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Banjobailey72 - Posted - 05/07/2022:  07:24:13


Did Gibson make a 60's RB100 "Bowtie"??? It has a bowtie style head stock but just dots on the fingerboard. Thanks for any information.

Old Hickory - Posted - 05/07/2022:  07:31:20


Not that I've ever seen.



How "bowtie" is the headstock? Bound? Inlaid?



That could be an owner modification.



Can you post or link to a photo?

The Old Timer - Posted - 05/07/2022:  07:35:59


All the RB 100 pegheads up until maybe 1969 had the same SHAPE as a Mastertone peghead. Some describe it as the Gibson "open book" shape. RB 100s had a gold Gibson decal instead of pearl inlay, no binding and no decorative inlay in the center (the one in Mastertones is called either a "tulip" or a "squashed frog").



Is your neck stained dark brown mahogany?   Or the black and orange Mastertone sunburst?  There should be a serial # stamped in the back of the peghead, whether RB 100 or Mastertone, if it's Gibson made.  If no serial number stampe, then someone made it for the banjo.



But, who knows? Gibson in their consistent inconsistency often put things together that weren't as the catalog described.


Edited by - The Old Timer on 05/07/2022 07:37:20

RioStat - Posted - 05/07/2022:  08:38:03


Like this ?



 




Culloden - Posted - 05/07/2022:  10:14:58


I think that the term "Bow Tie" is subjective. If the peghead is the same shape as the RB150 and RB250 bow tie banjos, then I would call the RB100 a bow tie as well. I go by the shape of the peghead, not the ornamentation. Some people refer to that shape as an open book or a dove wing but some of us still call it the bow tie.
The banjo that Scott shows in his post above is what an RB100 looked like all the way from 1949 to 1969. In 1970 the peghead shape changed to the fiddle style, the logo changed from a gold decal to a cheap looking pearl inlay and the sunburst finished changed to a solid shade of brown. I can't post what some of us call that shade of brown.

Old Hickory - Posted - 05/07/2022:  11:26:55


This photo shows the '70s RB100 continued the block decal, but on the fiddle cut peghead.





 



Pretty sure it was the 90s RB that had a cheap looking script inlay. The '70s RB-100 neck was also 3-piece laminated like the era's RB-250. But it continued the 1-piece flange of the earlier 100.



I've seen the "open book" Gibson guitar style headstock also referred to as "mustache."


Edited by - Old Hickory on 05/07/2022 11:31:52

Culloden - Posted - 05/07/2022:  12:26:19


Gibson did continue using the gold decal through most of the 70s. I believe it was near the end of production that they used the thin, cheap looking pearl inlay. Or, it may have just been a thin pearl overlay. It took me a while to find the picture.


Edited by - Culloden on 05/07/2022 12:27:41



 

Quagmire - Posted - 05/07/2022:  18:17:52


I always thought that style of peg head was called a “fly swatter”. I have a ‘49 tenor 100 with just the tone hoop and 60’s 100 5-string neck added and a ‘52 or ‘53 tenor 150 converted to a flathead “250” with a 60’s 5-string 250 neck with stainless steel frets and the resonator cutout for the 250 neck sized accordingly and no-hole Recording King tone ring installed (work done on the 250 by Chris Cioffi and he did a terrific job). Two of my favorite banjos.
Cheers,
Quagmire

Banjobailey72 - Posted - 05/07/2022:  20:23:50


quote:

Originally posted by RioStat

Like this ?



 


Yes I believe so???




 

Banjobailey72 - Posted - 05/07/2022:  20:37:37


Thanks Guy's for the great information! I saw this banjo at a music store and was skeptical about what they claimed it to be... and it's over priced as well 3k but it's a good sounding banjo, and I wanted to know what I was dealing with before I even thought about making a offer??? I was thinking around 1500$$$ and maybe 1800 max??? I know just enough about these Gibson banjos to get myself in trouble!??

Banjobailey72 - Posted - 05/07/2022:  20:46:40


This is the banjo, if can get this picture to upload.

BanjoLink - Posted - 05/07/2022:  20:54:46


quote:

Originally posted by Banjobailey72

This is the banjo, if can get this picture to upload.






RB-100 for sure but also over-priced .... for sure!

Emiel - Posted - 05/08/2022:  00:03:24


quote:

Originally posted by Banjobailey72

This is the banjo, if can get this picture to upload.






lightgauge - Posted - 05/08/2022:  04:34:25


I agree. Anyone paying $3000 for this needs assistance.

