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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Volume Control or No?


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NolaJesse - Posted - 12/21/2018:  16:20:46


I'm deciding between the Schatten BJ-02 (W/out Volume Control) and the Schatten BJ-02 PRO (W/ Volume Control). The cost is second to the potentially cumbersome size of the PRO. The application will be a full modern country/rock band. I am getting the LR Baggs Para dI Preamp as well. So I'm wondering if Volume Control is even something that will get used. I'm new to playing in a band situation and especially new to playing live with sounds guys and what not, and am figuring they'd rather you not mess with the volume too much. Any thoughts? Thanks!

plars - Posted - 12/21/2018:  16:54:10


I just sent you a private message.

rudy - Posted - 12/21/2018:  17:18:24


Hi Jesse,



My experience with any piezo transducer (not limited to this brand...) is they don't work well with a volume control unless there are active electronics included.  It's the nature of the piezo material that causes the incompatibility with a volume control.  The volume control will work, but it's not linear and difficult to control the actual level of the instrument.  They work mostly as a pop-less off / on control.



If you haven't used a piezo you might find the sound not to your liking.  Almost any other type of transducer will provide far better sound, and many folks who play plugged in opt for the Fishman / Jones style of pickup.



Yes, If you will be playing venues with someone running sound then give them your maximum signal and let them do their thing.  It won't be to your liking from a stage perspective, but the front of house is really what it's all about.  You're going to find that banjo is a very difficult thing to have a very high volume level in the monitors.  It's an instrument designed to create feedback!  wink

NolaJesse - Posted - 12/21/2018:  22:17:55


Thanks for the response rudy . That definitely helps. Someone else also mentioned the benefit of being able to tune quietly, which makes sense. I will have to take a look those other brands before I make a choice. Thanks again for the input.

rudy - Posted - 12/22/2018:  14:14:17


quote:

Originally posted by NolaJesse

Thanks for the response rudy . That definitely helps. Someone else also mentioned the benefit of being able to tune quietly, which makes sense. I will have to take a look those other brands before I make a choice. Thanks again for the input.






HERE is the Fishman / Jones pickup.



In your situation if you're playing banjo exclusively you could probably get away with not having a volume control, but it is true that it's very nice to be able to kill your signal to the PA so you can use a clip-on tuner.



I would recommend you feed your banjo signal to a floor preamp with a balanced DI to provide signal to the PA.  The ideal floor pre would have a mute function for silent tuning.  I used a multi-effect pedal for several years with a MUTE patch so I could kill the signal to the PA and switch instruments silently.  I had several patches labeled for each instrument and adjusted their volume in the patch so all the instruments were volume matched.  My patches were labeled for the instruments such as "LAP STL", "MANDO", etc.


Edited by - rudy on 12/22/2018 14:27:56

banjohood - Posted - 12/26/2018:  16:53:40


Skip the on-board volume, IMO. If you need a volume control, a volume pedal after the preamp is much better (that's what I do). Or a preamp with a mute switch like a Baggs Session DI.

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