jaydog - Posted - 11/07/2012:  16:45:06

Hi folks,

Has anybody tried to record a tabledit file for slow playback, say you want to burn onto a disk or, can slow it down to learn new licks. I've tried the method described within the tabledit software only to playback a wav file with no sound, any advice would greatly help, as the folks who maintain the software are not responsive... JAYDOG.

dpetervan - Posted - 11/07/2012:  18:30:45

You can slow a tabledit file as much as you want by simply clicking on the speaker icon on the toolbar and adjusting it all you want.......then play or export the MIDI at the desired speed.  Or just use the tabledit file for playback....adjusting the playback speed all you want.

Not sure if you are trying to do something else, but it really works great...

kmwaters - Posted - 11/07/2012:  18:32:17

I don't use Tabledit to do what you want. I use Transcribe. I think it may run you around 40 bucks but it's awesome. Slows down a song without any change in pitch.

For editing, cutting out song sections and things, I use the free Audacity program. I learned how to cut unwanted portions out of a sound file on this program before I owned Transcribe, but the Transcribe program can probably trim and cut as well. The big value for me in Transcribe is the slow down while maintaining pitch. I think you can take it all the way down to about 25% of normal speed. But there are little icons to click on for different speeds like 25, 35, 50 etc. Excellent.

jcland - Posted - 11/07/2012:  19:27:03

What I think jaydog is talking about is being able to record the audio output from TablEdit so you CAN use any of the various slowdown programs without using TablEdit. The problem is is that TablEdit plays MIDI files. I have never been able to get the program to sucessfully export to a WAV file and have any audio contained in that file. If you use the TablEdit command File-Export-Export Wav, it is supposed to create a WAV file as the TablEdit tef file plays in the program. For me it always creates a WAV file but if you open that resulting WAV in say Transcribe or Cool Edit Pro or Adobe Audition and so on, the audio line is flat, thus no audio.

Every time TablEdit comes out with a new version, I give it a try but I have never been successful over many years of trying. It is like they keep a useless feature in the program the never works.

Personally I would love to hear a success story and find out exactly how you were able to get an actual working WAV file that actually contained audio exported . Many times I have found the need to e-mail a tabbed arrangement I created to someone. 

I currently am up to version 2.71 b6c and it still does not work correctly as it should.

kirbonite - Posted - 11/07/2012:  20:29:26

I like the backing tracks in tabledit way better than band in a box especially for midi but  can not bring the midi files into band in a box and if I do ... the cool instruments are gone.  

I've always wondered if I purchased the full version of tabledit  instead of TEFvies   If I could use it to simply create backing tracks

the way I practice with tabledit is simply,   view - midi options:   then you can change the tempo.. I like to slowly drop instruments out and then turn my back to the machine and practice along with the bassline.. works great.. right in TEFview..

janolov - Posted - 11/07/2012:  23:11:24

There are (free) software that converts midi files to mp3. Make a search on Google with "converting midi  to mp3"

jcland - Posted - 11/08/2012:  05:28:32

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There are (free) software that converts midi files to mp3. Make a search on Google with "converting midi  to mp3"

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I am not talking about converting a MIDI to a MP3. I need to convert a TEF file from TablEdit to WAV file.

TablEdit is supposed to do this but I have never been successful doing a direct export to a WAV file that actually contains audio.

Once I have a working WAV file, heck I can convert it into just about any sound format. That part is easy.

The problem is going from TEF to WAV.

Thats all.

janolov - Posted - 11/08/2012:  06:25:30

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Originally posted by janolov

There are (free) software that converts midi files to mp3. Make a search on Google with "converting midi  to mp3"

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I am not talking about converting a MIDI to a MP3. I need to convert a TEF file from TablEdit to WAV file.

TablEdit is supposed to do this but I have never been successful doing a direct export to a WAV file that actually contains audio.

Once I have a working WAV file, heck I can convert it into just about any sound format. That part is easy.

The problem is going from TEF to WAV.

Thats all.

 

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This is from the TablEdit manual (page 42). Are you doing exactly this way

jcland - Posted - 11/08/2012:  12:08:03

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Originally posted by jcland

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Originally posted by janolov

There are (free) software that converts midi files to mp3. Make a search on Google with "converting midi  to mp3"

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I am not talking about converting a MIDI to a MP3. I need to convert a TEF file from TablEdit to WAV file.

TablEdit is supposed to do this but I have never been successful doing a direct export to a WAV file that actually contains audio.

Once I have a working WAV file, heck I can convert it into just about any sound format. That part is easy.

The problem is going from TEF to WAV.

Thats all.

 

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This is from the TablEdit manual (page 42). Are you doing exactly this way

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Absolutely. Been in the computer field for over 32 years now.

Question: Have you been able to successfully export to a  WAV file and have you been able to have the WAV file play back audio from say Media Player on an PC? I have not been successful as of yet.

Keep in mind that these instructions are way out of date if you have a  Windows OS later then XP since any MIDI setup ability was removed starting with VISTA and continuing right up into Windows 8.

