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BanjoLink - Posted - 01/21/2022:  21:17:58


My new "Dessert Warrior" ......Boker switchblade ...... scary pink scales with baby blue blade!




chuckv97 - Posted - 01/21/2022:  22:56:24


Takes a secure man to carry a pink knife……

dat - Posted - 01/22/2022:  00:21:03


Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case

figmo59 - Posted - 01/22/2022:  05:29:00


quote:

Originally posted by dat

Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case






Jack Daniels....?

jason999 - Posted - 01/22/2022:  06:01:26


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

My new "Dessert Warrior" ......Boker switchblade ...... scary pink scales with baby blue blade!






Dessert instead of desert. Thats some crazy business.



It's horrific! LOL

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/22/2022:  06:57:49


quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

My new "Dessert Warrior" ......Boker switchblade ...... scary pink scales with baby blue blade!






Dessert instead of desert. Thats some crazy business.



It's horrific! LOL






Yeah ..... funny story behind them.  There were so many people ordering the "Desert Warrior" but spelling them "Dessert", Boker thought they would just go ahead and make the "Dessert Warrior".  The "Dessert Warrior" became so popular that none of the dealers could keep them in stock.  My son found one for my Christmas present.

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/22/2022:  06:59:53


quote:

Originally posted by dat

Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case






Well Daniel ..... maybe right 40 years ago, but the newer Cases, since the 70's are OK knives, but certainly far from the best.

jason999 - Posted - 01/22/2022:  07:03:45


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

My new "Dessert Warrior" ......Boker switchblade ...... scary pink scales with baby blue blade!






Dessert instead of desert. Thats some crazy business.



It's horrific! LOL






Yeah ..... funny story behind them.  There were so many people ordering the "Desert Warrior" but spelling them "Dessert", Boker thought they would just go ahead and make the "Dessert Warrior".  The "Dessert Warrior" became so popular that none of the dealers could keep them in stock.  My son found one for my Christmas present.






Haha! I looked them up and they were oos. I'll bet you are the only guy on your block carrying one of those! 

jason999 - Posted - 01/22/2022:  07:04:55


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by dat

Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case






Well Daniel ..... maybe right 40 years ago, but the newer Cases, since the 70's are OK knives, but certainly far from the best.






Watch it Johnny B!



You were pushing the limits by posting a pink knife, but you're crossing the line now...


Edited by - jason999 on 01/22/2022 07:05:58

Joel Hooks - Posted - 01/22/2022:  07:14:46


Sorry, but that is a “Automatic Knife” or “Safety Automatic” (not that S word).

I have a black handle Kalashnikov that I carry when I am not leaving New Hampshire. It is a nice knife.

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/22/2022:  07:18:22


quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by dat

Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case






Well Daniel ..... maybe right 40 years ago, but the newer Cases, since the 70's are OK knives, but certainly far from the best.






Watch it Johnny B!



You were pushing the limits by posting a pink knife, but you're crossing the line now...






I don't know Jason!smiley  I probably have close to a hundred Case knives, so I have some experience with their timeline.  After Case was bought by American Brands and then seemed to change ownership every few (exaggeration) years, their quality started to wain.  It seemed they were more interested in making "collector" knives than just good ordinary working knives.  They are still good knives, just no my choice for a working knife!



PS:  NO plans to carry the pink knife except as maybe a spoof!

jason999 - Posted - 01/22/2022:  08:16:02


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by dat

Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case






Well Daniel ..... maybe right 40 years ago, but the newer Cases, since the 70's are OK knives, but certainly far from the best.






Watch it Johnny B!



You were pushing the limits by posting a pink knife, but you're crossing the line now...






I don't know Jason!smiley  I probably have close to a hundred Case knives, so I have some experience with their timeline.  After Case was bought by American Brands and then seemed to change ownership every few (exaggeration) years, their quality started to wain.  It seemed they were more interested in making "collector" knives than just good ordinary working knives.  They are still good knives, just no my choice for a working knife!



PS:  NO plans to carry the pink knife except as maybe a spoof!






Have you ever had a Rough Rider knife? They make great Case copies. I use them as working knives more than Case brand.



High quality Case looking knives for $10-$15 with a lifetime warranty. 



I've collected on their warranty a couple of times with no issue.

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/22/2022:  08:31:30


quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by dat

Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case






Well Daniel ..... maybe right 40 years ago, but the newer Cases, since the 70's are OK knives, but certainly far from the best.






Watch it Johnny B!



You were pushing the limits by posting a pink knife, but you're crossing the line now...






