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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Banjo Identification for repair


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jimbobajob - Posted - 11/11/2021:  09:20:33


Afternoon,

A friend gave me a banjo a few years ago, with the peghead snapped off.

I'd like to have a crack at repairing it.

I wonder if anyne could help in identifying the banjo, so I can have a look at what the original peghead should look like?

Disclaimer: I dn't know a great deal about banjos!

Many thanks.

jimbobajob - Posted - 11/11/2021:  09:24:17


Oh, the photos didn't upload the first time.

Here it is.




mike gregory - Posted - 11/11/2021:  09:36:35


Generic "Bottle Cap" banjo, made in Asia by the hundreds of thousands.

No need to re-create any specific shape.

Why not shape i like your HAND, so you can tell them it's a HAND MADE banjo?


mike gregory - Posted - 11/11/2021:  09:41:48


Also, a photo of the snapped part might help us advise as how to best repair.



 



"Bottle Cap" refers to the body's resemblance to the classic soft-drink caps, because of the way the flange is cast.



jimbobajob - Posted - 11/11/2021:  09:43:53


Excellent thank you.

I might just make something like that then!

jimbobajob - Posted - 11/11/2021:  09:48:01


Oh right, I suppose it does look like an 'unnatural black coloured liquid sugar drink' cap! Interesting.

I'll take a photo of the snapped end when I'm back down t'shed.

Thanks.

mike gregory - Posted - 11/11/2021:  09:58:41


Glad to see another person with an interest in the beloved BANJO!

Standard advice to newcomers:

There's a spot on your home page where you can tell us your approximate location.
(In my case, I made up "Sonova Beach", cuz it sounds like cussing, but added "near Mequon", because Mequon is easy to find, and only a few miles away. If anybody WANTS to visit me, I'll give them the real name.)
Before Sonova Beach, I said "Slippsen Falls"

So, approximately WHERE are you?

This may come in handy, if any OutHanger nearby offers to physically examine the banjo, and suggest a good way to repair it.

jimbobajob - Posted - 11/11/2021:  10:26:26


To be honest, I'm happy just treating the repair as a nice wee project.

I didn't want to start gashing about with it if it was some ultra-rare piece although I was fairly certain it wasn't, the 'QC' (quality control) sticker on the back was a bit of a dead giveaway. I just wanted to reproduce how it would've looked before it was snapped off.

I'm in the far NW Highlands of Scotland, so the chances of someone dropping by with a knowledge of banjos is, I would say, rare to non-existent! But then again, you never know, we're a resourceful and knowledgeable bunch up'ere! Fiddles or bagpipes are usually the instrument of choice, mind.

Cheers.

mike gregory - Posted - 11/11/2021:  10:26:47


Basically, without SEEING it, my guess is:



Take off the neck (easier to handle)

Cut a long piece off the back.

Make the peghead, leaving the NECK portion SQUARE (easier to clamp.)

Pre-drill a couple brad holes in the peghead neck section, and clip the heads off a couple brads, so the points stick out just a  bit.

DRY FIT the pieces.

Drill matching holes where the brad points made a mark.

Use a good glue, NOT epoxy, PAD the fingerboard, and clamp the pieces together.

The brads will keep the slanty parts from sliding under pressure from the clamps.

Let it set up for several days.

Employing the PRINCIPLE of SUBTRACTIONARY CONSTRUCTIONISM [TM], rasp and sand off anything that doesn't look like a banjo neck.

Apply finish, install pegs, tune up, and learn to pick G, C, and D7th.

That will get you the chords for over ten thousand popular songs.

Post video on Banjo HangOut



 



NOTE: A good example of the Principle of Subtractionay Constructionism ( removing the unnecessary to achieve the desired) is how one may take a piece of red paper, cut off anything that doesn't resemble the classic cartoon heart, and end up with the basis for a paper Valentine.


Edited by - mike gregory on 11/11/2021 10:27:36


Banjonewguy - Posted - 11/11/2021:  10:32:59


quote:

Originally posted by jimbobajob

To be honest, I'm happy just treating the repair as a nice wee project.



I didn't want to start gashing about with it if it was some ultra-rare piece although I was fairly certain it wasn't, the 'QC' (quality control) sticker on the back was a bit of a dead giveaway. I just wanted to reproduce how it would've looked before it was snapped off.



I'm in the far NW Highlands of Scotland, so the chances of someone dropping by with a knowledge of banjos is, I would say, rare to non-existent! But then again, you never know, we're a resourceful and knowledgeable bunch up'ere! Fiddles or bagpipes are usually the instrument of choice, mind.



Cheers.






My ex in-laws used to live in Embo over on the northeast coast. Only ever made it up there once but I loved it. I lived down south near Montrose.

Culloden - Posted - 11/11/2021:  11:45:44


And my ancestors immigrated from Caithness and Sutherland.

mike gregory - Posted - 11/11/2021:  12:50:43


My Scots relatives are the Haigs, of distillery fame, at Bremerside.



A quick click on MEMBER SEARCH shows 306 OutHangers in Scotland, with 51 listing "HELPING" as something they like to do.



Click here for contact info:



banjohangout.org/myhangout/def...it=Search

Helix - Posted - 11/12/2021:  05:33:40


See, so you are not alone here. Welcome to the hangout.  306 Scots??  That's a wee few. 



I have that banjo, mine was an orphan with a piece missing, so I made the piece out of strips of Purple Heart (stronger) and reglued the original headstock, replaced the tuners and now it's a waterproof canoe paddle.


Edited by - Helix on 11/12/2021 05:41:04


jimbobajob - Posted - 11/12/2021:  16:54:18


Thanks mike gregory for that detailed repair, I'll make good use of your info. Posting a video might be a bit of a stretch though.

Nice to see a few folk with a connection to Scotland, we were early adopters of escaping a rubbish climate....before it became trendy!

Cheers.

mike gregory - Posted - 11/12/2021:  18:22:49


Get one of the 300 or so other Scots to play it for the video.

The Porch Kid in Deliverance wasn't really playing the banjo.

Somebody was kneeling behind him, with their arms down his sleeves.



Same way some guys did it with these dogs!



 



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