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jun3machina - Posted - 05/11/2022:  10:52:15


hello,

hoping I could get some help in answering a few questions about a banjo I am looking at. It's an early 60's (maybe 64-65?) model, serial number 2058. It has a rosewood headstock and maple (birdseye?) neck and resonator. It appears to be a model 32. I am trying to pinpoint the date year and whether this was a standard model (in these wood combinations, as I haven't seen as many ODEs in the lighter blonde maple) or another model or special order. The shellac shows crazing (tiny cracks) and wondering if this effects value at all. Many thanks!


Edited by - jun3machina on 05/11/2022 10:55:15










35planar - Posted - 05/11/2022:  12:30:53


I've thought about that banjo for months...You're right on with the date. The thing that makes it is it has the brass hoop mounted on the little risers the can be seen in the holes drilled in the integrated "flathead" ring. I had a very early 70's (late Baldwin/early Gretsch) version, same banjo. During the ODE years you could order any banjo with either a Peruvian mahogany or a maple neck--or rosewood in the fancier models. Though this is a Model 32 or Model 2--ish...later called a 2SR. 99% certain that's a Lifton resonator case.  The now late Cathy Barton played one her whole life. She played the Baldwin version with the removable flange instead of the individual flange plates. m.youtube.com/watch?v=u7buEXGVugY


Edited by - 35planar on 05/11/2022 12:38:59

35planar - Posted - 05/11/2022:  12:52:19


@jun3machina



I forgot to tag you regarding...see above. Cheers!


Edited by - 35planar on 05/11/2022 12:53:31

jun3machina - Posted - 05/11/2022:  13:06:02


Awh thank you for the help!

mikehalloran - Posted - 05/12/2022:  00:12:33


Weird not to see Model and Grade stampings. Usually, when those are missing, it was an experimental banjo or the rim was sold to Christy or someone else.



With ODE, one never really knows.

jun3machina - Posted - 05/12/2022:  12:31:39


quote:

Originally posted by mikehalloran

Weird not to see Model and Grade stampings. Usually, when those are missing, it was an experimental banjo or the rim was sold to Christy or someone else.



With ODE, one never really knows.






Interesting. Yeah i have tried to keep track of the history but I also know there's so many interesting one offs and banjos that defy the standards. 

heavy5 - Posted - 05/14/2022:  07:11:52


Had a rosewood ODE from about the same vintage except the resonator sides & flange were a one pc cast polished aluminum mated to the rosewood back . The craftsmanship was out standing .

Also u had the choice of a flyswatter or fiddle peghead which mine was fiddle w/ horizontal tuners like a guitar . I now regret selling it as my father in law , a foundry worker , cast a brass tone ring which , after machining , we lightly pressed into the ID of the aluminum one which greatly enhanced the tone . At one of the very early 70's Haney Berryville fests wandering around picking at night I ran into Ben Eldridge doing the same & he asked if my banjo was a pre war Gibson !

memories !


Edited by - heavy5 on 05/14/2022 07:17:10

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