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jan dupree - Posted - 03/24/2019:  15:04:52


youtu.be/pB-gfu3TQp0My daughter told me this is the latest hot group among people in their 20's. I had never heard of them. They will all probably be millionaires in the next couple of years, and the rest of us will still be trying to master Pike County Breakdown.


Edited by - jan dupree on 03/24/2019 15:09:40

ClawJam - Posted - 03/24/2019:  19:26:51


so is it a 2-3 slide, or a 2-4 slide on PCB?

jan dupree - Posted - 03/24/2019:  20:30:06


All I know is. I'm letting those guys know I'm available if for some reason their banjo player gets another job. But he is probably laughing at us all the way to the Bank saying "While you guys are going to banjo camps, joining online banjo course websites, taking Skype lessons, buying instruction books and courses, trying to play half as good as Earl Scruggs and J.D. Crowe, I'm making thousands of dollars, backing up some singers in Nashville, recording CD's with some forward and backward rolls I learned from a youtube video, and beginner instruction book,

jan dupree - Posted - 03/24/2019:  20:32:17


quote:

Originally posted by ClawJam

so is it a 2-3 slide, or a 2-4 slide on PCB?






They will never know the difference. Or better yet, they won't even care. That video already has over 2 million views. There other videos have even more views. It also looks like in a later video Deering has supplied him with a High End model.


Edited by - jan dupree on 03/24/2019 20:46:50

bobscene - Posted - 03/25/2019:  02:23:49


His playing suits their music. I don't see anything wrong with that.

ClawJam - Posted - 03/25/2019:  09:20:22


jan dupree That was my awkward way of agreeing with you!

jan dupree - Posted - 03/25/2019:  10:22:56


quote:

Originally posted by bobscene

His playing suits their music. I don't see anything wrong with that.






 Traditional Bluegrass of Earl Scruggs and J.D. Crowe is waning. Young people don't even know who Scruggs and Crowe are. Just look around at the Traditional Bluegrass Festivals, there is nobody there under 45. If you want to be able to make a good living playing the banjo, modern Americana or Progressive Bluegrass is the way to go. And you don't have to be some kind of highly skilled anomaly to make good money at it. Just some intermediate playing skills, and a good ear for music is all you need. We can keep the banjo alive into the next generations. Most of the top players of the 50's 60's and 70's barely made enough money to buy a house and raise a family, and they were the best in the World.

jan dupree - Posted - 03/25/2019:  10:25:52


quote:

Originally posted by ClawJam

jan dupree That was my awkward way of agreeing with you!






Yeah, I know. I added the 2 million views to back up my point. Pike County Breakdown tutorial videos might have 2000 views.

bobscene - Posted - 03/26/2019:  11:05:00


Young people don't want the same thing played the same way over and over.

Scruggs brought in a new and distinct way of playing banjo which took off at the time because it was novel. People loved it and emulated it. Nowadays everyone has heard that way of playing and associate it with some old fogie banjo playing.

Judging by the video you've posted, that band is inspired by Mumford and Sons which is the current hip way to play banjo. Give it a while and it would just sound typical and boring.

So in the future some banjoist will figure some other way to play banjo to keep it fresh, people will think that's cool and copy that.

Cycle continues!

jan dupree - Posted - 03/26/2019:  12:16:10


quote:

Originally posted by bobscene

Young people don't want the same thing played the same way over and over.



Scruggs brought in a new and distinct way of playing banjo which took off at the time because it was novel. People loved it and emulated it. Nowadays everyone has heard that way of playing and associate it with some old fogie banjo playing.



Judging by the video you've posted, that band is inspired by Mumford and Sons which is the current hip way to play banjo. Give it a while and it would just sound typical and boring.



So in the future some banjoist will figure some other way to play banjo to keep it fresh, people will think that's cool and copy that.



Cycle continues!






Earl Scruggs actually attempted to take the banjo in the modern direction we see today. That is mostly why he split with Lester Flatt. I guess the time was'nt right and he could'nt quite pull it off. From the recordings I have heard of him, he kept too much of the Traditional Classic sound in his playing. The Progressive groups of today have never heard that sound, so they are not influenced by it, and are therefore able to take the banjo and "Bluegrass" to the next level and into the future.

Old Hickory - Posted - 03/28/2019:  14:54:56


quote:

Originally posted by jan dupree

The Progressive groups of today have never heard that sound, so they are not influenced by it, and are therefore able to take the banjo and "Bluegrass" to the next level and into the future.





I don't hear the player in the video taking banjo to any level beyond where it is today.  Expanding the horizons of music that's played on bluegrass instruments and elevating the art of playing those instruments are two very different things.



I thought they were pleasant sounding enough. But this group strikes me as one more that's greater than the sum of its parts. A group of just OK musicians who together make some very good music.



I completely realize that one of your points is that the musicians in these new generation groups -- including others such as Mumford and Sons, Trampled by Turtles and I forget who else -- don't have to be virtuosos on their instruments. Heck, from what I've heard they don't even have to be competent.



In my opinion, the way these groups keep acoustic music and acoustic instruments alive is that some of their fans who hear them will take up the instruments, want to learn how they're really played and will go on to make real contributions that advance the art.

John Gribble - Posted - 04/22/2019:  03:47:12


It is a nice lick, a good hook for a pretty song well sung. True, it doesn't sound like 1949, or even 1979. But it is now 2019.

Texican65 - Posted - 04/30/2019:  09:38:47


I'm 36....and do not particularly care for this group or this genre of music....but...I am happy to see the banjo roll is being done by a person over and over again...and not just a recording and repeated by a machine....like so many groups do today. I'm happy/jealous that their doing successful...I'd quit my day job any time to be able to do what they are.

Grizzly Adams - Posted - 04/30/2019:  12:13:17


I think his playing style fits the music very well. Interesting group!

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