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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Installing Rare Earth Pickup on open back banjo with dual coordinator rods


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Paul Sutherland - Posted - 12/30/2019:  01:07:47


For a lot of reasons I would like to install a Fishman Rare Earth pickup on my Recording King OT 25 open back banjo. The banjo has dual coordinator rods so attaching the pickup to the rods is straight forward. I successfully did it on a couple resonator banjos so that part is fairly easy. I am not interested in any other pickups.

My issue is the Rare Earth is designed so that the jack is to be mounted on the flange of a Mastertone style banjo, and, of course, my RK does not have such a flange. How does one go about attaching the jack assembly to the rim of a banjo with no flange? I'm not going to drill any holes in the rim. I think I once saw a photo where someone had installed the jack assembly inside the pot near the tailpiece, but I can't find that picture. Perhaps it could be secured in some manner on the outside of the pot to the lug bolts that tighten the head tension.

Any suggestions and/or pictures are welcomed.

country frank - Posted - 12/30/2019:  01:40:26


Don't have pics afraid but I used a Schatten [pick up] on several of my banjos and likewise didn't want any permanent evidence [like holes or additional brackets mounted on the hooks for instance].

Essentially you can simply cable tie the jack socket to the lower co-rod - use 2 ties and this will keep the unit in place - when you have finished with it simply cut the ties off and away you go.

The only 'fiddle' can be ensuring you position the jack socket in such a way that you are able to connect the jack lead to the socket from the rear of the banjo [as the lead will sit inside the pot].

Good luck.

RioStat - Posted - 12/30/2019:  06:30:39


I took a pickup and jack off of a banjo i bought a couple years ago, and the jack was mounted on the outside of the rim with one of these. The plastic clip has a self-adhesive pad made from that semi-thick "foam" stuff.



I believe you can find these clips at Lowes, Home Depot, etc....



waytekwire.com/products/1372/A...d-Clamps/



 


Edited by - RioStat on 12/30/2019 06:31:26

rudy - Posted - 12/30/2019:  06:47:03


quote:

Originally posted by Paul Sutherland

For a lot of reasons I would like to install a Fishman Rare Earth pickup on my Recording King OT 25 open back banjo. The banjo has dual coordinator rods so attaching the pickup to the rods is straight forward. I successfully did it on a couple resonator banjos so that part is fairly easy. I am not interested in any other pickups.



My issue is the Rare Earth is designed so that the jack is to be mounted on the flange of a Mastertone style banjo, and, of course, my RK does not have such a flange. How does one go about attaching the jack assembly to the rim of a banjo with no flange? I'm not going to drill any holes in the rim. I think I once saw a photo where someone had installed the jack assembly inside the pot near the tailpiece, but I can't find that picture. Perhaps it could be secured in some manner on the outside of the pot to the lug bolts that tighten the head tension.



Any suggestions and/or pictures are welcomed.






First off, you made an excellent choice for a pickup... the best option available.



Second, on a banjo with dual rods I'd make up a split wood block to clamp over the rods with a drilled hole to house the jack.  If you have difficulty with what that would entail, it would be similar to the "single rod" alternative mounting shown in the installation guide, but accommodating both rods.



You could also make one block thicker and mount the jack in the thick block. Things get a bit tight in there and that would allow your output cable to be looped around a rod and routed to the side of the jack.

steve davis - Posted - 12/30/2019:  07:12:15


If you add a small "Vega" style armrest you'd have a good mounting surface for the jack.


Edited by - steve davis on 12/30/2019 07:14:05

Paul Sutherland - Posted - 12/30/2019:  10:43:51


Thanks to all for the good suggestions. I'm pretty sure I can work something out. Now I have to decide if I really want to haul two banjos to gigs just so I don't have to retune mid-set.

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