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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: St.Louis Blues


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davidcava - Posted - 03/01/2019:  17:01:27


Hey.....can we make this song of the month? Even if you can't lay it down until July......can we put something down on vid? Some sounds.....some four string/ or five/sounds? I just want to hear you gals and guys play. Is this a good song to work on? a little playing?....a little singing? I've not heard many of you sing.......I would love to hear your voices. I just want to listen.....I don't want to play. Is Jazz, as in banjo playing, related to your voice? When you all play....are you singing what you play in your head? I'm always working on this......and have not achieved it as of present. I tend to go off into space in what I'm playing....depending on who I'm playing for.....and where I'm playing. I'm just throwing it out here. This place has grown quiet, and I need some sound.

aintbrokejustbadlybent - Posted - 03/01/2019:  17:25:49


I’ve been working on this tune the last week or so. I think this is one of the must know songs that should be in our repertoire. While I might sing it it comes with the warning of Careful what you ask.

davidcava - Posted - 03/01/2019:  17:34:48


I would love it Mike.

mike gregory - Posted - 03/01/2019:  17:42:30


I remember reading somewhere that W.C. Handy used to be homeless, and slept on the levee, so he really DID hate to see the evening sun go down.

Could be fact, could be fiction.

Anybody know for sure, feel free to fill in the details.

Zachary Hoyt - Posted - 03/01/2019:  19:07:56


I like to sing that song, though I don't do it well. I don't know if I've ever done it with a banjo, but it sounds like something fun to try. If I get something halfway suitable I'll make a video.
Zach

Omeboy - Posted - 03/01/2019:  19:13:26


Just for the record, "St. Louis Blues" was the "song of the month" back on 03/20/2016. But maybe we'll hear some new versions.

davidcava - Posted - 03/01/2019:  19:14:35


Way Cool Zach!

davidcava - Posted - 03/01/2019:  19:19:31


You have one hell of a memory Paul!.......I have to cut down on my alcohol intake.......Lets play it again Sam!

parlour player - Posted - 03/01/2019:  20:15:06


Here is 1928 Lead sheet of St Louis Blues

check out the great artwork !


davidcava - Posted - 03/01/2019:  20:24:50


Way Cool Jan!

hoodoo - Posted - 03/02/2019:  08:37:47


Its one of my favorites. One of the tunes that has prompted me to try and learn the tenor

Don Lewers - Posted - 03/02/2019:  21:03:06


Here's a clip, just in case you have'nt seen it, of Louis Armstrong and The All Stars featured with the New York Philharmonic, conducted by Leonard Bernstein...... you can read all about it on the Show More. I always look forward to Louis beautiful 2 bar answer at 5.07, it's magic. Good luck everybody, Don.

 



.................................... ''Saint Louis Blues'' ................     youtube.com/watch?v=ekZ6oUGC04k

 


Edited by - Don Lewers on 03/02/2019 21:05:22

Veerstryngh Thynner - Posted - 03/03/2019:  04:09:20


I developed my tenor banjo technique in the mid-to-late 1970s. Personal computers, internet and multitrack home-recording still some twenty years off. But my parents owned a cheap record player and a very modest collection of records. One of these contained St Louis Blues as tenor banjo solo.



I spent weeks, if not months, painstakingly reconstructing that solo. Just by ear. Note for note, phrase by phrase. Not resting until I had it completely nailed.



About half a century on, I can still play it in my sleep. No other tune I can think of that shaped my banjo technique as much as that solo did.



Many years later, I met the performer a couple of times. His instrument still the very one of that St Louis Blues solo.  A Vega, I believe, with a very narrow fingerboard, and incredibly high action. The owner allowed me to give it a try. But try as I may, I didn't get any sound out of it.



My sole regret is that I never thought of asking him about the practicalities of that solo, at the time. And remedying this is impossible since the man passed away, several years ago.



Veerstryngh Thynner

davidcava - Posted - 03/03/2019:  05:26:08


I'd love to hear you play that solo VT!

Cool clip Don.....what I wouldn't get to have been in the front row.

On Jan's sheet music of St. Louis blues, do any of you play piano? I would love to hear that sheet played on piano if you can record it somehow.

Veerstryngh Thynner - Posted - 03/03/2019:  06:39:55


David,

There's another way of sorting this.

Someone in your circle of friends may have notation software on their PC. There's also notation software freely available online, I believe.

Print out Jan's PDF score. You need to copy this manually. There's just no other way. But inserting notes in your notation software score should be quite straightforward. When done, just click on the Play button - and there you go.

