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Bill Rogers - Posted - 03/22/2022:  02:04:32


The two I’m thinking of are Eagles and Dixie Chicks—both of which commonly have “the” incorrectly placed before their names. I assume there are others with “the” or some other word commonly and incorrectly added to the band’s name. Know of any?

banjoy - Posted - 03/22/2022:  03:13:57


I can think of one that is the opposite, where "The" is often dropped but is actually part of "The Beatles" band name.

And, interestingly, Dixie Chicks dropped "Dixie" from their band name and added "The" so they are now called "The Chicks."

But I agree with your observation ... and the same goes for "Band" sometimes tagged onto the end where it never belonged.

GrahamHawker - Posted - 03/22/2022:  03:45:42


Ramones. Not The Ramones. Luckily no one does The The The.

banjoy - Posted - 03/22/2022:  03:50:27


Makes me think "The Band" was way ahead of its time ... wink


Edited by - banjoy on 03/22/2022 03:50:43

250gibson - Posted - 03/22/2022:  07:29:58


Talking Heads. Not The Talking Heads

RB3 - Posted - 03/22/2022:  13:27:04


It works the other way too. When J.D. Crowe and The New South used to appear on Woodsongs, the granola eatin', folk singer host insisted upon referring to them as J.D. Crowe and New South. J.D. appeared on the show several times, and the host and J.D. both lived in the same town. I think that the host of a show has a responsibility to at least get the correct names of their guests.

Owen - Posted - 03/22/2022:  14:07:40


Is the mistake capitalizing The word the?  Jets beat Blackhawks last nite?   The Jets beat the Blackhawks last nite?   And to answer the OP question... no [aside from those already mentioned].   But, fwiw, apparently Russia did not invade the Ukraine.  I'm not sure where [the?] Canada or [the?] United Kingdom stand on the matter.   sad

chuckv97 - Posted - 03/22/2022:  16:00:29


Guess Who,, not The Guess Who

Owen - Posted - 03/22/2022:  17:20:14


I think I'm gonna get confused .... theguesswho.com/   



However, without "looking it up," [i.e. I could be wrong] I  think Ballpark in Arlington, Texas was known as The Ballpark in Arlington.   cheeky


Edited by - Owen on 03/22/2022 17:27:17

chuckv97 - Posted - 03/22/2022:  17:28:06


Hmm,, I guess (!) it ain’t so, what I posted

csrat - Posted - 03/22/2022:  18:11:57


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Hmm,, I guess (!) it ain’t so, what I posted






I, for one, forgive you.



Wait ...



I, the for one, forgive you.

J e f f - Posted - 03/22/2022:  18:25:36


From the Eagles website: "The Eagles Announce 2022 Hotel California Extended Tour Dates"



'Sup with that?

banjoy - Posted - 03/22/2022:  18:29:11


quote:

Originally posted by J e f f

From the Eagles website: "The Eagles Announce 2022 Hotel California Extended Tour Dates"



'Sup with that?






"The" is capitalized because it starts a new sentence.

250gibson - Posted - 03/22/2022:  21:04:24


quote:

Originally posted by Owen

Is the mistake capitalizing The word the?  Jets beat Blackhawks last nite?   The Jets beat the Blackhawks last nite?   And to answer the OP question... no [aside from those already mentioned].   But, fwiw, apparently Russia did not invade the Ukraine.  I'm not sure where [the?] Canada or [the?] United Kingdom stand on the matter.   sad






Ukraine is proper without the article just like Canada, Mexico, Spain. The definite article, the, is needed when the proper name contains a common noun so it must be defined. The United Kingdom, The United States, The People's republic of China.  Republic, states and kingdom are common nouns.  In the (Chicago) Blackhawks, blackhawks is a common noun. If the article is part of the proper name then it does not need to be used twice (like He was in the band The Guess Who, or he was The Beatles drummer) but if it is not part of the proper name it must be added as a definitive and not capitalized. 

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 03/22/2022:  21:18:47


Carpenters

phb - Posted - 03/23/2022:  02:49:49


quote:

Originally posted by 250gibson

 


Ukraine is proper without the article just like Canada, Mexico, Spain. The definite article, the, is needed when the proper name contains a common noun so it must be defined.




I wonder whether this is a relatively new trend or rule. English major Paul Simon wrote some lyrics in the late 80s that read "a cooling system burned out in the Ukraine". In German we use a lot of definite articles with country names but due to the strong influence of the English language more and more of those get dropped. While it used to be "der Irak" and "der Iran", the article now is mostly omitted (which drives me nuts). Other languages also seem to put definite articles for some countries but not for others ("El Salvador", "el Perú" but "Puerto Rico").



 




The United Kingdom, The United States, The People's republic of China.  Republic, states and kingdom are common nouns. 






What if a country name comprises a common noun but not one of the English language but of that country's language? 



 

Owen - Posted - 03/23/2022:  07:18:58


... Anybody think these guys might have any interest in what is/isn't correct?



Ready, Set, Ringo: The Unique Sound of Ringo Starr



 


Edited by - Owen on 03/23/2022 07:20:20

Owen - Posted - 03/23/2022:  08:05:39


Frank, I offer up a Canadian "sorry" ......... apparently I'm not yet fully awake this a.m. [at least I hope it's not a permanent condition].

banjoy - Posted - 03/23/2022:  08:11:31


quote:

Originally posted by Owen

Frank, I offer up a Canadian "sorry" ......... apparently I'm not yet fully awake this a.m. [at least I hope it's not a permanent condition].






Responding with an American fuggedaboutit. No harm no foul. From my viewpoint, great minds think alike. Scary.

BanjoLink - Posted - 03/23/2022:  13:49:07


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Hmm,, I guess (!) it ain’t so, what I posted






I'll tell you one thing Chuck, I love The Randy Bachman who I think played with Who!

chuckv97 - Posted - 03/23/2022:  14:31:32


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Hmm,, I guess (!) it ain’t so, what I posted






I'll tell you one thing Chuck, I love The Randy Bachman who I think played with Who!






Hey, me too,,, he be a good Winnipeg boy. 

BanjoLink - Posted - 03/23/2022:  19:10:05


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Hmm,, I guess (!) it ain’t so, what I posted






I'll tell you one thing Chuck, I love The Randy Bachman who I think played with Who!






Hey, me too,,, he be a good Winnipeg boy. 






You need to hear his cd made several years ago when he explained the story behind some of his most popular hits.

banjopickingman - Posted - 03/23/2022:  19:48:05


Daryl Hall & John Oates. They hated being called "Hall & Oates".

pianojuggler - Posted - 03/23/2022:  19:59:14


quote:

Originally posted by banjopickingman

Daryl Hall & John Oates. They hated being called "Hall & Oates".






For years, I wasn't sure if they were Holland Oats or Haulin' Oats.



I blame this (and many mondegreens and other things) on AM radio.

5B-Ranch - Posted - 03/23/2022:  20:38:30


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Guess Who,, not The Guess Who






Who?....No ?....The Who?... No?....I give up. 

our little band was Blue Smoke no the needed.


Edited by - 5B-Ranch on 03/23/2022 20:39:59

WVDreamin - Posted - 03/23/2022:  21:01:59


I thought adding "the" to a band's name was a British thing. I noticed announcers on their music TV shows would add it to the name as they announced an American band, like "ladies and gentlemen, the Jefferson Airplane!"

Good Buddy - Posted - 03/23/2022:  22:07:13


Bill Monroe and his Blue Grass Boys, not Bill Monroe and his Bluegrass Boys. I guess everyone here knows this though.

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