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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Restringing a GT CEB-4


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Picking Dick - Posted - 01/14/2020:  06:00:57


I’ve just spent two days trying to restring my CEB-4. The job also cost one broken string too, but I finally got ‘er done.

What a hassle! Whoever thought that those four little tie on pegs was a good idea must have never tried to string a cello-banjo. The video showing how to knot the string’s ends is useless. One can’t see what the guy is doing with the knot — BAH!

Well, enough whining. I’m just hoping that I will now be able to play the darned thing without any more strings slipping off the pegs or breaking.

Sure, I realize that it might be my ineptness that caused my problems, so how ‘bout some help. Has anyone had a bunch of trouble stringing a CEB-4? If not, what kinda knot did you use? Did you break any strings? Have any slipped off the pegs? Will any other kinda strings work?

rmcdow - Posted - 01/14/2020:  07:25:50


I have a CEB-5, and use D'Addario XL flat wound strings on it. They have a ball end, and I remove the ball, giving me a loop end that I can use to hook over those pegs. I don't use the Goldtone strings, both for the reason you state and also because they are really noisy because of the windings.

Picking Dick - Posted - 01/14/2020:  08:07:30


Yeah, I’ve heard about the D’Addario XL and may try them. I already have some Aquila guitar strings and wondered how they would work. I’m also lookin’ for a better tie-on knot.

I think those string pegs are really a pain. i’ll look in to the D’Addarios too. How do you get the ball out?

rmcdow - Posted - 01/14/2020:  09:31:51


I cut the ball in two with a pair of fine end nippers, then wiggle out the pieces.
I use this knot on gut strings and nylon strings:
animatedknots.com/perfection-loop-knot
It has never slipped on me, and once you figure it out, it is not hard to tie.

Dubl-M - Posted - 01/14/2020:  12:13:05


rmcdow , what are your preferred gauges on the D'Addario XL strings for the CEB-5 ? It looks like these are steel core electric guitar strings. Do you stick to one tuning, or can you jump from say open-g to open-a, or from double-c to double-d without having too much loss of tension and tone ?

rmcdow - Posted - 01/14/2020:  13:14:03


quote:

Originally posted by Dubl-M

rmcdow , what are your preferred gauges on the D'Addario XL strings for the CEB-5 ? It looks like these are steel core electric guitar strings. Do you stick to one tuning, or can you jump from say open-g to open-a, or from double-c to double-d without having too much loss of tension and tone ?


The flat wounds I use now are .024w, .032w, .042w, .052w, .024w,  D'Addario flat-wound ECG25 XL Chrome lights. They are $14.99 from JustStrings, and the extra single string you will need for the 5th string is $4.78.  D'Addario also makes a ECG23 (.004" smaller on each string) and a ECG24 (.002" smaller on each string).  I plan on trying the ECG23 sometime soon, as I think the lighter strings may make an easier play.  I have a fretless CEB5, and have only tuned to open G.  I'm not sure what would happen when tuning to a different tuning, as I haven't tried that.  Right now the strings move a lot when you pluck them; you can see the movement from across the room.  The tension seems about right in open G, but I think lighter strings may be a bit less stiff, and want to try them.  They are great strings.  




 

Picking Dick - Posted - 02/01/2020:  20:53:58


Well, as I posted before, I finally got all four strings on and tuned and was able to play okay for quite a while. Then, the other night as I was reading, there was a POP, and the 2nd string busted all by itself. It broke right where I usually pick. I was very relieved that it wasn’t the knot that slipped off the dumb little peg.

Anyway I wrote to Gold Tone and told them my sad story. They were extremely nice and immediately said that they’d send me some #2 strings, which I got today. They generously sent four strings.

I’m very appreciative of the good service that I received from Gold Tone. I already own some of their other instruments, and I like them a lot. I highly recommend them to anyone lookin’ for a good banjo.

Now, I gotta put that darn #2 string on. I’m open to any suggestions from anyone who has already successfully accomplished the task. I have some knots that are different from the one I used before. On my other string change, Strings 4, 3 and 1 tuned right up, but #2 took lots of winding. I dunno why.

Well, I hope I get it right this time so I can play it some more. I was having a good time before.

Picking Dick - Posted - 02/22/2020:  20:17:16


Well, today as I was plunkin’ away, the darned D string broke again. This time it broke at the tuner. I surely don’t think much of the Gold Tone CEB-4 strings.

Anybody got a suggestion for some other kind of strings I could use? I have some Aquila banjo strings. Would they work?

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