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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: What are some recommended YouTube videos for newbies


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freight - Posted - 07/26/2019:  18:00:37


Hope it’s okay I made a new thread.

So I got an RK dirty 30s, the model with the tone ring, for whatever that matters.

Wondering if there are any recommended YouTube videos? I’ve never played an instrument so this is all new to me - even just strumming is difficult!

I’m really stoked to be here and super happy this forum exists, thanks to all of you for the tremendous help and guidance already :)

mfranzdorf - Posted - 07/26/2019:  18:42:27


Jim Pankey, a member here , has the best lessons I’ve found.

Mooooo - Posted - 07/26/2019:  18:48:37


If you can get a live teacher, that will be the best way to learn, but if you can't do that, then Brainjo is a great method to learn clawhammer if that's what you're into. I started picking clawhammer about 4 or 5 years ago and that's what I used. It stuck, I am still frailing and am happy with my progress even though I am not frailing 100% of the time. I am mostly a Scruggs picker, but it's nice to pick clawhammer on songs too...take your time and go through these videos slowly, don't breeze through them because learning the basics well will keep you from making mistakes in the future and you won't have to relearn any bad habits. There are 8 videos to get you started. Good luck.

Bill Rogers - Posted - 07/26/2019:  18:54:04


Tom Collins’s Banjo Blitz is a good starter.

 



m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...kEcmL1OQA

kirbonite - Posted - 07/26/2019:  19:03:37


If you really know nothing at all.. The Danny Barnes series starts at absolute zero. goes into everything.. How to get comfortable holding the banjo.. everything.. you can move on to the other suggested videos as well.

I notice recently that there are even some videos on how to use the pentatonic scale etc.. this is more of a guitar approach very useful IMO.

RG - Posted - 07/26/2019:  19:52:32


You might find these videos helpful from David Bragger, an amazing OT musician and instructor who does Skype lessons. Don't let the speed of the songs fool you, David really knows how to break down and teach a tune...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar3bkLux3-g&t=73s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExLjl_4MrIQ&t=48s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfo6_9K_O6U&t=56s



I like Chris Berry's video's too if you like fingerstyle banjo, here Chris does 2 finger thumb lead and Dock Boggs style... this is a fun style to play and Groundhog is a real easy one to learn...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXRooshOGuc&t=6s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3KjogQxFs0&t=175s



And here's a CH video from Chris...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZvGhy1OmM



Happy banjo journey!

nightingale - Posted - 07/26/2019:  20:26:31


There were several players I liked that helped me get into the clawhammer style after years on guitar. They were: Meredith Moon, John Curtis has some great medleys, Hunter Robertson (pretty amazing), Mike Iverson and Dwight Diller, oh, and Adam Hurt. These people were just for listening and getting into how clawhammer should sound. I did also watch vids on how to do it.

To go further, I bought Wayne Ebson's Clawhammer for the Ignoramus - this had simple tunes I could learn and then he showed how to embellish them with double thumbing and drop thumbing.

There are so many books and videos to learn from.

Winged Words - Posted - 07/26/2019:  22:21:43


For inspiration rather than "how to do it" here's some of my You Tube favourites:

Janet Burton
Jack Beuthin (both stalwart contributors to BHO)

Lucas and Eden Pool (look for Ozark Banjo Co - they also do video lessons)

Adam Hurt ("Clawhammerist")

Brad Kolodner

Hunter Robertson

Don't forget the video and mp3 libraries in the media section here on BHO and follow up all the links on the Tune of the Week series - that's an education in itself.

Tom Collins' Banjo Blitz is a really valuable technical supplement to other starter courses. I'm at a sort of post-novice level and use bits of it every day.

Enjoy your adventure.

AndyW - Posted - 07/26/2019:  23:01:09


Here are links to Dan Levenson's(Clawdan ) series of beginner video's featured in the hangout:

banjohangout.org/lessons/video...sp?id=235
banjohangout.org/lessons/video...sp?id=247
banjohangout.org/lessons/video...sp?id=260

I would also recommend digging hand in pocket for the few dollars that would buy you Dan's 'Clawhammer Banjo from Scratch' book which pretty much runs hand in hand with those videos.

Here is a link to Tony Spadero's(oldwoodchuckb ) videos, which links in with his free RocketScienceBanjo pdf.

rsb.pricklypearmusic.net/rsbvideos.html

Here is a link to the RSB site, download the booklet as a zip by clicking the top right link once on the page.

rsb.pricklypearmusic.net/

AndyW - Posted - 07/26/2019:  23:10:27


Be aware that it takes a fair bit of time for clawhammer to click in and you will need to perservere through that initial stage. I blogged my beginner stuff quite extensively on here, have a read if you like.

banjohangout.org/my/AndyW/7#blog

mdthib - Posted - 07/27/2019:  05:34:00


Yeah, just watch great players and let that help you catch the bug. I really enjoyed Adam Hurt, Cathy Fink, Walt Koken, and Dwight Diller when I was starting, and they're all on YouTube. Supplement that with a face-to-face lesson or hang at a local jam, and/or Skype lessons or just YouTube instructional videos. But keep both the music and the learning happening. Welcome to the world of clawhammer!


Edited by - mdthib on 07/27/2019 05:34:55

thisoldman - Posted - 07/27/2019:  06:40:45


I'll throw a couple other ideas out there for clawhammer instruction: brainjo (already suggested) and clearhead



And keep an eye out on Mike Iverson's site banjoutah.com/  as that will be well worth the wait once it's updated.  



