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Jonny8040 - Posted - 12/26/2019:  16:33:30


Hey everybody!

I'm looking at buying new microphones for the band (guitar, banjo, and bass) I am looking at the Samson R21 Dynamic Vocal Microphone and was wondering if you think these will be good for the instruments?



Thanks!



In Jesus,

Jonny


Edited by - Texasbanjo on 12/27/2019 04:33:59

Old Hickory - Posted - 12/26/2019:  18:36:22


Three for $36. With carry case.



I'm guessing it's the best $12 mic you can buy.

The Old Timer - Posted - 12/26/2019:  19:11:38


That is such a LOW LOW LOW price that it seems too good to be true. Which usually means it's not true.



Are you cutting corners here? I don't know what instruments you play or how good you sound, but the lesson that took me the longest to learn is to spend money on sound equipment that's a least some respectable portion of the value of your instruments and what you charge for a gig.



I have settled on Audio Technica mics for vocals and lead instruments. I use a somewhat less expensive mic to stick in the bass fiddle tailpiece area wrapped in foam. I believe it's a Boehringer -- came with the PA set (PA is nothing special certainly, but serviceable for amateur bluegrassers). Each A-T instrument mic cost $90 and I'm VERY happy with them. Believe me, I'd like to have ElectroVoice RA 20s or even the squared off $1300 AKG, but even I have my limits.


Edited by - The Old Timer on 12/26/2019 19:14:03

eagleisland - Posted - 12/26/2019:  20:54:15


Your question really belongs in the Live Sound, Recording and Electronics forum. Don't bother to repost your query; the mods have already been notified and you'll likely find this thread moved there by tomorrow.

There's a thread at the top of that forum called PA 101. I suggest you read that. It may give you some insights into how to provide sound reinforcement for your band.

And I agree with Dick (The Old Timer) and Ken (Old Hickory). Don't cheap out on this stuff. Cheap equipment fails, and always at the worst possible time.

debmurphy1 - Posted - 12/27/2019:  02:57:49


Someone gave me a $10.00 mic (new and wireless to boot.) It is everything $10.00 will give you.

Go with a name brand (I prefer Shure or Audio Technica). Voice mics are different than instrument mics so you would need some of each. Oh, and buy a match set. If you buy Shure, buy all Shure. It is easier setting up that way. Expensive - yes. Worth it - yes.

...Deb

SimonSlick - Posted - 12/27/2019:  05:32:18


Shure 57s for the instruments and 58s for the vocals. You can find them new for about $90 to $100 each. They are virtually indestructible for live use and are commonly used in recording studios as well. The narrow cardioid pattern for the 57's helps avoid feedback.

Old Hickory - Posted - 12/27/2019:  10:49:38


quote:

Originally posted by SimonSlick

Shure 57s for the instruments and 58s for the vocals.






Are there "better" mikes?  Possibly. Are these industry standards? Definitely.


Edited by - Old Hickory on 12/27/2019 10:50:02

Old Hickory - Posted - 12/27/2019:  11:10:11


quote:

Originally posted by Jonny8040

...was wondering if you think these will be good for the instruments?






In my personal experience with cheap microphones (from the $20 mic+tripod boom stand+cable package MusiciansFriend used to sell) I believe these are good for two main purposes:



- Practice, to save a little time in packing up for gigs. This only applies if you routinely practice with PA, which my electric bands always did and my acoustic bands never did.



- Protecting good microphones against the bumps, bruises and theft that can happen at some gigs.  If I were a DJ or karaoke host, I'd definitely use one of those $12 Samsons for the wedding toasters or amateur singers who routinely abuse microphones.  Could probably afford to go through one per gig.



Postition of moderation:  If you absolutely need microphones for your band's instruments and absolutely can't afford or justify a batch of SM57s right now, then get these, start pooling your band's gig money and get the better mics as soon as you can afford them. Be prepared to use EQ to make up for the mics' deficiencies.

mikehalloran - Posted - 12/28/2019:  19:55:42


quote:

Originally posted by Old Hickory

quote:

Originally posted by SimonSlick

Shure 57s for the instruments and 58s for the vocals.






Are there "better" mikes?  Possibly. Are these industry standards? Definitely.






We're they designed for the PA systems built in the 1960s to the 600 Ohm Bell Telephone spec? Yep.



Has everything changed since then — except the SM 57/58? Yep.



Is any PA built to the old Bell spec? Nope. 2400 Ohms input is typical.



Is there better for the same price? Oh hell yes.



The AKG D5 costs the same, is built to modern specs and sounds a good deal better than a 57 or 58.

Old Hickory - Posted - 12/29/2019:  11:28:47


quote:

Originally posted by mikehalloran

The AKG D5 costs the same, is built to modern specs and sounds a good deal better than a 57 or 58.






Live and learn.



Thanks.

rudy - Posted - 12/29/2019:  16:08:38


There's only one mic that I consider a real sleeper; it's the $23 (shipping included...) Behringer SM57 clone.  I have a few of these and they are really well made and sound VERY close to a 57.



Behringer XM-8500 dynamic mic



 

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