Edited by - jcland on 11/08/2012 12:42:42

janolov - Posted - 11/08/2012:  12:33:03

I have managed to get a MIDI from the TablEdit file (exporting from TablEdit). Then I found some free software that could convert the MIDI file to MP3, That worked even if the sound was a little odd. I haven't tried to export an WAV file yet, I haven't needed it. When I play along with a TablEdit file I just play the midi file, where I can adjust the speed easily so I haven't seen the need to make more sound files from TablEdit.

jcland - Posted - 11/08/2012:  12:45:19

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Originally posted by janolov

I have managed to get a MIDI from the TablEdit file (exporting from TablEdit). Then I found some free software that could convert the MIDI file to MP3, That worked even if the sound was a little odd. I haven't tried to export an WAV file yet, I haven't needed it. When I play along with a TablEdit file I just play the midi file, where I can adjust the speed easily so I haven't seen the need to make more sound files from TablEdit.

 

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I just installed TablEdit on my laptop running XP and it does export fine into a playable WAV file. It does not work at all under Windows Vista or Windows 7. Probably because Microsoft messed with the MIDI functions as mentioned earlier.  At least I can make it work on the laptop.

MickG - Posted - 11/08/2012:  12:59:31

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Originally posted by jcland

What I think jaydog is talking about is being able to record the audio output from TablEdit so you CAN use any of the various slowdown programs without using TablEdit. The problem is is that TablEdit plays MIDI files. I have never been able to get the program to sucessfully export to a WAV file and have any audio contained in that file. If you use the TablEdit command File-Export-Export Wav, it is supposed to create a WAV file as the TablEdit tef file plays in the program. For me it always creates a WAV file but if you open that resulting WAV in say Transcribe or Cool Edit Pro or Adobe Audition and so on, the audio line is flat, thus no audio.

Every time TablEdit comes out with a new version, I give it a try but I have never been successful over many years of trying. It is like they keep a useless feature in the program the never works.

Personally I would love to hear a success story and find out exactly how you were able to get an actual working WAV file that actually contained audio exported . Many times I have found the need to e-mail a tabbed arrangement I created to someone. 

I currently am up to version 2.71 b6c and it still does not work correctly as it should.

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I have exported from TablEdit to .wav files many times with no problem. The resulting wave file can be played in Windows or any other program that plays standard .wav files. My computer is an old PC with Windows XP.

Here is what works on my computer. In Windows XP,  double-click the speaker icon at lower right, which opens up the Play Control window, click "Properties", then select the "Recording" button and "OK" which opens up the Recording control window. Then select "wave" as the recording source. Then perform the export audio with TablEdit.

Note: I have tried selecting "MIDI" as the recording source but that doesn't work. The resulting exported file appears to be a .wav file but will not play.

Another method is while playing the tab with TablEdit, simultaneously record the audio with appropriate software such as SoundForge, etc.

Hope this helps.

Mick

jcland - Posted - 11/08/2012:  13:19:31

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Originally posted by jcland

What I think jaydog is talking about is being able to record the audio output from TablEdit so you CAN use any of the various slowdown programs without using TablEdit. The problem is is that TablEdit plays MIDI files. I have never been able to get the program to sucessfully export to a WAV file and have any audio contained in that file. If you use the TablEdit command File-Export-Export Wav, it is supposed to create a WAV file as the TablEdit tef file plays in the program. For me it always creates a WAV file but if you open that resulting WAV in say Transcribe or Cool Edit Pro or Adobe Audition and so on, the audio line is flat, thus no audio.

Every time TablEdit comes out with a new version, I give it a try but I have never been successful over many years of trying. It is like they keep a useless feature in the program the never works.

Personally I would love to hear a success story and find out exactly how you were able to get an actual working WAV file that actually contained audio exported . Many times I have found the need to e-mail a tabbed arrangement I created to someone. 

I currently am up to version 2.71 b6c and it still does not work correctly as it should.

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I have exported from TablEdit to .wav files many times with no problem. The resulting wave file can be played in Windows or any other program that plays standard .wav files. My computer is an old PC with Windows XP.

Here is what works on my computer. In Windows XP,  double-click the speaker icon at lower right, which opens up the Play Control window, click "Properties", then select the "Recording" button and "OK" which opens up the Recording control window. Then select "wave" as the recording source. Then perform the export audio with TablEdit.

Note: I have tried selecting "MIDI" as the recording source but that doesn't work. The resulting exported file appears to be a .wav file but will not play.

Another method is while playing the tab with TablEdit, simultaneously record the audio with appropriate software such as SoundForge, etc.

Hope this helps.

Mick

 

 

 

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As i just stated, it works just fine under XP but not under Vista, Windows 7 and just now I tried Windows 8 on my 2nd Desktop PC with the same results. Looks like it is a  OS problem rather then a TablEedit problem.

banjo_brad - Posted - 11/08/2012:  13:41:47

Sounds like MS strikes again.

jaydog - Posted - 11/08/2012:  18:31:28

Jaydog here,



Thanks to all who posted on this topic, guess for now my family will have to put up with banjo noise from upstairs as well!



Tabledit has a support blog for folks who own a copy of the software, so I'm shakin' that tree also...Keep pickin... 

howsy-bee - Posted - 11/11/2012:  02:11:52

I'm puzzled. I have Windows 7 and can export Tabledit to .wav without any problem. It plays in VLC player, Quicktime player, Windows Media Player, iTunes... The only thing is, the instruments sound a little different than in Tabledit.

Hans

jcland - Posted - 11/11/2012:  06:19:53

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I'm puzzled. I have Windows 7 and can export Tabledit to .wav without any problem. It plays in VLC player, Quicktime player, Windows Media Player, iTunes... The only thing is, the instruments sound a little different than in Tabledit.



Hans

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You using the internal built in sound or something other then what came stock with your computer.