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Ldonkers - Posted - 01/13/2021:  09:45:17


I was wondering if this can played on a Banjo. I am a complete beginner. It is a song from the combat engineers in the military. I have only heard it played by military bands.


csacwp - Posted - 01/13/2021:  09:59:22


Easily. I would tune gCGBD and play it classic style. You can read right off the page and simply omit any notes lower than C (I had a brief look at the music and none of those notes seem vital).

Ldonkers - Posted - 01/13/2021:  10:18:17


quote:

Originally posted by csacwp

Easily. I would tune gCGBD and play it classic style. You can read right off the page and simply omit any notes lower than C (I had a brief look at the music and none of those notes seem vital).






Thanks that's helpful!

mike gregory - Posted - 01/13/2021:  10:30:43


For those of us who readeth naught the music:

Is THIS the tune?   youtu.be/d6KXez2Bn14

If so, I like it!

janolov - Posted - 01/13/2021:  10:37:48


quote:

Originally posted by mike gregory

For those of us who readeth naught the music:

Is THIS the tune?   youtu.be/d6KXez2Bn14

If so, I like it!






From one who can read a little music: Yes, it is the same tune. 

Ldonkers - Posted - 01/13/2021:  10:41:51


quote:

Originally posted by mike gregory

For those of us who readeth naught the music:

Is THIS the tune?   youtu.be/d6KXez2Bn14

If so, I like it!






Yes sir that is the one!  I like it also :)

csacwp - Posted - 01/13/2021:  11:12:20


I like it too and will work up an arrangement of it for banjo when I have a free moment. For inspirational purposes, here are a few pieces that demonstrate how marches were historically played on the banjo.



m.youtube.com/watch?v=CysJEaYINjw



m.youtube.com/watch?v=AeoVQsNCAAI



m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVRnxIY6kQ


Edited by - csacwp on 01/13/2021 11:14:45

Ldonkers - Posted - 01/13/2021:  13:16:41


quote:

Originally posted by csacwp

I like it too and will work up an arrangement of it for banjo when I have a free moment. For inspirational purposes, here are a few pieces that demonstrate how marches were historically played on the banjo.



m.youtube.com/watch?v=CysJEaYINjw



m.youtube.com/watch?v=AeoVQsNCAAI



m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVRnxIY6kQ






Thanks for sharing.  I am not sure how many other people like Military Marches.  It's great to see others are interested also especially when played on a Banjo.  I am a long way from playing anything like that.  I can dream though :)



 



 

csacwp - Posted - 01/13/2021:  13:40:27


quote:

Originally posted by Ldonkers

quote:

Originally posted by csacwp

I like it too and will work up an arrangement of it for banjo when I have a free moment. For inspirational purposes, here are a few pieces that demonstrate how marches were historically played on the banjo.



m.youtube.com/watch?v=CysJEaYINjw



m.youtube.com/watch?v=AeoVQsNCAAI



m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVRnxIY6kQ






Thanks for sharing.  I am not sure how many other people like Military Marches.  It's great to see others are interested also especially when played on a Banjo.  I am a long way from playing anything like that.  I can dream though :)



 



 






I am really into them. Check out classic-banjo.ning.com if you want to learn more about this style of playing. They also have free sheet music for download. 


Edited by - csacwp on 01/13/2021 13:41:13

Ldonkers - Posted - 01/13/2021:  14:25:32


quote:

Originally posted by csacwp

quote:

Originally posted by Ldonkers

quote:

Originally posted by csacwp

I like it too and will work up an arrangement of it for banjo when I have a free moment. For inspirational purposes, here are a few pieces that demonstrate how marches were historically played on the banjo.



m.youtube.com/watch?v=CysJEaYINjw



m.youtube.com/watch?v=AeoVQsNCAAI



m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVRnxIY6kQ






Thanks for sharing.  I am not sure how many other people like Military Marches.  It's great to see others are interested also especially when played on a Banjo.  I am a long way from playing anything like that.  I can dream though :)



 



 






I am really into them. Check out classic-banjo.ning.com if you want to learn more about this style of playing. They also have free sheet music for download. 






I am learning so much about the world of Banjos.  I didn't realize there are so many different ways to play!  I rented a Banjo and got finger picks as I thought this was needed.  After searching videos I saw clawhammer and started to notice the different sounds.  I think as a beginner I am drawn to clawhammer because the melody is easier to pick out.  I am not really interested in anything other than solo so the style makes sense.  Thanks for sharing the link of classic Banjos.  I really like the sound of that also.  It's so hard for a beginner to chose a path.  I think I have found the right place on this forum! It's gonna be a fun journey. :)



 



 

Leslie R - Posted - 01/14/2021:  03:48:28


Thanks, this is a good march.