I don't know Jason!smiley  I probably have close to a hundred Case knives, so I have some experience with their timeline.  After Case was bought by American Brands and then seemed to change ownership every few (exaggeration) years, their quality started to wain.  It seemed they were more interested in making "collector" knives than just good ordinary working knives.  They are still good knives, just no my choice for a working knife!



PS:  NO plans to carry the pink knife except as maybe a spoof!






Have you ever had a Rough Rider knife? They make great Case copies. I use them as working knives more than Case brand.



High quality Case looking knives for $10-$15 with a lifetime warranty. 



I've collected on their warranty a couple of times with no issue.






Haven't seen them.  At that price they are probably made over seas .... China probably.  There are also some knock-off Microtech or Protech knives made overseas, but I wouldn't buy one.  I carry a ZT (Zero Tolerance) quick opener (not a switchblade) which does everything I need it for.  At some point I may need multiple blades, but a one blade works fine for me.  It is funny, but when I look at old used knives, quite often only one blade has ever been used extensively, so regardles sof how many it has there is always a "go to" favorite blade.

steve davis - Posted - 01/22/2022:  09:56:33


quote:

Originally posted by dat

Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case






I've never liked Case knives.Too bulky and too heavy.Feels like I'm carrying around an adjustable wrench in my pocket.



Gramp's go to knife for 50 years was a $1.25 Kamp King.He did everything with that jack knife,from denutting a halibut to shucking hundreds of bucketfuls of clams,scallops and hundreds of miles of rope cutting.


Edited by - steve davis on 01/22/2022 09:58:32

jason999 - Posted - 01/22/2022:  10:38:31


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by dat

Takes a secure man to carry anything other than a Case






Well Daniel ..... maybe right 40 years ago, but the newer Cases, since the 70's are OK knives, but certainly far from the best.






Watch it Johnny B!



You were pushing the limits by posting a pink knife, but you're crossing the line now...






I don't know Jason!smiley  I probably have close to a hundred Case knives, so I have some experience with their timeline.  After Case was bought by American Brands and then seemed to change ownership every few (exaggeration) years, their quality started to wain.  It seemed they were more interested in making "collector" knives than just good ordinary working knives.  They are still good knives, just no my choice for a working knife!



PS:  NO plans to carry the pink knife except as maybe a spoof!






Have you ever had a Rough Rider knife? They make great Case copies. I use them as working knives more than Case brand.



High quality Case looking knives for $10-$15 with a lifetime warranty. 



I've collected on their warranty a couple of times with no issue.






Haven't seen them.  At that price they are probably made over seas .... China probably.  There are also some knock-off Microtech or Protech knives made overseas, but I wouldn't buy one.  I carry a ZT (Zero Tolerance) quick opener (not a switchblade) which does everything I need it for.  At some point I may need multiple blades, but a one blade works fine for me.  It is funny, but when I look at old used knives, quite often only one blade has ever been used extensively, so regardles sof how many it has there is always a "go to" favorite blade.






Yes, they are made in China but they are excellent.  I buy them from Smokey Mountain Knife Works, but they have them on ebay and Amazon.



Look them up and try one.  I don't think you'll be disappointed. 



 

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/22/2022:  10:39:35


quote:

Originally posted by Joel Hooks

Sorry, but that is a “Automatic Knife” or “Safety Automatic” (not that S word).



I have a black handle Kalashnikov that I carry when I am not leaving New Hampshire. It is a nice knife.






?? Oops ...... forgot ...... I grew up in the 50's and 60's!



 

CW Spook - Posted - 01/23/2022:  07:51:34


Somewhere around here I have an old automatic I built from a kit, back in the day when assembled one weren't legally available. It looks like one of the old-style S-word knives. Otherwise all I've got are a couple of Kershaw assisted-openers, but I find I can deploy my CRKT knives with the Carson flipper every bit as fast. The CRKT M-16 Iraqi Freedom model is the one currently clipped to my pocket.

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/23/2022:  20:57:27


quote:

Originally posted by CW Spook

Somewhere around here I have an old automatic I built from a kit, back in the day when assembled one weren't legally available. It looks like one of the old-style S-word knives. Otherwise all I've got are a couple of Kershaw assisted-openers, but I find I can deploy my CRKT knives with the Carson flipper every bit as fast. The CRKT M-16 Iraqi Freedom model is the one currently clipped to my pocket.






Yep ..... I can open my ZT just about as fast as an automatic too.  CRKT are pretty good knives for Asian made product and the company is excellent in replacing or fixing them if anything goes wrong.

Wet Spaniel - Posted - 01/24/2022:  02:01:49


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

My new "Dessert Warrior" ......Boker switchblade ...... scary pink scales with baby blue blade!






Now that's a Bobby dazzler!



