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wannabe picker - Posted - 03/26/2021:  04:15:59


This rim, found in the UK, I thought was interesting. 11 1/4" rim x 3" high. All nickel over brass. The only steel are the hook shoe bolts and the hooks themselves. Interesting tone ring design. It consists of two separate rims. The only connection points are the hook shoe bolts. The inner ring is a bit taller than the outer ring and has approx. 1/2" holes all around close to the skin. Even with half the hardware gone and a big tear in the skin it has an unbelievable ring to it. Any advice concerning age, origin and what sort of neck it may have had would be very helpful. the perch pole opening measures 7/8" inches square. As always thanks all, Bill





 

wannabe picker - Posted - 03/26/2021:  04:18:01


Here are some additional photos, thanks





 

beegee - Posted - 03/26/2021:  09:37:15


Does it have a neck? Better pictures of the entire pot would be helpful.

wannabe picker - Posted - 04/01/2021:  03:00:02


As I said originally there is no neck. It just an interesting double ring resonator arch top rim. With Schall hardware. It was found, with missing neck here in the UK, I thought it was interesting. 11 1/4" rim x 3" high. All nickel over brass. The only steel are the hook shoe bolts and the hooks themselves. It is an interesting tone ring design. It consists of two separate rims. The only connection points are the hook shoe bolts. The inner ring is a bit taller than the outer ring giving it an arch top look and has approx. 1/2" diameter holes all around close to the skin. Even with half the hardware gone and a big tear in the skin it has an unbelievable ring to it. Any advice concerning age, origin and what sort of neck it may have had would be very helpful. The perch pole opening measures 7/8" inches square. It is very difficult to see the marks from the neck or the bridge. I've done the best I can to measure them correctly. The inner ring is 2 7/8" wide the outer ring is 2 3/4" wide. The nickel plated brass is heavy a bit over 2cm thick. There is an additional 2 1/4" x 2 1/4" plate on the inner ring where the perch pole comes through for additional strength. It must have been soldered on before being plated. No rivets or screws are visible. The opening for the perch pole to enter the rim is 7/8" square yet the tail end is 3/4" round and only extends through the inner ring indicating a screw on tail piece. The roundness is achieved by loosening or tightening the hook shoe screws. Many are missing so it is out of round until I can replace them all. I'm only guessing the bridge was located around 3" from the bottom of the rim and was around 2 3/4" to 3" wide. The shape of the end of the neck is nearly impossible to see. I tried to trace it and it seems a bit of a Buckbee shape. It’s about 2 1/2" wide at the top of the rim by around 2 3/4" thick to the top of the rim. I hope this information will be helpful. I do think it was made in America. Here a few more pics, Bill


Edited by - wannabe picker on 04/01/2021 03:15:34





 

Andy FitzGibbon - Posted - 04/01/2021:  04:58:53


The hardware doesn't look Schall to me... it looks more English, especially the nuts. The heel profile you've traced also looks English to me. Most English hardware from this era has the Whitworth thread form, which does look a bit different from American V threads, so that's another clue you could investigate.

wannabe picker - Posted - 04/01/2021:  05:51:07


Thanks Andy. I appreciate your information very much. Bill

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