 


Edited by - thisoldman on 07/27/2019 06:44:14

jcintn - Posted - 07/27/2019:  09:38:09


Jim Pankey,Jim Pankey,Jim Pankey oh yea JimPankey LOL

Bill Rogers - Posted - 07/27/2019:  10:15:41


The op posted in the clawhammer/Old-time forum, and has an openback banjo, so I don’t understand why several posters have listed links to bluegrass instruction videos. That could be confusing for a beginner.

Astrobanjo - Posted - 07/27/2019:  13:27:33


My mistake Bill---I'm not sure how to delete my post, but if you can please do.



Done—BR


Edited by - Bill Rogers on 07/27/2019 21:56:25

6stringedRamble - Posted - 07/27/2019:  13:54:20


That's a good question. I'll have to check out this vids myself. Even though I've been playing for a while I think I need to work on exercises. Patrick Costello does tons of stuff, and Hillary Burhans, as does a channel called play better banjo

Chris Meakin - Posted - 07/27/2019:  23:03:05


You've already been given some very good leads.



I'd like to add Clifton Hicks - he does 2 finger as well as clawhammer.



Lots of free lessons, plus very affordable lessons via patreon.



youtube.com/watch?v=HwoPcG6dQjA

6stringedRamble - Posted - 07/28/2019:  09:26:51


quote:

Originally posted by AndyW

Be aware that it takes a fair bit of time for clawhammer to click in and you will need to perservere through that initial stage. I blogged my beginner stuff quite extensively on here, have a read if you like.



banjohangout.org/my/AndyW/7#blog






I also had the experience, where I struggled with anything I tried to play for about 2 years. Then one day the notes more or less began to flow from my hands, though I'm still far from a pro.

freight - Posted - 07/28/2019:  18:47:40


quote:

Originally posted by Chris Meakin

You've already been given some very good leads.



I'd like to add Clifton Hicks - he does 2 finger as well as clawhammer.



Lots of free lessons, plus very affordable lessons via patreon.



youtube.com/watch?v=HwoPcG6dQjA






Lots of suggestions here are awesome, thank you very much everyone.



 



i like this Hicks guy a lot, extra thanks to you for the recommendation!

AndyW - Posted - 07/29/2019:  00:15:10


Just so you are aware, he is teaching via the bum-ditty method, and there is an alternative way of starting out which is double thumbing.

Bum Ditty is Note - Pause - Strum - Thumb

Double Thumb is Note - Thumb - Note(or strum) - Thumb

Many advise starting with double thumb as it's easier to switch into a bum-ditty from double thumbing, but more difficult to go the other way. Basically it's easier to leave something out (the first thumb note) already learned than add something in, and it's more intuitive to get that thumb 'home' on the fifth string every time if you start by double thumbing. It's also easier to learn to drop thumb early via the double thumb route, something which tends to become a 'perceived' difficulty if you learn via the bum ditty method.

JSB88 - Posted - 08/01/2019:  11:31:07


quote:

Originally posted by RG

You might find these videos helpful from David Bragger, an amazing OT musician and instructor who does Skype lessons. Don't let the speed of the songs fool you, David really knows how to break down and teach a tune...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar3bkLux3-g&t=73s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExLjl_4MrIQ&t=48s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfo6_9K_O6U&t=56s



I like Chris Berry's video's too if you like fingerstyle banjo, here Chris does 2 finger thumb lead and Dock Boggs style... this is a fun style to play and Groundhog is a real easy one to learn...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXRooshOGuc&t=6s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3KjogQxFs0&t=175sAnd here's a CH video from Chris...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZvGhy1OmM



Happy banjo journey!






Always happy to put in a plug for Chris Berry. His Groundhog was how I leaned my first banjo tune, and if I could pick it up with 0 experience or natural aptitude, anyone can.

Jimbeaux - Posted - 08/01/2019:  13:10:43


I opened this thread just to like whoever posted about Hilarie Burhans, but no one has yet.

So please check out Hilarie Burhans on Youtube. Her earlier videos might be best for a beginner.

Beogg - Posted - 08/09/2019:  07:44:33


quote:

Originally posted by mfranzdorf

Jim Pankey, a member here , has the best lessons I’ve found.






I agree. I'm a fairly new banjo player and I've found his lessons very easy to follow.

nightingale - Posted - 08/09/2019:  20:42:41


Being a guitar fingerpicker, learning clawhammer took a lot of practice - playing all downstrokes just went against everything I had ever played - which had always been upstrokes. It was a total relearning. I started just with the simple bum ditty - and thought I would never get it. It was relentless practice every evening for a few months. Then, it just started to happen, then double thumbing started to come naturally, then the drop thumb - as my instructor told me (he's quite well known in central Ohio), that for a guitar player, its a steep learning curve, but once you get it, the sky's the limit. I did find it a steep learning curve - but so worth it.



People have given you great people to listen to and learn from. You just have to immerse yourself in it for awhile. I have a couple of people who I listen to in the car to and from work. Some of my favorites have digital downloads on bandcamp.


Edited by - nightingale on 08/09/2019 20:46:34

DC5 - Posted - 08/10/2019:  05:49:01


It's not free, but well worth the price. Kathy Fink's TrueFire lessons are awesome. She is a great teacher, especially at the beginner level, and each lesson includes play along videos both in slow and up to speed. I found them invaluable. They are running a sale now (they are always running sales) and I think the download version is around $20. More if you want the DVD sent to your home.
truefire.com/banjo-lessons/cla...nner/c672

Sunwhite - Posted - 08/19/2019:  19:26:17


I agree, Kathy Fink's gets a big thumbs up from me, well worth the few dollars required even over here where the poor Aussie dollar is worth little more than half the US dollar.

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