I love the tongue in cheek reason for the name smiley.  I sometimes visit a pigeon hunting forum and it's amazing how many pigeon shooters struggle with spelling their dedicated prey correctly.

Banjonewguy - Posted - 01/24/2022:  03:14:03


quote:

Originally posted by CW Spook

Somewhere around here I have an old automatic I built from a kit, back in the day when assembled one weren't legally available. It looks like one of the old-style S-word knives. Otherwise all I've got are a couple of Kershaw assisted-openers, but I find I can deploy my CRKT knives with the Carson flipper every bit as fast. The CRKT M-16 Iraqi Freedom model is the one currently clipped to my pocket.






I have one of those as well. I got it at the BX on clearance for $20. I was going to buy several of them at that price and give them to my guys at work but they had a limit. It's a little big, but I really like it and, like you said, I can open it faster than the Boker auto I just bought.

rinemb - Posted - 01/24/2022:  07:37:56


Speaking of auto openers, again. I have been carrying my Gerber 06 for about a month or so. It is a beast for sure.
I also took it apart and installed a snappier spring. I do not recommend doing this, with the right tools, more than two hands, and a heap of patience. I did not think I was ever going to get it reassembled. My fingers are still numb. Yes, it does open with a “get your attention” snap now.
Below is my practical tool I carry as well. Brad



 

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/24/2022:  09:02:42


quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

Speaking of auto openers, again. I have been carrying my Gerber 06 for about a month or so. It is a beast for sure.

I also took it apart and installed a snappier spring. I do not recommend doing this, with the right tools, more than two hands, and a heap of patience. I did not think I was ever going to get it reassembled. My fingers are still numb. Yes, it does open with a “get your attention” snap now.

Below is my practical tool I carry as well. Brad






I've never "played" with  Gerber automatic, but would have thought it would have had plenty of snap.  Is your knife made in the US?  A number of years ago, maybe thirty or so, Gerber started making a lot of their knives in Japan and do not know where the bulk of their knives are made now.

rinemb - Posted - 01/24/2022:  09:12:33


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

Speaking of auto openers, again. I have been carrying my Gerber 06 for about a month or so. It is a beast for sure.

I also took it apart and installed a snappier spring. I do not recommend doing this, with the right tools, more than two hands, and a heap of patience. I did not think I was ever going to get it reassembled. My fingers are still numb. Yes, it does open with a “get your attention” snap now.

Below is my practical tool I carry as well. Brad






I've never "played" with  Gerber automatic, but would have thought it would have had plenty of snap.  Is your knife made in the US?  A number of years ago, maybe thirty or so, Gerber started making a lot of their knives in Japan and do not know where the bulk of their knives are made now.






Yes, I think it is made in USA.  This knife is made in Oregon. ;-)   From what I read, they are known to have a factory spring that opens with not much  snap.  Perhaps by design, so it opens more quietly etc?  So, enough so, that a knife supply company makes springs to open this knife and others with more omph.  I even watched the "how to" vids on Youtube.  If I made a vid, I would even do it differently than the ones I watched.  A real PIA, at least first time.  All the pins, posts, spring, main bushing and post are only held in place by the sandwiching of the handle.  So you have to hold the with a lot of pressure the blade on the spring, and keep everything in place while doing the sandwiching.  (I wonder how they do it the factory)  Any tool I considered for clamping would be in the way.  But, I did it!    Brad

rinemb - Posted - 01/24/2022:  09:17:26


This tool made by Klein is built like a tank! It will take all the torquing one can bear. Especially needed if the knife is put back together with loctite goo. Brad


Edited by - rinemb on 01/24/2022 09:19:41



 

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/24/2022:  11:50:11


quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

Speaking of auto openers, again. I have been carrying my Gerber 06 for about a month or so. It is a beast for sure.

I also took it apart and installed a snappier spring. I do not recommend doing this, with the right tools, more than two hands, and a heap of patience. I did not think I was ever going to get it reassembled. My fingers are still numb. Yes, it does open with a “get your attention” snap now.

Below is my practical tool I carry as well. Brad






I've never "played" with  Gerber automatic, but would have thought it would have had plenty of snap.  Is your knife made in the US?  A number of years ago, maybe thirty or so, Gerber started making a lot of their knives in Japan and do not know where the bulk of their knives are made now.






