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Tractor1 - Posted - 11/04/2022:  14:12:11


from1810--



archive.org/details/b22009243/...w=theater


Edited by - Tractor1 on 11/04/2022 14:25:25

Dan Gellert - Posted - 11/04/2022:  14:41:08


not really. it's a Persian kamanche, a bowed instrument more related to the fiddle than the banjo. The use of a stretched hide as the sound-board of a stringed instrument was well known from earliest antiquity-- just about everywhere EXCEPT Western Europe!

Nic Pennsylvania - Posted - 11/04/2022:  14:58:58


quote:

Originally posted by Dan Gellert

not really. it's a Persian kamanche, a bowed instrument more related to the fiddle than the banjo. The use of a stretched hide as the sound-board of a stringed instrument was well known from earliest antiquity-- just about everywhere EXCEPT Western Europe!






Indeed. I would also point to the gusli - which may be the oldest stringed instrument in Europe.



 

Tractor1 - Posted - 11/04/2022:  15:06:12


Not really possible---I beg to not agree -can't be proven either way --the first one to put a stick on a drum has never been pin pointed--where-when or inspiration--That is the only one I would point to--for sure

the text already called the instrument by name btw



I doubt western europe was not isolated


Edited by - Tractor1 on 11/04/2022 15:15:33







 

Tractor1 - Posted - 11/04/2022:  15:10:39


Even though I feel ganged up on -with the'' indeed'' ,I will have to run down that gusli-

tdennis - Posted - 11/04/2022:  15:24:59


I believe your, "possible banjo type predecessor" instrument dating is off by several thousand years.  Such a generic & broad description could take us far back in time. 


Edited by - tdennis on 11/04/2022 15:28:34

Tractor1 - Posted - 11/04/2022:  15:29:57


the book was published in 1810 -15 --so maybe you can go on and make a  point---- that seems to be in the wings --right now--



Ok I see you edited a bit more info--yes to truly go back -I'd like a ticket



also up the page I meant to say I doubt western Europe was isolated



 


Edited by - Tractor1 on 11/04/2022 15:37:54

Alvin Conder - Posted - 11/04/2022:  15:37:00


Similar instrument on page 377. Same book.

archive.org/details/b22009243/...w=theater

...I also collect old books....

Tractor1 - Posted - 11/04/2022:  15:40:55


btw on mine --the guy basically said -the music was an acquired taste--so it had to be kin

Tractor1 - Posted - 11/04/2022:  15:52:54


the nambi looks like a thumb piano (kalimba?} but on a banjo pot



different book


Edited by - Tractor1 on 11/04/2022 15:54:59



 

Dan Gellert - Posted - 11/04/2022:  16:38:39


quote:

Originally posted by Tractor1

 --the first one to put a stick on a drum has never been pin pointed--






yes, but we do know Egyptians were picking on banjeroid objects like the below, maybe 4000 years ago:



Tractor1 - Posted - 11/04/2022:  17:26:46


now you are talking--just what am I looking at--Dan

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