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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Resource for Plectrum banjo tunes / charts / arrangements?


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ViperMad13 - Posted - 05/23/2020:  16:23:54


Heyyy folks. I’m looking for a resource for learning tunes for standard tuned plectrum banjo; chord charts for Dixieland Jazz, spirituals, etc. Any tips? Thank You in advance.


Edited by - ViperMad13 on 05/23/2020 16:36:41

guitarbanjoman - Posted - 05/24/2020:  07:04:20


Dear Mr. Viper,



You mean, lead sheets of dixieland standards and spirituals with chord names?



Or charts for playing chord melody for plectrum banjo?



My own recommendation would be to just use lead sheets with chord names and just make up your own fingerings for how to play the melody.



You will be training your ear and your fingers to work together, rather than memorizing a bunch of stuff which you don’t fully understand...



Now of course this doesn’t apply if you want to memorize a complex solo by, say, Eddie Peabody. But you don’t seem to be headed in that direction...?



Will


Edited by - guitarbanjoman on 05/24/2020 07:05:31

ViperMad13 - Posted - 05/24/2020:  08:01:16


I’m looking for a resource for learning tunes for standard tuned plectrum banjo; chord charts for Dixieland Jazz tunes spirituals, etc.



I'm about to order and dig into Cynthia Sayer's book. 



Any suggestions on other titles?



Thanks you kindly, in advance.


Edited by - ViperMad13 on 05/24/2020 08:17:00

Bruce Miner - Posted - 05/24/2020:  10:40:20


Hey ViperMad 13 - Here are plectrum chord charts for a couple of tunes that I created for a fellow BHO member a while back. The numbers on the left side of the chord represent the fret, and the number on the bottom represents the number of beats. Hope this is helpful to you. Best of luck on your plectrum quest.


Fathand - Posted - 05/24/2020:  11:52:24


The Real Book series which can sometimes be found online as free downloads?

Omeboy - Posted - 05/24/2020:  11:55:17


Nice to see you're still alive and well, Bruce.



Too bad Don Van Palta's website is no longer active.  That was a real plectrum goldmine. Meanwhile, you can check out this great site for plectrum:



jbott.com/chord_melody_charts.html



And here's some more links to plectrum instruction:



banjohangout.org/blog/34982


Edited by - Omeboy on 05/24/2020 12:04:45

ViperMad13 - Posted - 05/24/2020:  18:49:24


Thank You all so much.

Ondrej - Posted - 05/25/2020:  04:34:30


I don't play Dixieland, I don't have options. I play music in a café on the plectrum banjo.



youtube.com/watch?v=RWiFhIdKjR...p;index=2





In addition, I arrange more genres for the plectrum banjo.

Here are examples of tablatures. Page 127-138.



osos.sweb.cz/Sarek-Guitar-and-...eview.pdf

And here are some demos on my youtube channel.



youtube.com/results?search_que...+plectrum

sethb - Posted - 05/25/2020:  16:09:36


quote:

Originally posted by ViperMad13

Heyyy folks. I’m looking for a resource for learning tunes for standard tuned plectrum banjo; chord charts for Dixieland Jazz, spirituals, etc. Any tips? Thank You in advance.






The Creole Jazz Band has put out a fake book of many traditional Dixieland tunes, all in the public domain (published prior to 1925), in .pdf file (Adode) format, and it's free to download.  Each tune has the melody line, lyrics and chord changes.  Here's the link: bob.bmcadvies.com/PDF/Creole%2...ebook.pdf   



If your band has a clarinet or sax, there are also Bb and Eb versions of the same fake book, on the same website. 



Hope this is helpful to you!  SETH  



 

guitarbanjoman - Posted - 05/26/2020:  05:16:32


Thanks, Seth! There’s a lot of good tunes in there.

I wonder if things will ever get back to the point where I can get together with my band and rehearse or play again so we can use some of them!

Will

sethb - Posted - 05/26/2020:  10:06:53


Hey Will, we're all wondering the same thing!  Even when it's declared safe to have large indoor gatherings, I'm not sure I will still feel safe putting our band in that type of situation.  And ditto for rehearsing --- who wants to rehearse with a six or seven piece group, with everyone sitting at least six feet apart?



