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BanjolinaJolie - Posted - 03/11/2024: 06:29:17
Currently reading the muller / koehler's Frailing the 5-String Banjo.
Chapter 9 is called the Roll and has a tab for Weevily Wheat. I can't see much information about clawhammer rolls online. I seems to be a brush with all fingers on the right hand.
does anyone have a video to demonstrate this technique?
trapdoor2 - Posted - 03/11/2024: 08:30:49
This book was first published in 1973. I don't know why I never bought a copy. I have copies of almost every other Clawhammer tutor. Terminology changes.
Few people (I don't know anyone who does) still use the term "Frailing" and fewer use the term "roll"...it just being a brush stroke. Some use all fingers, like a Flamenco guitar...I just use one finger. I think I've seen a differentiation between a straight arpeggio and one that ends with the 5th string...but I can't remember what somebody called either. Some people use the rhythmic value to differentiate the two. Quarter-note brush vs 1/8 note brush, etc.
raybob - Posted - 03/11/2024: 08:53:28
There's the California Roll by Steve Baughman. Look it up on YouTube and see if it's something you can use.
JLouis Thiry - Posted - 03/11/2024: 10:57:11
I have not seen a video demonstrating this banjo technique, but if you search Google for "rasgueado technique" you will find 1001 videos showing the technique for flamenco guitar. it's the same as the "Galax lick" which consists of four fingers brushes (beginning with the liitle finger) in the duration of a single note ending on the fifth string with the thumb (listen to Clarence Ashley's Cuckoo Bird)
On the flexible disc accompanying the book we can clearly hear what it is all about when talking of "roll" on the song "weevilly wheat". JLouis
Kellie - Posted - 03/11/2024: 11:45:54
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Originally posted by trapdoor2
This book was first published in 1973. I don't know why I never bought a copy. I have copies of almost every other Clawhammer tutor. Terminology changes.
Few people (I don't know anyone who does) still use the term "Frailing" and fewer use the term "roll"...it just being a brush stroke. Some use all fingers, like a Flamenco guitar...I just use one finger. I think I've seen a differentiation between a straight arpeggio and one that ends with the 5th string...but I can't remember what somebody called either. Some people use the rhythmic value to differentiate the two. Quarter-note brush vs 1/8 note brush, etc.
The drum slide is the only technique I know of that uses all five fingers. Isn't a roll just an arpeggio? I'm confused with the terminology I guess.
trapdoor2 - Posted - 03/11/2024: 12:45:29
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Originally posted by Kellie
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Originally posted by trapdoor2
This book was first published in 1973. I don't know why I never bought a copy. I have copies of almost every other Clawhammer tutor. Terminology changes.
Few people (I don't know anyone who does) still use the term "Frailing" and fewer use the term "roll"...it just being a brush stroke. Some use all fingers, like a Flamenco guitar...I just use one finger. I think I've seen a differentiation between a straight arpeggio and one that ends with the 5th string...but I can't remember what somebody called either. Some people use the rhythmic value to differentiate the two. Quarter-note brush vs 1/8 note brush, etc.
The drum slide is the only technique I know of that uses all five fingers. Isn't a roll just an arpeggio? I'm confused with the terminology I guess.
As @JLouis Thiry says, it is just the Galax lick, which is a drum-slide ending with the thumb sounding the 5th string. There is no consensus with terminology and "folk" techniques! 
Kellie - Posted - 03/11/2024: 17:26:23
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Originally posted by trapdoor2
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Originally posted by Kellie
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Originally posted by trapdoor2
This book was first published in 1973. I don't know why I never bought a copy. I have copies of almost every other Clawhammer tutor. Terminology changes.
Few people (I don't know anyone who does) still use the term "Frailing" and fewer use the term "roll"...it just being a brush stroke. Some use all fingers, like a Flamenco guitar...I just use one finger. I think I've seen a differentiation between a straight arpeggio and one that ends with the 5th string...but I can't remember what somebody called either. Some people use the rhythmic value to differentiate the two. Quarter-note brush vs 1/8 note brush, etc.
The drum slide is the only technique I know of that uses all five fingers. Isn't a roll just an arpeggio? I'm confused with the terminology I guess.
As @JLouis Thiry says, it is just the Galax lick, which is a drum-slide ending with the thumb sounding the 5th string. There is no consensus with terminology and "folk" techniques!
Oddly enough in Farland's book The drum slide is described as ending with the pinky not beginning with it.
R.D. Lunceford - Posted - 03/12/2024: 17:47:26
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Originally posted by trapdoor2
... and fewer use the term "roll"...it just being a brush stroke. Some use all fingers, like a Flamenco guitar...I just use one finger. I think I've seen a differentiation between a straight arpeggio and one that ends with the 5th string...but I can't remember what somebody called either. Some people use the rhythmic value to differentiate the two. Quarter-note brush vs 1/8 note brush, etc.
I'm with trapdoor2 on this. on the few occasions I write a roll into my tabs, it's an arpeggiated chord played with one finger (index or middle). I'll go out on a limb and say the rasgueado, IMO, is a thing of diminishing returns if it takes too much work- but really, it's not my place to say.