Veerstryngh Thynner

Dogface - Posted - 03/10/2019:  09:12:38


I love this tune and play it all the time. I'll see if I can make a video for this page

majesty - Posted - 03/10/2019:  14:01:35


Thank You Don for that video of Louis with Leonard Bernstein. It led me to Louis Armstrong with Kid Ory, Johnny St. Cyr and the All Stars. Type in "Louis Armstrong Mark Twain Showboat" for a real treat of Bourbon St. and Muskrat Ramble. Time: 10:31 version.

CGDA - Posted - 03/11/2019:  12:51:37


Hi everyone!



That's the mother of all the banjo versions of SLB. I'm pretty sure you know it...wink



youtu.be/xDMRPtRq44g



Marco

Omeboy - Posted - 03/11/2019:  13:48:47


Eddie's Dot album version of SLB is so much better. He had clearly honed it to a fine edge over the years.

davidcava - Posted - 03/12/2019:  10:21:16


Alright....I'll throw the first one up, since nobody has started it rolling yet. I've been picking the 5 for a few weeks, had some nice gigs, but now back to strumming the 4.


johnstephen - Posted - 03/12/2019:  10:39:50


Great recording, David! Good chords, good bounce, and a fun ending. I really liked it. My schedule has gotten busy lately, but I'm hoping that maybe next week things will slow down a bit and I'll be able to take a shot at this song. Thanks for diving in and posting this. It's a beaut!

davidcava - Posted - 03/12/2019:  10:43:16


Thanks John.... Can't wait to hear your version!

Dogface - Posted - 03/12/2019:  11:49:39


Wow David...that was awesome !!

davidcava - Posted - 03/12/2019:  12:57:34


Thanks Mark...I hope you put your version down too!

Dogface - Posted - 03/12/2019:  13:51:23


David: I will as soon as I can remember how ....I really have forgotten ?

Emiel - Posted - 03/13/2019:  12:31:11


I remember that Saint Louis Blues was tune of the month before. I probably then already posted this video clip, I really can't remember.



I play it live on a five-string banjo in a finger-picking style, but I only used the four long strings, never the 5th string. Ali on the guitar is supporting me:

 




Edited by - Emiel on 03/13/2019 12:31:49

davidcava - Posted - 03/13/2019:  12:35:55


Sounds great Emiel! Thanks for putting it back up.

hobogal - Posted - 06/03/2019:  03:57:46


Abit late posting this! I have been learning this one with the help of lessons from Steve Caddick!   youtube.com/watch?v=CNkYh-Xpad...=youtu.be



 

Emiel - Posted - 06/03/2019:  08:11:49


quote:

Originally posted by hobogal

Abit late posting this! I have been learning this one with the help of lessons from Steve Caddick!   youtube.com/watch?v=CNkYh-Xpad...=youtu.be



 






Nice! Not an easy arrangement…

Veerstryngh Thynner - Posted - 06/03/2019:  14:01:21


Referring to my earlier post in this thread.



The performance of SLB I largely owe my style to was by Arie Ligthart, of Dutch Swing College Band fame. It was part of a DSC sport stadium concert (Sportpalast Berlin) in, I think, 1961. A clip of Arie Ligthart's solo, in full, should be available on YouTube.



Can't provide a link, unfortunately, since for online connection I only have an Android.



Veerstryngh Thynner

Don Lewers - Posted - 06/05/2019:  16:38:18


Good onya' Carrie, your playing's soundin' sweeter with every posting!. ..... Don.

hobogal - Posted - 06/06/2019:  11:54:01


Ah thanks Don - still a bit scrappy but I like to post progress videos!

Don Lewers - Posted - 06/06/2019:  17:52:26


quote:

Originally posted by Veerstryngh Thynner

Referring to my earlier post in this thread.



The performance of SLB I largely owe my style to was by Arie Ligthart, of Dutch Swing College Band fame. It was part of a DSC sport stadium concert (Sportpalast Berlin) in, I think, 1961. A clip of Arie Ligthart's solo, in full, should be available on YouTube.



Can't provide a link, unfortunately, since for online connection I only have an Android.



Veerstryngh Thynner






Tracked down the link to Arie Ligharts Tenor Banjo performance V T, here it is ........... youtube.com/watch?v=CuYtEGH-RuE ........ Don.


hobogal - Posted - 06/06/2019:  23:30:52


That's brilliant - thanks for sharing Don. Smooth tremolo! My dad had an old LP by the Dutch Swing College Band (his only jazz record) called 'Party Favourites'.

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