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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Successful effetcs with banjo?


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stevedenver - Posted - 10/10/2019:  07:13:34


So aside from concerns of musical style or traditional sound, what effects have you found useful?



I have been playing with effects. Im trying to find novel textures ,obviously not in strict bluegrass or old time applications.





I find some tend to obliterate the identifiable sound of banjo and mandolin, and make them indistinguishable from guitar, eg, distortion, wah.



Im experimenting successfully with reverb, reverse plate ( defeats the characteristic banjo attack) delay, trem, looper and chorus. Things that tend to preserve some transparency of sound/tone. I have found some that allow me to create a cello like drone.



Any other places i should be looking, things y’all like?


Edited by - stevedenver on 10/10/2019 07:18:03

plars - Posted - 10/10/2019:  07:56:39


I use a phase shifter (very sparingly) with my band. Have you ever listen to the pinky fingers podcast? You should because the guy does a great job! I have no affiliation or anything I just really enjoy it and feel like most people would. He had an interview with Kyle Tuttle a while back and Kyle goes through what he uses pedal/effect wise.

conic - Posted - 10/10/2019:  08:02:20


Interesting stuff Steve. Not really effects but take a look at Jimi Five he is a member on here and does some interesting tricks with his banjo and a looper.



 



youtube.com/watch?v=V7oK76w1qUc

Tractor1 - Posted - 10/10/2019:  08:51:03


I use them ,been messing with since the 70s but no can't brag about any success,A little overdrive for (one example)can thicken things up,and still get definition. I know how to do this a bit better nowadays though.They are scattered around on my channel

 


Foote - Posted - 10/10/2019:  11:42:49


Pete Wernick has been using a phase shifter (I think) for decades on a song or two per set (or did in the early Hot Rize days). Here's his Shady Grove from Dr. Banjo Steps Out
youtube.com/watch?v=-NpBoi69JS...&index=10

stevedenver - Posted - 10/10/2019:  14:09:40


thanks to all, I listened to each video.
yeah I forgot about petes phaser....

have to say jimmy 5s looper give me some ideas, not only percussive, but for drones.

glad to see im not the only ....odd duck,LOL

Tractor1 - Posted - 10/10/2019:  14:55:31


a little modulation etc.here,hey I get bored,Since this is built out of multiple tracks,a loop would just be more of the same here,



That noise is a bad attempt at using horse galloping samples


Edited by - Tractor1 on 10/10/2019 14:57:58

Old Hickory - Posted - 10/10/2019:  15:09:53


Billy Ray Latham played banjo through a fuzz-tone in the song Redbound Hound on the Dillards album "Roots and Branches."  They played this song live during the years he was with the band in the '70s.



I don't know what exact pedal he used, but in an interview the summer of 1972 he told me his pickup was a Barcus Berry.

jan dupree - Posted - 10/11/2019:  08:48:26


How bout a version of All along the Watchtower.

Tractor1 - Posted - 10/11/2019:  08:58:33


careful what you say around here Jan,when are you going to post us one of your playing or have you? maybe I missed it,not a first for me




Edited by - Tractor1 on 10/11/2019 09:05:54

PeterJ - Posted - 10/11/2019:  10:40:29


Overdrive, distortion and fuzz have never worked for me - they just sound muddy and buzzy if I get them loud enough to hear the effect. I used to used a flanger (kind of metallic sounding), had great success with chorus, and now keep a DOD phaser on the pedal board. It’s similar to a Phase 45, so it’s only 2 stage, which I think helps keep more of the original tone.

Envelope filter is fun, but, like a wash pedal, you probably don’t want to use it often.

Also, I always use a compressor, either at the board or a pedal. It takes down the dynamics just enough to keep the punchlines and limit feedback.

Tractor1 - Posted - 10/11/2019:  10:55:39


Since nobody asked,

the over drive and it's kin distortion do not depend on modulation,they try to mimic a tubes natural tendency to add pleasant overtones,think 5th string ringing when rolling on chords that fit.They do work better on the baritone.

The rest of the stuff can be used It is time based  . to do best'' on a lot of them'' being aware of correct mixing and best exact tempo can be helpful. Compared to some other genres, up tempo on a masterclone is limited for sure but some things can be pulled off


Edited by - Tractor1 on 10/11/2019 10:58:05

jan dupree - Posted - 10/11/2019:  18:05:31


quote:

Originally posted by Tractor1

careful what you say around here Jan,when are you going to post us one of your playing or have you? maybe I missed it,not a first for me








Good version, I wish I could sing. I've been meaning to post one of me doing a Bob Seeger or Beatles. I'll either put it on FB or youtube. I tried to do Watchtower, but without the low strings I could'nt make it work, especially without any singing.

jan dupree - Posted - 10/11/2019:  19:00:12


quote:

Originally posted by jan dupree

quote:

Originally posted by Tractor1

careful what you say around here Jan,when are you going to post us one of your playing or have you? maybe I missed it,not a first for me








Good version, I wish I could sing. I've been meaning to post one of me doing a Bob Seeger or Beatles. I'll either put it on FB or youtube. I tried to do Watchtower, but without the low strings I could'nt make it work, especially without any singing.






youtu.be/wFzajuWaUM0  Right off the bat I got this one, but I had the mike inside the pot right under my picks, and it picked up all the pick noise.  I want to do it over on my Huber, with the mike on the camera, using a Bluechip thumbpick, and Wyatt finger picks which should eliminate the pick noise. 

Tractor1 - Posted - 10/11/2019:  19:11:35


Great tone .Pick noise has got to be way up for me to hear it. Yep nice .My friend sings seeger and beatles so I get to just mess with making the banjo fit ,very much fun.I'll watch for your posts,if you have time and an inkling

jan dupree - Posted - 10/11/2019:  20:42:30


quote:

Originally posted by Tractor1

Great tone .Pick noise has got to be way up for me to hear it. Yep nice .My friend sings seeger and beatles so I get to just mess with making the banjo fit ,very much fun.I'll watch for your posts,if you have time and an inkling






I figured out a pretty good version of Still the Same. 

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