that truck in Ohio...

...as long as the lights are in working order.

steve davis - Posted - 09/23/2024:  13:23:05

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Originally posted by Owen

To my thinking, the missing or non-operative tail light would be qualify as "safety," but I'm not so sure about the bumper* or the rear windows.  Lots of vans and trucks are apparently operated safely without even having windows in the rear of the cab, and that tells me a rear cab window is not a "safety" feature, per se.

* - unless there was actual risk that something could become detached / fall off.  And I guess there's the theoretical risk to a small car if it rear-ended the truck ..... a la Mansfield bars.

A neighbor had a old(er) semi farm truck.  He maintained it adequately, but said that when it had a "rough" paint job he was continually getting checked .... not so once he painted it.  Go figure!!!   The plywood sides on my utility trailer could use a coat of paint ....  something my wife reminds me of periodically, along with the rationale: "You know what Jim said about his truck????"   

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Not being able to inspect this truck means all we have is this picture.

Light replacement would be the easiest and cheapest (junkyard item) compared to the rear window and bumper.

Bumper is a must replace item because the sharp edges of the rusted out parts aren't allowed by law.

In this condition the smooth and faired bumper has turned into a huge saw.

steve davis - Posted - 09/23/2024:  13:41:52

In our inspection law all the windows must be present and made out of safety glass.

Owen - Posted - 09/25/2024:  14:22:45

Because something or other "is the law" doesn't address the safety aspect per se.  I'll concede that a jagged piece of metal would be more dangerous than a smooth one ... and "anything's possible." 

Some years back, I had a school bus driver tell me [i.e. I took him at his word] that in this part of the world having missing piping trim at seams on school bus seats could be grounds for failing a safety inspection. 

Last time I checked, our "law" calls for all manufacturer-installed lights to be working.  I've had vehicles where the light in the never-used ash tray was inoperative and ditto for the bulb on one of the two fan switches for the "dual climate controlled" passenger compartment.  Somehow I didn't feel less safe, or think I was exposing others to elevated risk.  I had a friend whose vehicle failed a safety because there was "too much oil" in/around the engine compartment ... I didn't bother to see what "the law" actually called for.  My experience/observation is that the law can be an ass.

Is the risk created by a missing window, or a window covered by an opaque covering, primarily a risk to the occupants or to others?

steve davis - Posted - 09/25/2024:  14:46:18

Of course it addresses the safety aspect.That's what laws are for.
We can't have rusted out,jagged holes in the car or truck bodies either because in an accident they are cutting tools so there's a law.
Laws help protect us from those that don't care.

Owen - Posted - 09/25/2024:  16:36:15

Yep, that's why I said "... a jagged piece of metal would be more dangerous than a smooth one ... and "anything's possible." "

From  the broken record dept.: "Is the risk created by a missing window, or a window covered by an opaque covering, primarily a risk to the occupants or to others?"

How, and from what,  are we "protected" by having both fan switches backlit lites working, and an operational ash-tray light [esp. in a never-used ash tray], and no missing piping on school bus seats?   

steve davis - Posted - 09/26/2024:  05:46:52

Missing windows are a danger as are windows made out of regular glass or plexiglas because safety glass protects the occupants and pedestrians from flying shards and missing glass allows vehicle contents to exit or enter the vehicle.
Safety glass has quite a lot of strength and the ability to contain or repel flying objects.

Owen - Posted - 09/26/2024:  06:21:30

The contents entering/exiting the vehicle scenario carries as much weight as having side windows or moon roofs that can open ..... like I said anything can happen [i.e. some things are theoretically/hypothetically possible]. 

One of my farming neighbors was regaling me about how a second neighbor upped the pace during harvest, and gave an example: #1 was following #2 along the road as hustled out in his half-ton to his combine one fall.  As he made a faster than leisurely left-hand turn from the road to the approach, the passenger door flew open.  First guy's summation: "I thought we were gonna lose Susan* there for a minute."

* - number two's wife.

From the broken record dept.: "How, and from what,  are we "protected" by having both fan switches backlit lites working, and an operational ash-tray light [esp. in a never-used ash tray], and no missing piping on school bus seats?"

steve davis - Posted - 09/26/2024:  07:18:19

There's nothing hypothetical about the advantages of safety glass or not allowing any jagged metal exposed.
It's simply common sense ,common courtesy and it's the law.Our sticker laws are very well thought out here in Maine.

Owen - Posted - 09/26/2024:  07:44:26

Theoretically speaking, do you suppose if all windows were intact and made of safety glass we'd have 'way less (fewer?) Tim Horton's cups and Bud Lite cans exiting the vehicle(s)?   