Yes, I think it is made in USA.  This knife is made in Oregon. ;-)   From what I read, they are known to have a factory spring that opens with not much  snap.  Perhaps by design, so it opens more quietly etc?  So, enough so, that a knife supply company makes springs to open this knife and others with more omph.  I even watched the "how to" vids on Youtube.  If I made a vid, I would even do it differently than the ones I watched.  A real PIA, at least first time.  All the pins, posts, spring, main bushing and post are only held in place by the sandwiching of the handle.  So you have to hold the with a lot of pressure the blade on the spring, and keep everything in place while doing the sandwiching.  (I wonder how they do it the factory)  Any tool I considered for clamping would be in the way.  But, I did it!    Brad






Thanks Brad.  I wondered because in the late 80's I was in a wedding and got a pearl handled Gerber lockback for a gift.  I still have it.  It has Portland Oregon stamped on one side of the tang and Made in Japan (or just Japan) stamped on the other side.  In fairly recent years I know some of their knives were made in China, but Pretty sure yours would be US made.  If it wasn't I think it would have to have "China" stamped om it somewhere.



Sounds like a real bear trying to put a new spring in your automatic.  I have never done it and don't plan to!

rinemb - Posted - 01/24/2022:  12:10:50


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

Speaking of auto openers, again. I have been carrying my Gerber 06 for about a month or so. It is a beast for sure.

I also took it apart and installed a snappier spring. I do not recommend doing this, with the right tools, more than two hands, and a heap of patience. I did not think I was ever going to get it reassembled. My fingers are still numb. Yes, it does open with a “get your attention” snap now.

Below is my practical tool I carry as well. Brad






I've never "played" with  Gerber automatic, but would have thought it would have had plenty of snap.  Is your knife made in the US?  A number of years ago, maybe thirty or so, Gerber started making a lot of their knives in Japan and do not know where the bulk of their knives are made now.






Yes, I think it is made in USA.  This knife is made in Oregon. ;-)   From what I read, they are known to have a factory spring that opens with not much  snap.  Perhaps by design, so it opens more quietly etc?  So, enough so, that a knife supply company makes springs to open this knife and others with more omph.  I even watched the "how to" vids on Youtube.  If I made a vid, I would even do it differently than the ones I watched.  A real PIA, at least first time.  All the pins, posts, spring, main bushing and post are only held in place by the sandwiching of the handle.  So you have to hold the with a lot of pressure the blade on the spring, and keep everything in place while doing the sandwiching.  (I wonder how they do it the factory)  Any tool I considered for clamping would be in the way.  But, I did it!    Brad






Thanks Brad.  I wondered because in the late 80's I was in a wedding and got a pearl handled Gerber lockback for a gift.  I still have it.  It has Portland Oregon stamped on one side of the tang and Made in Japan (or just Japan) stamped on the other side.  In fairly recent years I know some of their knives were made in China, but Pretty sure yours would be US made.  If it wasn't I think it would have to have "China" stamped om it somewhere.



Sounds like a real bear trying to put a new spring in your automatic.  I have never done it and don't plan to!






While this knife seems built for long-term active duty use,  seems anymore that if "parts" are from China, and and the product is "assembled" in USA, they can claim "Made in USA".  Not sure what the actually laws about that are?  Brad 

Joel Hooks - Posted - 01/24/2022:  12:50:11


quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by rinemb

Speaking of auto openers, again. I have been carrying my Gerber 06 for about a month or so. It is a beast for sure.

I also took it apart and installed a snappier spring. I do not recommend doing this, with the right tools, more than two hands, and a heap of patience. I did not think I was ever going to get it reassembled. My fingers are still numb. Yes, it does open with a “get your attention” snap now.

Below is my practical tool I carry as well. Brad






I've never "played" with  Gerber automatic, but would have thought it would have had plenty of snap.  Is your knife made in the US?  A number of years ago, maybe thirty or so, Gerber started making a lot of their knives in Japan and do not know where the bulk of their knives are made now.






Yes, I think it is made in USA.  This knife is made in Oregon. ;-)   From what I read, they are known to have a factory spring that opens with not much  snap.  Perhaps by design, so it opens more quietly etc?  So, enough so, that a knife supply company makes springs to open this knife and others with more omph.  I even watched the "how to" vids on Youtube.  If I made a vid, I would even do it differently than the ones I watched.  A real PIA, at least first time.  All the pins, posts, spring, main bushing and post are only held in place by the sandwiching of the handle.  So you have to hold the with a lot of pressure the blade on the spring, and keep everything in place while doing the sandwiching.  (I wonder how they do it the factory)  Any tool I considered for clamping would be in the way.  But, I did it!    Brad






Thanks Brad.  I wondered because in the late 80's I was in a wedding and got a pearl handled Gerber lockback for a gift.  I still have it.  It has Portland Oregon stamped on one side of the tang and Made in Japan (or just Japan) stamped on the other side.  In fairly recent years I know some of their knives were made in China, but Pretty sure yours would be US made.  If it wasn't I think it would have to have "China" stamped om it somewhere.



