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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: "Fire Ball Mail" contest break


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Ira Gitlin - Posted - 02/17/2024:  10:23:44


As requested by Bad Bernie in the "Other Banjo-Related Topics" forum, here's a break from my contest arrangement of "Fire Ball Mail": banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26941 .



The bar 1 of the tab consists of pickup notes; bar 2 is the "real" first measure. I've included RH fingering, which gets a little tricky in places, but you're on your own for LH fingering. ;^)



I was trying to imagine the sort of thing Tony Furtado (who was living in the DC area at the time) might come up with. After the first 4 or 5 bars, I started thinking, "Hey, why not just go for it?", so I kept going higher and higher up the neck. Note the places where I "push" notes, playing them just before the beat.



IIRC, when I played this at Winfield in 1992 I really muffed bars 11 and 12; those are still the trickiest for me. Years after I came up with this arrangement, I noticed that despite all the rhythmic and tonal wildness, it nevertheless follows the basic contours of the original melody.


Edited by - Ira Gitlin on 02/17/2024 10:24:45

Ira Gitlin - Posted - 02/17/2024:  11:06:58


Here's a PDF.


Bad Bernie - Posted - 02/18/2024:  03:25:18


Wow! Thanks Ira! I've got to try to learn it now though. Yikes!!  frown

Jack Baker - Posted - 02/18/2024:  06:06:29


Ira,


That's quite a Foray you've got there. I didn't know that many notes even existed...Jack laugh




Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

Here's a PDF.






 


Edited by - Jack Baker on 02/18/2024 06:11:58

chuckv97 - Posted - 02/18/2024:  11:57:18


Super, Ira! Are there any existing videos/audios of your performance at Winfield?

Ira Gitlin - Posted - 02/19/2024:  06:53:50


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Super, Ira! Are there any existing videos/audios of your performance at Winfield?






No, I don't think so. That was back in the days before everyone had a high-quality video camera in their pocket.



 

Flying Eagle - Posted - 02/19/2024:  07:47:36


quote:

Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

As requested by Bad Bernie in the "Other Banjo-Related Topics" forum, here's a break from my contest arrangement of "Fire Ball Mail": banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26941 .






That's some crazy looking tab. Any way you could post a soundfile of this at a moderate tempo?  Thanks!

Ira Gitlin - Posted - 02/19/2024:  07:50:23


quote:

Originally posted by Flying Eagle

quote:

Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

As requested by Bad Bernie in the "Other Banjo-Related Topics" forum, here's a break from my contest arrangement of "Fire Ball Mail": banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26941 .






That's some crazy looking tab. Any way you could post a soundfile of this at a moderate tempo?  Thanks!






Maybe. FWIW, I wouldn't be able to do it at anything more than a moderate tempo without some intensive woodshedding.

TScottHilton - Posted - 02/19/2024:  11:08:29


quote:

Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

As requested by Bad Bernie in the "Other Banjo-Related Topics" forum, here's a break from my contest arrangement of "Fire Ball Mail": banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26941 .



The bar 1 of the tab consists of pickup notes; bar 2 is the "real" first measure. I've included RH fingering, which gets a little tricky in places, but you're on your own for LH fingering. ;^)



I was trying to imagine the sort of thing Tony Furtado (who was living in the DC area at the time) might come up with. After the first 4 or 5 bars, I started thinking, "Hey, why not just go for it?", so I kept going higher and higher up the neck. Note the places where I "push" notes, playing them just before the beat.



IIRC, when I played this at Winfield in 1992 I really muffed bars 11 and 12; those are still the trickiest for me. Years after I came up with this arrangement, I noticed that despite all the rhythmic and tonal wildness, it nevertheless follows the basic contours of the original melody.






I heard your pickyfingers podcast interview talking about this arrangement. Super cool! I enjoyed the advice on how to create an arrangement with a contest in mind.

Bad Bernie - Posted - 02/21/2024:  08:48:13


I tried, Ira.  Honestly, I tried.  I tried until my spirit was broken, overwhelmed by crushing feelings of deep inadequacy.  



I'm particularly fond of the two un-bends in measure 15.   But the rest of it defeated me.  



I'm now booked in for some emergency trauma counseling.   

Jack Baker - Posted - 02/21/2024:  11:36:38


Bernie,

Don't feel too bad. I can't touch Ira's arrangement either. Too many things to keep track of and I can't seem to find the melody. Maybe when I learn banjo I will HA. NYU degrees weren't enough--I want my money back from them crying..Jack


Edited by - Jack Baker on 02/21/2024 11:39:41

Ira Gitlin - Posted - 02/22/2024:  06:15:23


quote:

Originally posted by Bad Bernie

I tried, Ira.  Honestly, I tried.  I tried until my spirit was broken, overwhelmed by crushing feelings of deep inadequacy.  



I'm particularly fond of the two un-bends in measure 15.   But the rest of it defeated me.  



I'm now booked in for some emergency trauma counseling.   






wink



Seriously, when I came up with it, I initially regarded it as a merely theoretical possibility--nothing that anyone could actually play up to tempo. I was a bit surprised myself that I could get it up to about 120 BPM. But that took months of practice!

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