Do Maine's very well thought out regulations call for all manufacturer-installed lights/bulbs to be working?   

From the broken record dept.: "How, and from what,  are we "protected" by having both fan switches backlit lites working, and an operational ash-tray light [esp. in a never-used ash tray], and no missing piping on school bus seats?"    

Edit: Years ago, I was at a tire shop with my fiberglass bodied trike (avatar).  The guy running the shop told me that if he had his way there would be no fiberglass car bodies/parts as the glass particles are bad news when a broken piece cuts human flesh.  My non-medical common sense agrees that the small glass fragments would be problematic, but apparently the guys that come up with the well thought out regulations don't agree.   And from a non-theoretical standpoint, think of the mess the fragments would create if/when my wife and I are minding our own business having coffee and enjoying our climate-changing campfire beside our [fiberglass] SurfSide trailer and some n'er-do-well [probably "doesn't care"] drives into it and it becomes broken and ... ah, you can figure the rest.

Edited by - Owen on 09/26/2024 08:00:52

BanjoLink - Posted - 09/26/2024:  08:49:09

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Originally posted by steve davis

There's nothing hypothetical about the advantages of safety glass or not allowing any jagged metal exposed.

It's simply common sense ,common courtesy and it's the law.Our sticker laws are very well thought out here in Maine.

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Are your state inspection laws making driving any safer?  If so, statistics in other states that have done away with annual inspections have not seen any evidence that it does.  Basically a waste of time and money.

steve davis - Posted - 09/26/2024:  09:11:49

I got my inspection license in 1970 when things were simpler.
Because of accident results and simple science the criteria was increased.
Any state can do what they want with how much junk is allowed on their highways.

I'm very proud of Maine's very well thought out inspection laws and our use of common sense and respect for our fellow motorists.
It's a good feeling knowing the general healthy condition of a vehicle wearing Maine license plates.

steve davis - Posted - 09/27/2024:  14:50:30

When I was stationed in Germany (West Germany back then) the Autobahn was very fast.Porches and even a few Lambos among others would zip by at 150ish.
No inspection stickers then,but if a vehicle involved in the crash had worn out critical parts it was an added liability.

Sending your kids out to a dance in your car with worn out tires,brakes or suspension parts close to falling out is reckless and inviting danger.It's not easy for many folks to understand when their parts are close to failure.
It just happens all at once especially when a panic situation arises and someone stands on the brake pedal with both feet.

An inspection mechanic saves a lot of lives because nothing bad happens.

banjoT1 - Posted - 09/27/2024:  15:49:13

FWIW .....I live in Western Canada - not too far out from major cities, but nonetheless, In an area of high speed, long-distance driving, where occasionally you might subject your vehicle to the durability challenges of the (B.C.) Coqihala highway.

('Coq' spelling ?)



Junker, ''beaters', marginally or unmaintained vehicles typically DO NOT survive, much less seen, outside of urban cities/communities. And, other than say, from April to October, if your vehicle cannot meet the service standards for the road and climate conditions, then simply put, your life, and family's life, are truly at risk.



So, these factors largely sort out who is entitled and prepared to venture out away from nearby family and tow truck rescuers.

Edited by - banjoT1 on 09/27/2024 15:50:43

steve davis - Posted - 09/28/2024:  06:17:58

I don't trust everyone to decide if they are safe for the road or not.

steve davis - Posted - 09/28/2024:  09:21:23

Just got back from my annual car inspection.Everything great except for the R/R tire.Legal tread depth,but won't be within the coming year.

Just got on line and ordered 2 Black Hawks (matching the new fronts),but found out they've gone up in price.

The last 2 I bought were $46/ea.Now they're $55.

Free shipping,though.Warranteed for 50k miles I figure I'll get my money's worth.

Free shipping to my porch no later than Oct. 2 and I'll have all 4 matching.

$50 at my local shop for mounting and balancing.



2 days over the month grace period,but arrangements having been made with the shop overrules that.

Edited by - steve davis on 09/28/2024 09:36:59

steve davis - Posted - 09/28/2024:  09:45:09

While I was waiting for the mechanic this morning the fellow ahead of me said "I'm still using the bridge I got from you a couple of years ago."
As we talked I remembered him as the guy that hooked up my new Direct TV service.He's an at home player and noticed the banjos and parts when he was here and took a bridge with him when he left.

I told him about the 3 weekly jams and hope to see him at one.

BanjoLink - Posted - 09/29/2024:  21:15:01

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Originally posted by steve davis

I got my inspection license in 1970 when things were simpler.