I like the sound of a march played on a banjo. I've looked at a couple of marches, but it's been a while. If memory is correct, I think the were written in Bb.

Joel Hooks - Posted - 01/14/2021:  06:20:28


FWI, the marches John posted were composed specifically for the banjo by banjoists. This was one of the most popular types of music played on the banjo starting in the late 1870s through 1900 (through WW2 if you were in England).

There was an endless amount of marches composed or arranged for banjo. The Classic Banjo site has enough to keep one busy for a lifetime, but there is so much more than that.

And speaking of "Clawhammer", early on marches were often played with a "thimble" (a sort of shield worn on the index finger to cover the nail for striking the strings) as it was loud and exciting.

What is now called "Clawhammer" is basically the original "Stroke Style". Stroke Style was concurrent with what we now call "Classic Banjo" (but was at that time called "Fingerstyle", "Guitarstyle", or just "playing banjo").

If one were to flesh this piece out with harmony, it would make a great "thimble march".

Ldonkers - Posted - 01/14/2021:  06:31:53


quote:

Originally posted by Joel Hooks

FWI, the marches John posted were composed specifically for the banjo by banjoists. This was one of the most popular types of music played on the banjo starting in the late 1870s through 1900 (through WW2 if you were in England).



There was an endless amount of marches composed or arranged for banjo. The Classic Banjo site has enough to keep one busy for a lifetime, but there is so much more than that.



And speaking of "Clawhammer", early on marches were often played with a "thimble" (a sort of shield worn on the index finger to cover the nail for striking the strings) as it was loud and exciting.



What is now called "Clawhammer" is basically the original "Stroke Style". Stroke Style was concurrent with what we now call "Classic Banjo" (but was at that time called "Fingerstyle", "Guitarstyle", or just "playing banjo").



If one were to flesh this piece out with harmony, it would make a great "thimble march".






Thanks for your reply.  I am certainly learning at lot about the Banjo World.  I should have done this years ago! I always just thought of the Banjo as bluegrass and had no idea the Banjo could do so much more.  

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 01/14/2021:  06:42:07


I don't want to confuse the O.P. but his PDF is for trumpet so even if he could play this piece perfectly it would be in the key of G as written not in the key of F as played by the Brass band.

Joel Hooks - Posted - 01/14/2021:  06:58:26


quote:

Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

I don't want to confuse the O.P. but his PDF is for trumpet so even if he could play this piece perfectly it would be in the key of G as written not in the key of F as played by the Brass band.






C, G, and F are "natural keys" for the banjo.  The vast majority of music composed or arranged for 5 string banjo before the folk era were in those keys.  It is common to transpose the key of a piece to one more suited to the instrument it is being arranged for.



What key a brass band plays it in makes no difference, the banjo is not a brass band.



 



 

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 01/14/2021:  07:10:14


quote:

Originally posted by Joel Hooks

quote:

Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

I don't want to confuse the O.P. but his PDF is for trumpet so even if he could play this piece perfectly it would be in the key of G as written not in the key of F as played by the Brass band.






C, G, and F are "natural keys" for the banjo.  The vast majority of music composed or arranged for 5 string banjo before the folk era were in those keys.  It is common to transpose the key of a piece to one more suited to the instrument it is being arranged for.



What key a brass band plays it in makes no difference, the banjo is not a brass band.



 



 






That's all well and good but if a beginner puts in months of practice on something in the wrong key their great effort will be an exercise in frustration if playing along with the original composition is the goal. Here's the PDF of the correct key (F) taken from the oboe part.


heavy5 - Posted - 01/19/2021:  11:18:06


As Pete Seeger once said when asked , " I don't read enough music to hurt my playin"



These marches played here are pretty cool ! 


Edited by - heavy5 on 01/19/2021 11:23:31

Jack Baker - Posted - 01/19/2021:  12:23:54


Wonderful John and thank you...Jack




Originally posted by csacwp

I like it too and will work up an arrangement of it for banjo when I have a free moment. For inspirational purposes, here are a few pieces that demonstrate how marches were historically played on the banjo.



m.youtube.com/watch?v=CysJEaYINjw



m.youtube.com/watch?v=AeoVQsNCAAI



m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVRnxIY6kQ






 

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