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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Violin type pegbox for banjo peghead?


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bass-swimmer - Posted - 08/25/2019:  06:50:25


So an idea came to me (possibly a dumb one), but I was wondering: has anyone ever made a banjo neck with a violin type pegbox and scroll instead of a peghead? How good/bad/odd would that look?
Just spitballing ideas, seeing what sticks.

deestexas - Posted - 08/25/2019:  07:04:31


yes

lapsteel - Posted - 08/25/2019:  07:20:12


An image search or searching on Pinterest might turn one up.

Banner Blue - Posted - 08/25/2019:  07:30:08


Brandt and Lyon and Healy put scrolls on some of their mandolins. Dulcimers are made with a somewhat simplified violin scroll. There are lots of slot head instruments sans scroll. Cutting a scroll requires a set of wood gouges with carefully chosen sweeps and a lot of practice.

bass-swimmer - Posted - 08/25/2019:  07:48:03


Thanks for the quick replies! I am still in the planning/early construction stages of a cherry open back banjo, and the idea struck me early in the morning. And a quick follow up question, would metal banjo strings still wear into the pegs too much, or would the pegs hold fine?

Ken LeVan - Posted - 08/25/2019:  08:01:50


A lot of people do that.  As for the pegs, you can use the ones intended for violins, but I find them sketchy with steel strings (don't ask me why I know that).  You might consider modifying the pegbox so that there is a center piece dividing it into two sections, which would allow you to use  geared classical guitar tuners, some of which are designed for seel strings

OldPappy - Posted - 08/25/2019:  08:15:34


There are all sorts of geared tuners which are made for Violin family instruments. I would use something like that rather than wooden violin pegs.



 



google.com/search?q=geared+vio...GqrTgK6M:



 

rudy - Posted - 08/25/2019:  08:16:50


quote:

Originally posted by bass-swimmer

So an idea came to me (possibly a dumb one), but I was wondering: has anyone ever made a banjo neck with a violin type pegbox and scroll instead of a peghead? How good/bad/odd would that look?

Just spitballing ideas, seeing what sticks.






The ultimate in inspiration would be Luke Mercier's "Violjo" series of banjos with violin pegheads.



lukemercier.com/violjo.htm



If you're concerned with steel string tension you can easily install Pegheds tuners which have the identical look of a standard wood friction peg but incorporate a 4:1 ratio planetary gear reduction and friction clutch.


Edited by - rudy on 08/25/2019 08:25:34

Culloden - Posted - 08/25/2019:  08:37:47


I have seen a violin peg box on a banjo complete with scroll but I can't seem to find the picture of it now. Here are some other ideas to toss around.





 

davidppp - Posted - 08/25/2019:  12:06:34


Virtually every zither banjo has a pegbox (albeit without the scroll).  Here are two old English 6-string banjos: banjohangout.org/archive/305705 and file:///Users/davidpolitzer/De...gout.html



I guess those are all guitar-type rather than violin-type.

gbisignani - Posted - 08/25/2019:  12:21:23


culloden.....I own a "bnajitar" that has a peghead just like the one you pictured on the right. It has a violin type head with guitar tuners and has that little square piece of wood at the end of the curl on the peg head. Where did you find that picture. I cannot find any info on mine. I bought it from a guy in Romania. The whole thing is kind of a mess. The tuners don't hold, I can't figure out how the neck is attached. It's a metal pot with a dowel inside that looks like it might be just an ornament !! The action is so high the instrument can't really be played.

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