Because of accident results and simple science the criteria was increased.

Any state can do what they want with how much junk is allowed on their highways.



I'm very proud of Maine's very well thought out inspection laws and our use of common sense and respect for our fellow motorists.

It's a good feeling knowing the general healthy condition of a vehicle wearing Maine license plates.

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I know you are proud of Maine's inspection laws ........ but I am also proud that my state based their decision to drop the inspections based on scientific studies.

theamericanconsumer.org/2019/0...us-safer/

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 09/30/2024:  04:22:19

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Originally posted by steve davis

I don't trust everyone to decide if they are safe for the road or not.

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Me neithah...

Some folks drive way to fast... ;0)

steve davis - Posted - 09/30/2024:  05:46:40

There's no way to graph accidents that didn't happen because of vehicles that got brought up to a higher standard.
But there is the common sense that a safer vehicle causes less problems on the road.

Owen - Posted - 09/30/2024:  07:31:57

Thanks for the ^^ link John.  I had been wondering what proportion of accidents are "caused" (?) by mechanical defects, but was a bit reluctant to spend mucho time searching, and whaddayaknow ?? It's right there ^^ in plain Henglish: "Federal investigators have found that mechanical component failures are responsible for only 2 percent of accidents. By contrast, driver errors account for 94 percent of all crashes."  But, but, but, I'd be surprised if the 2% isn't actually high and the 94% low.

BanjoLink - Posted - 09/30/2024:  07:53:53

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Originally posted by STUD figmo Al

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Originally posted by steve davis

I don't trust everyone to decide if they are safe for the road or not.

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Me neithah...

Some folks drive way to fast... ;0)

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I have always heard, but do not know if it is true, that people that exceed the speed limit by 20 mph and those that travel under the speed limit by 20 mph cause the majority of the accidents.  I have always assumed that they may not always be the ones in the accident but the cause of the accident.

BanjoLink - Posted - 09/30/2024:  07:58:19

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Originally posted by Owen

Thanks for the ^^ link John.  I had been wondering what proportion of accidents are "caused" (?) by mechanical defects, but was a bit reluctant to spend mucho time searching, and whaddayaknow ?? It's right there ^^ in plain Henglish: "Federal investigators have found that mechanical component failures are responsible for only 2 percent of accidents. By contrast, driver errors account for 94 percent of all crashes."  But, but, but, I'd be surprised if the 2% isn't actually high and the 94% low.

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Owen, it only makes common sense that if every car was safe nd sound mechanically and otherwise the roads would be safer ........ even if only 2%.  However, I am inclined not only to think, but know, vehicle inspection programs are not very effective in making sure that vehicles are indeed safe.  The tire dealer that I used to take mine into never inspected cars.  For the $2.50 they were allowed to charge, they would scrape off your old sticker and put a new one on.  That is all they could afford to do for that fee.

Owen - Posted - 09/30/2024:  09:32:33

I think this site is for a garage chain, but it says 20-30 minutes for an inspection maineautoservice.com/services/...%20today. 

I haven't checked MB's regulations recently, but sometime in the latter part of the 90s one of the times they called for an inspection when there was a change in ownership. I took one vehicle to a garage a few towns up the road ... the buzz on the street was that he would let some cosmetic issues pass, that more zealous guys would fail.  That was the way it panned out in my case ... but as it was entirely cosmetic, not mechanical,  I was okay with it.  However my common sense questions how the change in ownership changes the "safety" (?) risk ... IF the issue was truly safety, why was the previous owner allowed to operate it?

Back around the same time MB allotted either 45 minutes, or set the fee at $45. [I'm too lazy to try to "look it up."]   In any event, the mechanics were unhappy with both.  The mechanics across the border in SK were allotted a bit more time and the fee was significantly higher; the only diff in the two check lists was that SK had 4 or 6 extra non-mechanical points.  C'est la vie??

Edited by - Owen on 09/30/2024 09:42:32

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 09/30/2024:  10:17:59

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Originally posted by STUD figmo Al

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Originally posted by steve davis

I don't trust everyone to decide if they are safe for the road or not.

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Me neithah...

Some folks drive way to fast... ;0)

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I have always heard, but do not know if it is true, that people that exceed the speed limit by 20 mph and those that travel under the speed limit by 20 mph cause the majority of the accidents.  I have always assumed that they may not always be the ones in the accident but the cause of the accident.

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Ok..so if the speed limmit is 65mph.

Then 85 mph is fine..( btw..it is not..)

But 45 mph causes accidents..

