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CappyBanjo - Posted - 11/27/2019:  13:47:44


Can someone help me can’t find this Chord 4string tenor
Thanks

deestexas - Posted - 11/27/2019:  14:35:05


find the following notes: G#, B, D, F#

Alex Z - Posted - 11/27/2019:  15:40:31


Would be F, since the G#-F interval is also diminished, rather than F#.  Interval of a minor third between each two notes, including D-F.

aintbrokejustbadlybent - Posted - 11/27/2019:  16:00:15


Starting with the low string.
2
1
3
2

G Edward Porgie - Posted - 11/27/2019:  16:54:05


Because all the intervals are minor 3rds, the G# dim7 can also be Bdim7, Ddim7, or Fdim7, if that helps you to find the notes.

aintbrokejustbadlybent - Posted - 11/27/2019:  18:59:03


CappyBanjo

Hey Ron,
You can also find that chord by keeping the same shape and moving up 3 frets.
5
4
6
5

Move up 3 more frets keep same shape and you have another G#dim chord.
The magic of the dim chord.

G Edward Porgie - Posted - 11/29/2019:  15:05:52


A friend of mine always refered to these chors as the "Demented chords."

mlawyer - Posted - 12/05/2019:  13:33:07


A diminished 7 chord does not have a 6 in it. It's one of the 4 voice harmonized diatonic scale chords, the one based on the 7th note.
Anyway, a G#dim7 has an f# rather than an f.
A nice substitution is a Bminor. It has 3 of the notes of the G#dim7, all except g#. you won't miss the root, most likely.
Otherwise, from low to high you can play 2 1 0 2 and that has all of the chord tones

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 12/05/2019:  14:16:29


quote:

Originally posted by mlawyer

A diminished 7 chord does not have a 6 in it. It's one of the 4 voice harmonized diatonic scale chords, the one based on the 7th note.

Anyway, a G#dim7 has an f# rather than an f.

A nice substitution is a Bminor. It has 3 of the notes of the G#dim7, all except g#. you won't miss the root, most likely.

Otherwise, from low to high you can play 2 1 0 2 and that has all of the chord tones






You need to look up the difference between half-diminished and full-diminished.

mlawyer - Posted - 12/05/2019:  17:12:10


Thanks for setting me straight. I’ve been screwing that up for decades probably. I have thought that a min7b5 was the same as dim7. When I play a dim chord it has a min 3 flat5 and maj6. I tend not to think of it as a double flat 7, which is the source of my error here I think. Do you play a different chord for dim and dim7?

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 12/05/2019:  18:32:12


Hello Mitch, I try to look at the standard notation in order to verify whatever they are calling it. If that is not available and I have time I will test the harmony of the b7 and bb7 intervals on their own. Regards, Rick

CandyAppleMan - Posted - 12/13/2019:  10:26:58


Learn the notes on your fingerboard and then learn your number system regarding your chord formulas.

You can teach yourself any and every chord.

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