Sounds like a real bear trying to put a new spring in your automatic.  I have never done it and don't plan to!






While this knife seems built for long-term active duty use,  seems anymore that if "parts" are from China, and and the product is "assembled" in USA, they can claim "Made in USA".  Not sure what the actually laws about that are?  Brad 






The claim of "Made in USA" is tightly regulated and the requirements are spelled out in great detail.  It is also something that the FTC enforces, it is pretty bad if a company gets caught with a false claim.



There are different levels of claims called "qualified claims".  The FTC makes it easy for manufacturers to know exactly what statement to make. An example of this would be "Assembled in the USA from imported parts".



A nice trick that companies like Apple use is "Designed in the USA" (or more specifically "Designed in California").  While legal, I can't help but think it is used to deceive.



 



Everything you need to know can be found here...



ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-c...-standard



 



 

steve davis - Posted - 01/24/2022:  13:50:10


What's so important about deploying a knife quickly?

dat - Posted - 01/24/2022:  14:13:12


quote:

Originally posted by steve davis

What's so important about deploying a knife quickly?






One time years ago we were in a boat easing through the back water brush going to our duck hunting spot, i was in the front of the boat, going through the thick brush i got snagged by a trot line someone had left and the hooks were a little over a foot out of the water, anyway, a hook in the arm and the boat moving and the line tied off with a pretty strong cord, the driver of the boat had an auto knife and he had the reaction time and saw what happened, he had the knife out and line cut before i got dragged out, still have a pretty good scar, but im glad he had a knife he could open and use quickly 


Edited by - dat on 01/24/2022 14:14:10

BanjoLink - Posted - 01/24/2022:  15:48:50


quote:

Originally posted by steve davis

What's so important about deploying a knife quickly?






Dat gave a good example, but it is not so much as being able to open it fast as it it is to open it with one hand.  For a one armed or one handed person, it is about impossible to open a non-automatic knife.  Of course, that's not a problem for most of us.  I have reached in my back pocket many times to get and open my knife while holding something in my left hand to cut.  Sometimes I could have put the item to be cut down but others I couldn't or it was easier not to.  People have different tastes.

rinemb - Posted - 01/25/2022:  09:23:24


And, if you every day carry a sheath knife, you get the same stares as with a holstered pistol. But that would deploy one-handed quickly, eh. Brad

steve davis - Posted - 01/25/2022:  14:55:25


I never left the harbor without a good knife in my pocket for 50 years.
The quick knife was always down near the stern up under the washboard for a last ditch solution to a boat in gear after the trap is thrown overboard and the rope is caught around your ankle.
The last ditch knife was usually an 8" wooden handle fixed blade Dexter slid into a couple of bungi cord straps.

banjo bill-e - Posted - 01/25/2022:  15:28:02


---"And, if you every day carry a sheath knife, you get the same stares as with a holstered pistol. ---"

A holstered pistol does not bother me at all, I've seen that on civilians often. But the mohawked tattooed punk wearing a 12" "survival" knife in a sheath on his thigh, who I encountered in an alley sure got my attention. The fact that he was cursing angrily at the wall did not help matters at all. I was most happy that I did not seem to even exist in his private world.

DC5 - Posted - 01/25/2022:  16:08:28


quote:

Originally posted by BanjoLink

quote:

Originally posted by steve davis

What's so important about deploying a knife quickly?






Dat gave a good example, but it is not so much as being able to open it fast as it it is to open it with one hand.  For a one armed or one handed person, it is about impossible to open a non-automatic knife.  Of course, that's not a problem for most of us.  I have reached in my back pocket many times to get and open my knife while holding something in my left hand to cut.  Sometimes I could have put the item to be cut down but others I couldn't or it was easier not to.  People have different tastes.






I've had similar situations when I worked on the dairy farm, there I carried two knives, pocket knife similar to the boy scout knife, and a sheath knife for quick one hand access.  There were many times that you needed one hand access to the knife.  Fortunately for me the times I needed it my left hand was the one holding something.  The sheath knife was on my right hip, and the pocket knife in my back right pocket.   I had an uncle who lost the use of his left arm in an accident.  Auto knives were illegal so he loosened the spring on a knife to allow him to flick it open with one hand. 

1935tb-11 - Posted - 01/26/2022:  06:39:45


i have one easy open usa made knife,, i got like new used for 80 bucks ,,its a bench made bugout 535 ,,it has a blue handle and opens easy for me left handed. most of my usa made knives are old ,,bucks,,gerbers,, case,,old timers ,,stuff like that.

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