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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: convert minidisc to MP3 ?


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spoonfed - Posted - 12/20/2018:  13:07:24


yes, having tried many different formats for using homemade backing tracks to support my live performances I settled a number of years ago on good old minidiscs, these have been great for clarity,reliability and, have suited my purposes up till recently. They are now becoming a trifle old and worrying so, my idea is to perhaps buy a dedicated mp3 player to put in my rack for gigs and, transfer all my tracks (in the hundreds) to a SDHC card or USB stick ? I have seen what looks to be a decent candidate for the job it is a Denon DN-F300. I am hoping to be able to store my backing on the card or USB stick and, just scroll through in perhaps alphabetical order or some other organised way yet to be determined and press to play like I currently do with my MD players (both top of the range Sony rackmount units) is this a plausible solution to my needs or is there another way ? how would I convert my discs into anything that would work in this way ? I see many solo guys using laptops or tablets clamped on their mic stands or music stands but, want to avoid anything so obvious so, prefer to keep it discreetly in my rack easily reached with my right hand and not too obtrusive. any ideas ? all gratefully received, thanks.

xnavyguy - Posted - 12/20/2018:  13:57:44


If your mini discs are standard audio music CDs you can rip them to your computer as MP3 files and then copy them to your memory card.

thisoldman - Posted - 12/20/2018:  14:51:30


Looks like the device you are looking at would do the job, just looking at the descriptions online. And a remote might deal with your concerns about being unobtrusive. I would ask if the song titles come up on the LED screen before buying, if that is important to you.

Actually, with putting files on a computer or storage device, one can easily copy/paste/move files around, so you could create any number of playlists (folders on your computer then transferred to the card or stick) ahead of time, which would minimize the work you would need to do while playing. Just hit play, pause when needed, repeat.

One suggestion I would make is to look into the audio editing progam Audacity. If is free and you can do a lot of things to maximize your recordings. Oh, and personally, I would go with cards for storage, as the stick hangs out of the device and you would have to deal with putting it in, removing it, and worrying about something bumping into it.

J.Albert - Posted - 12/20/2018:  15:26:29


I've done the same thing -- convert MDs to mp3's.

I'm on a Mac, if that makes a difference.



My workflow:

- Connect MD deck to computer (use either digital or analog connection)

- Use Audio Hijack Pro on the Mac (I set it up to record to mp3 using 256k)

- Start the MD playing and "let 'er go".

- Audio Hijack lets you set a time limit, so I'd set it to 76 minutes or 81 minutes, depending on the capacity of the MD.



If I needed to trim the mp3s when done, I used "MP3 Trimmer", which works with the native mp3 format files (instead of converting from mp3 to WAV, then trimming, then re-coding to mp3, which would result in lower quality).



I'm thinking this could also work with something like Audacity. Not sure if Audacity can do mp3, but if it can't, you could record to .WAV and then convert later.



Or... use any software that can record what the computer is playing (sound-wise). I'm sure they have this stuff for Windows, too.


Edited by - J.Albert on 12/20/2018 15:27:45

spoonfed - Posted - 12/22/2018:  04:31:31


thanks all for the replies, I have put out feelers to find out if the display shows current track info etc, should know in a day or two .

Veerstryngh Thynner - Posted - 12/22/2018:  05:24:21


I can confirm that Audacity handles MP3 as well.



Veerstryngh Thynner

J.Albert - Posted - 12/22/2018:  15:03:54


OP wrote:

"I have put out feelers to find out if the display shows current track info etc"



Do you mean, "show it on the mp3 player"?



The answer is almost certainly "no". That is to say, this info isn't going to get "carried over in the conversion".



If you want that info displayed (on the mp3 player), you're going to have to re-enter it yourself once the tracks are converted.

rudy - Posted - 12/22/2018:  17:35:45


quote:

Originally posted by J.Albert

OP wrote:

"I have put out feelers to find out if the display shows current track info etc"



Do you mean, "show it on the mp3 player"?



The answer is almost certainly "no". That is to say, this info isn't going to get "carried over in the conversion".



If you want that info displayed (on the mp3 player), you're going to have to re-enter it yourself once the tracks are converted.






Probably, but not absolutely.  A lot of the formats today hold metadata and I'm surprised by it sometimes when doing conversions.  It's also possible that tracks that are "ripped" from one form to another will be populated with title, artist, etc. automatically if the device is connected to the internet.  When I rip CDs the information almost always is imported from an on-line database which adds all the title / artist data.



I recently did a conversion of CD to mp3 and all the related data came over to the mp3 file and was displayed in my car.  The conversion was done on a computer that has no internet connection and the details were held in the CD metadata within the actual file.

J.Albert - Posted - 12/22/2018:  18:15:40


Mike ...



That's true of media that you can mount on a Mac or a PC.



But it's going to be problematical to get a Mac or PC to recognize a minidisc as a "mountable volume" which can be accessed by software that might be capable of ripping it to another format. Nearly all MD players/decks have no provision for connection to a computer, other than the normal "audio out" ports (analog and digital). I vaguely recall a very few MD decks that were designed to connect to computers "as a drive", but try and find one today.



Seems to me there used to be software that gave Windows users some kind of access to MD. But that was years ago.



That would leave a limited vector by which to "extract" the audio on MDs.

I've done it by connecting my MD deck to an iMac and using Audio Hijack to capture the audio "in real time". But that only captures the audio itself, it can't bring in metadata that is in the TOC (table of contents) on the MD.



That works just fine for getting the audio.

But you still have to give each captured file a name (etc.) after it's been captured/converted...

thisoldman - Posted - 12/22/2018:  19:50:27


I suggested looking at whether the title of the tune would show up on the LED screen because I was thinking of it just shows something like "File 1", or maybe just a track number. if you were scrolling through to find a specific tune while on a gig it could be challenging to find the specific tune you were looking for.

And one of the things you can do with Audacity is input that metadata (title, artist, track #, etc.) when you save your file.

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