Culloden - Posted - 05/08/2022:  08:50:28


If you make an offer, $1500 might be fair but $1800 is a little steep. This banjo has the flat hoop instead of the arch top hoop which suggests that it might be a late model with the thin rim. RB100s from the late 40s to the early 60s had a thicker rim and are more desirable.
You would be better off keeping your eyes open for another RB100 that has a more reasonable price tag. Check the classified ads here. They come up for sale often enough.

J.Albert - Posted - 05/08/2022:  10:58:38


That RB100 is overpriced by at least 1,500.



As others have said, 1,200-1,500 might be a reasonable price.



But at the asking price you posted, DO NOT spend your money on that one.



$3,000 will "buy you a lot more" if you look elsewhere.

Old Hickory - Posted - 05/08/2022:  11:17:01


What others said. 



$3,000 buys you a 1950s-60s bowtie RB-250. No RB-100 is worth that much.



$3,000 buys you a post-88 RB-250 -- with money to spare.



$3,000 might buy you a post-88 RB-3.



$3,000 buys you a new Hatfield or Sullivan.



 



Also -- the banjo is mis-labeled. There's no such thing as an RB-100 "bowtie." Do you see any bowties? I don't see any bowties. I do see cam-style D-tuners. Can't see the full peghead shape. But dot inlays and unbound fretboard are correct for RB-100.

Old Hickory - Posted - 05/08/2022:  11:17:52


quote:

Originally posted by Culloden

Gibson did continue using the gold decal through most of the 70s. I believe it was near the end of production that they used the thin, cheap looking pearl inlay. Or, it may have just been a thin pearl overlay. It took me a while to find the picture.






Never saw one of those. Learn something new every day.

jun3machina - Posted - 05/08/2022:  12:10:22


Wayyy overpriced. Ive seen these sell under $1k on ebay

eubankss - Posted - 05/09/2022:  07:28:46


That banjo looks familiar. Does it have a tone ring installed?

PrairieSchooner - Posted - 05/10/2022:  07:06:54


Willie Watson plays one and sure makes it sound good. Too bad that one is way overpriced.

RioStat - Posted - 05/10/2022:  09:03:08


quote:

Originally posted by eubankss

That banjo looks familiar. Does it have a tone ring installed?






Which one ? 



There's photos of two different banjos in this thread.

Bradskey - Posted - 05/10/2022:  10:13:53


Technically, "bowtie" primarily refers to an inlay pattern, seen on pre-war RB-7 and a simpler variation on later RB-150/250 banjos. But the "flyswatter" peg head (or whatever you want to call it) is so closely associated to those later models that its presence is enough for some people to refer to a post-war RB-100 as a "bowtie" style, although the inlay is really just simple dots. In essence "bowtie" for many people has really come to mean all the guitar-like mid-century banjos produced by Gibson across models, including the peghead, tuners and inlays among other attributes.

eubankss - Posted - 05/10/2022:  11:49:45


quote:

Originally posted by RioStat

quote:

Originally posted by eubankss

That banjo looks familiar. Does it have a tone ring installed?






Which one ? 



There's photos of two different banjos in this thread.






I was talking about the 3K RB-100.

Banjobailey72 - Posted - 05/11/2022:  18:15:58


Thanks everyone for all the information and replies! I knew it was way overpriced and I was pretty positive it wasn't a Bowtie... I wasn't in the market for a 100 but it sounded nice and I thought about making a offer??? I'm actually looking for a 3 or a pre war conversation... I just sold a 250 and a walnut 4. Thanks again

mikehalloran - Posted - 05/12/2022:  16:33:37


I'm a big fan of the flat top RB-100. Properly set up, it has a nice "throaty" midrange that can keep up.

lcherney - Posted - 05/13/2022:  09:05:20


quote:Originally posted by Banjobailey72Thanks Guy's for the great information! I saw this banjo at a music store and was skeptical about what they claimed it to be... and it's over priced as well 3k but it's a good sounding banjo, and I wanted to know what I was dealing with before I even thought about making a offer??? I was thinking around 1500$$$ and maybe 1800 max??? I know just enough about these Gibson banjos to get myself in trouble!??

lcherney - Posted - 05/13/2022:  09:06:41


For less than $3000, you can buy an RB-250 Mastertone. Check around!.

rexhunt - Posted - 05/15/2022:  11:07:01


About a year ago I was in my local music store and saw what I first thought was an RB-100 that was way overpriced at three grand until I picked it up. It had a Yates tone ring installed. It was killer and was worth the price. 



Rex

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