Anyway, here's another fine Dixieland resource.  The music publisher Hal Leonard Corporation has put out a very good "fake book" called "The Real Dixieland Book," with lots of good tunes, including ones like Louie Armstrong's 1936 "Swing That Music," which is very tough to find elsewhere.  It's available on Amazon for about $20, and is also available in Bb and Eb versions, also about $20 apiece.  We don't always agree with some of the chord changes, but as the author/compiler Bob Rawlins notes in his introduction, feel free to change whatever you want, nothing is written in stone there.  Here's the link: amazon.com/Real-Dixieland-Book...mp;sr=8-2



You might also want to visit the website for the Shotgun Jazz Band, which is a New Orleans-based group.  They play in the traditional New Orleans style, which is an older and less frenetic version of Dixieland than Clancy Hayes, the Dukes of Dixieland and similar groups.  New Orleans Dixieland has the traditional ensemble/solos arrangements, but it's usually played and designed specifically for dancing.  So at least to my ears, it's much more rhythmic and melodic, but also more relaxed and listenable than some of the more hard-driving groups.  And banjoist John Dixon plays one mean tenor banjo!  Here's the link: shotgunjazzband.bandcamp.com/a.../yearning   There's also a terrific long video of a concert by the band on YouTube, here's the link for that: youtube.com/watch?v=RicINWvmAcg 



Take care and keep strumming!  SETH


Edited by - sethb on 05/26/2020 10:10:10

trussrod - Posted - 05/26/2020:  17:16:43


Traditional jazz is teetering on the edge of extinction here on the West coast but many cities have jazz societies that typically get together monthly. They are usually open to the public by purchasing a ticket, you can join the society and if you are a member carrying an instrument you might get in free. In addition to the featured band there will likely be a jam session. It’s the place to go to talk to musicians and find sources for fake books, supplies, and gigs.
Try search keys with region or city + traditional or jazz.

sethb - Posted - 05/27/2020:  07:55:16


quote:

Originally posted by ViperMad13

Heyyy folks. I’m looking for a resource for learning tunes for standard tuned plectrum banjo; chord charts for Dixieland Jazz, spirituals, etc. Any tips? Thank You in advance.






Here's the Shotgun Jazz Band on YouTube again, at the French Market in New Orleans. They're playing the traditional spiritual "Over in the Gloryland" in Dixieland style, with some great solos by all concerned, plus very good ensemble work.  Here's the YouTube link: youtube.com/watch?v=NMNOfxQ7qG8   



And here's the same band playing "I Can't Escape From You," a lovely Bing Crosby ballad from 1936, but in a real swinging version, with a great solo by cornetist Ed Polcer sitting in with the band: youtube.com/watch?v=qA3Iu3HHfUs   SETH



 


Edited by - sethb on 05/27/2020 07:56:41

ViperMad13 - Posted - 05/27/2020:  23:12:23


hey Seth - I live on the edge of the quarter here in New Orleans in the marigny. It's 3 blocks from my front door to the spotted cat on Frenchmen st.



you’re posting links to my local music scene ;)


Edited by - ViperMad13 on 05/27/2020 23:17:23

sethb - Posted - 05/28/2020:  11:54:17


quote:

Originally posted by ViperMad13

hey Seth - I live on the edge of the quarter here in New Orleans in the marigny. It's 3 blocks from my front door to the spotted cat on Frenchmen st.



you’re posting links to my local music scene ;)






Yep, I saw that in your first post! 



I lived in New Orleans for three years back in the 1970's.  Great town, great music and great food. And I miss those fried oyster po' boys and Red Beans & Rice, too.  SETH

Knows Picker - Posted - 05/28/2020:  11:58:20


Thanks for posting that huge Dixieland book!!

That will keep me busy for a while!!

sethb - Posted - 05/29/2020:  13:37:49


This is a bit off topic, but I'm curious about the photo of your banjo.  The graphics on the back of resonator look very much like a Vega product, but the center star says "Heyer," a name I'm not familiar with.  Is this a Vega do-over, a look-alike, or something else? 



Can you tell us a little more about your banjo, and perhaps post a shot of the front of it?   SETH

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