Far as i know 40 is the minimim speed allowed..

Combat speed..

If i am driving leagle..n..within the limmits..

What..or how other people behave..

Is..on..Them.......

Edited by - STUD figmo Al on 09/30/2024 10:19:23

Owen - Posted - 09/30/2024:  10:32:24

As a general rule, why not percentages rather than absolute numbers when discussing risk in relation to a posted speed? [Especially if/when discussing things in metric!!!   ]

10 mph over a posted limit of 30 will create greater risk than 10 over a posted limit of 70 ... at least theoretically/hypothetically???   

Edited by - Owen on 09/30/2024 10:33:13

steve davis - Posted - 09/30/2024:  11:41:48

If you have 10-20 cars behind you (and nobody in front of you) common courtesy says either speed up or pull over and let them by.

Edited by - steve davis on 09/30/2024 11:42:48

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 09/30/2024:  15:23:43

Speed limit in the dynamite truck...
Sorry no exceptions..

BanjoLink - Posted - 09/30/2024:  18:02:00

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Originally posted by BanjoLink

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Originally posted by STUD figmo Al

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Originally posted by steve davis

I don't trust everyone to decide if they are safe for the road or not.

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Me neithah...

Some folks drive way to fast... ;0)

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I have always heard, but do not know if it is true, that people that exceed the speed limit by 20 mph and those that travel under the speed limit by 20 mph cause the majority of the accidents.  I have always assumed that they may not always be the ones in the accident but the cause of the accident.

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Ok..so if the speed limmit is 65mph.

Then 85 mph is fine..( btw..it is not..)

But 45 mph causes accidents..

Far as i know 40 is the minimim speed allowed..

Combat speed..

 

If i am driving leagle..n..within the limmits..

What..or how other people behave..

Is..on..Them.......

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I think the problem is on the interstate with a 70 mph speed limit, most people are going 75 to 79, as you will not get ticketed for that.  But running up on a person doing 40 (I think the minimum) or even 50 can be dangerous, although they are within the law ....... or how about someone doing 90 running up on someone doing 40.  The 40 mph driver may be legal, but can cause problems on the highway ....... especially at night. 

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 10/01/2024:  03:36:01

Yeah thos camo convoys are hard to see at night...

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 10/01/2024:  04:33:28

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Originally posted by STUD figmo Al

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Originally posted by BanjoLink

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Originally posted by STUD figmo Al

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Originally posted by steve davis

I don't trust everyone to decide if they are safe for the road or not.

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Me neithah...

Some folks drive way to fast... ;0)

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I have always heard, but do not know if it is true, that people that exceed the speed limit by 20 mph and those that travel under the speed limit by 20 mph cause the majority of the accidents.  I have always assumed that they may not always be the ones in the accident but the cause of the accident.

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Ok..so if the speed limmit is 65mph.

Then 85 mph is fine..( btw..it is not..)

But 45 mph causes accidents..

Far as i know 40 is the minimim speed allowed..

Combat speed..

 

If i am driving leagle..n..within the limmits..

What..or how other people behave..

Is..on..Them.......

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I think the problem is on the interstate with a 70 mph speed limit, most people are going 75 to 79, as you will not get ticketed for that.  But running up on a person doing 40 (I think the minimum) or even 50 can be dangerous, although they are within the law ....... or how about someone doing 90 running up on someone doing 40.  The 40 mph driver may be legal, but can cause problems on the highway ....... especially at night. 

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I would say the guy dooin 90..

Would be wreckless.... ;0)

Or..wreck..more.. as it were...

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 10/01/2024:  04:37:56

School busses.. must adhere to the speed limmit..also..

I have no problum driving with or around school busses..

The menaces that they are...
Probly should be placarded too..fer thier cargo too.
Posible ..Hazmat..?

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 10/01/2024:  04:43:54

I do not much care for the attitude..the
hyway or public roads are a public race track...

Too much ..Hooray fer me n.."pluck" you..

We share the road..
All of us..

STUD figmo Al - Posted - 10/01/2024:  04:58:32

Like many of youse guys..
I have been stuck behind slower drivers..
Yes..can be anoying..
They are slow...so it is ok..to pass them in a no-passing zone...right?

But it was the slow guys fault i had a head on..(certinly not the passers fault)
Why there oughta be a law...!

There is..
Do not pass in a no passing ...

..zone..

Do you really want folks to drive past thier own driving abilities..?

That is what you are all really whining about..
You are sooo..important..n the slow poke is in yer way..

steve davis - Posted - 10/01/2024:  06:05:58

Exercise good common sense and courtesy.