Banjo Hangout Logo
Banjo Hangout Logo

Premier Sponsors

763
Banjo Lovers Online


Discussion Forum

Hide these ads: join the Players Union!

 All Forums
 Other Banjo-Related Topics
 Banjo Building, Setup, and Repair
 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Drum dials?


Please note this is an archived topic, so it is locked and unable to be replied to. You may, however, start a new topic and refer to this topic with a link: http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/380576

1xsculler - Posted - 01/15/2022:  22:08:53


Useful, accurate?

PaulRF - Posted - 01/15/2022:  23:11:29


I found using one very helpful and there are a few videos on youtube on using one. 



Paul

PaulRF - Posted - 01/15/2022:  23:38:11


MoJoBanjo - Posted - 01/16/2022:  02:47:45


Yes!!! Highly recommend.

jason999 - Posted - 01/16/2022:  04:08:03


quote:

Originally posted by 1xsculler

Useful, accurate?






You can use one to get your head tension very even all the way around.  It is absolutely amazing the difference that will make. 

Eric A - Posted - 01/16/2022:  04:42:49


I've had one for a couple years and I would never go without again.

RB3 - Posted - 01/16/2022:  06:43:01


Yes and Yes.

Realbluegrassfan - Posted - 01/16/2022:  06:57:56


I will begin by saying I am a novice. I bought one of the drum dials just to check the head tension on my banjos. With no adjustment to the banjos on my part I found that each time I checked the reading at a particular hook I would get a different reading. I read the instructions, watched the videos, checked the dial, paced the dial I the same spot each time and still had the same issue.

stelldeergibber - Posted - 01/16/2022:  06:59:59


Yes, I frankly don't think anyone's ear is as accurate as a Drum Dial.

Dave1climber - Posted - 01/16/2022:  08:22:19


Use your hearing to "tune" the head to the sound you like. Use the drum dial to even it out. Record the reading to maintain the head and a starting point should you replace the head.

TN Time - Posted - 01/16/2022:  08:35:57


I love my drum dial. I would never be without it.
Robert

jason999 - Posted - 01/16/2022:  08:50:38


quote:

Originally posted by Realbluegrassfan

I will begin by saying I am a novice. I bought one of the drum dials just to check the head tension on my banjos. With no adjustment to the banjos on my part I found that each time I checked the reading at a particular hook I would get a different reading. I read the instructions, watched the videos, checked the dial, paced the dial I the same spot each time and still had the same issue.






sentence. You buy the population drum dial that most people seem to use for around $50?



Did you gently sit the drum dial on the head and then let go of the drum dial before reading it?



Did you sit the drum dial into position the same way each time?



After you calibrate the DD to 0, try picking it up and sitting it down several times. Did it read 0 each time?

Old Hickory - Posted - 01/16/2022:  09:15:33


quote:

Originally posted by 1xsculler

Useful, accurate?






Extremely.



Suppose you have your banjo head adjusted to where you like the sound of your banjo.



Two questions:



How would you adjust a new head to the exact same tightness?



Even before needing to do that, how do you know that your current head is adjusted to even tension all around the circumference?



To accomplish both of those, you need a way to measure. There are some other ways to measure (tap-tuning to a note, Bill Palmer's tapping to resonance and volume, coin and stick, Steve Davis gauge, measuring the height of the tension hoop above the head, eyeballing the amount of exposed hook face). I've tried all but one of these (Davis gauge). Drum Dial beats them all, as far as I'm concerned.



Final comment: DrumDial is a measuring tool, not a prescriptive device. There is no DrumDial number known in advance to be right for your banjo or to produce the sound you want. The point of DrumDial is to help you get the head tensioned evenly all around and to provide a repeatable reference so you keep the head at that tension or tighten a new one to it.



Enjoy.

Realbluegrassfan - Posted - 01/16/2022:  18:40:03


quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by Realbluegrassfan

I will begin by saying I am a novice. I bought one of the drum dials just to check the head tension on my banjos. With no adjustment to the banjos on my part I found that each time I checked the reading at a particular hook I would get a different reading. I read the instructions, watched the videos, checked the dial, paced the dial I the same spot each time and still had the same issue.






sentence. You buy the population drum dial that most people seem to use for around $50?



Did you gently sit the drum dial on the head and then let go of the drum dial before reading it?



Did you sit the drum dial into position the same way each time?



After you calibrate the DD to 0, try picking it up and sitting it down several times. Did it read 0 each time?






After making my original post I suppose I needed to state that I followed all the instructions on all of the items I read.  The dial also left marks on the heads.  

jason999 - Posted - 01/16/2022:  18:49:40


quote:

Originally posted by Realbluegrassfan

quote:

Originally posted by jason999

quote:

Originally posted by Realbluegrassfan

I will begin by saying I am a novice. I bought one of the drum dials just to check the head tension on my banjos. With no adjustment to the banjos on my part I found that each time I checked the reading at a particular hook I would get a different reading. I read the instructions, watched the videos, checked the dial, paced the dial I the same spot each time and still had the same issue.






sentence. You buy the population drum dial that most people seem to use for around $50?



Did you gently sit the drum dial on the head and then let go of the drum dial before reading it?



Did you sit the drum dial into position the same way each time?



After you calibrate the DD to 0, try picking it up and sitting it down several times. Did it read 0 each time?






After making my original post I suppose I needed to state that I followed all the instructions on all of the items I read.  The dial also left marks on the heads.  






The only way that I could see it leaving marks on your head is if you sat it down and then drug it around the head without picking it up.



I've had great success with the drumdial. I was asking questions so that maybe we could discover the problem and get you up and going.

LouZee Picker - Posted - 01/16/2022:  19:14:05


Yes, if you drag the drum dial across the head to get different readings it WILL leave marks on the head. You have to pick it up & and reposition it after each reading. And they work well if you know how to use them. smiley



Brian

RB3 - Posted - 01/17/2022:  07:13:04


The only complaint I have with the Drum Dial is that the manufacturer does not include a device that provides a known, flat, calibration surface. Accordingly, I went to the craft department of my local Hobby Lobby and bought a 3" round, glass disk that works perfectly for the calibration process. It would add very little to the cost of the Drum Dial to include some such similar device with the product.

jason999 - Posted - 01/17/2022:  08:20:20


quote:

Originally posted by RB3

The only complaint I have with the Drum Dial is that the manufacturer does not include a device that provides a known, flat, calibration surface. Accordingly, I went to the craft department of my local Hobby Lobby and bought a 3" round, glass disk that works perfectly for the calibration process. It would add very little to the cost of the Drum Dial to include some such similar device with the product.






When I first looked around, I saw several mirrors and pieces of glass but they were all vertical. 



Then I saw our marble countertop. That's what I use



Later I thought that I could use a hand held mirror from our bathroom or I guess I could turn over a cooking pot and use the bottom.



Picture frames also have flat glass. 

Old Hickory - Posted - 01/17/2022:  08:57:52


I calibrate my DrumDial on the glass bed of my home copier-scanner-printer.



Sometimes on the Corian kitchen counter. I'd hope that would hard enough.



Something else I have in good supply are 4-inch glazed white wall tiles from our last bathroom remodel. I bet that would work. You can buy a single white 4x4 tile at Home Depot for 11 cents.

LouZee Picker - Posted - 01/18/2022:  05:31:54


The digital drum dial that I have has a hard plastic carrying case that has a built in 2 and a half inch piece of glass built into the case. most times at home I just use our kitchen table glass top anyway.

Brian

Hide these ads: join the Players Union!

Hangout Network Help

View All Topics  |  View Categories

6.201172E-02