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mishe mokwa - Posted - 02/23/2012:  06:02:10


So I started playing tenor guitar before the banjo. I recently had to sell my five string on which I played claw hammer. I've recently been tuning the tenor guitar I own to dgbd since I'm more familiar to that tuning. I know that some plectrum banjo players tune to dgbd too. Does anyone know of any good instruction books on plectrum tuning using open G instead of the standard CGBD? I've always been interested in learning some early jazz style, swing music. Maybe even some Texas swing and jump blues. Ive seen some tenor guitar players play this music beautifully in both DGBD and CGBD and also of course CGDA.

Anyone know where I can start? So far Ive been trying to learn some swing guitar stuff (Charlie Christian) but something isn't clicking. Thanks.

Fathand - Posted - 02/23/2012:  06:13:20



I used a Kalamazoo Tenor Guitar tuned DGBD  to help teach myself to sing (still working on that). You are probably best to use a plectrum string set or 1st 4 strings of a guitar set.  You might consider using Chicago tuning DGBE and using a Baritone Ukulele chord chart. There is a lot of Jazz material for ukes out there. Your other choice is to find 5 string Jazz material and work around ignoring the 5th string information.


MarkRB - Posted - 03/11/2012:  09:21:13



I am thinking of getting a tenor guitar and since I play my banjo in open G (gDGBD) I thought maybe I could do the same with the guitar (DGBD). What issues might come from that? If any. How about using a capo? Now I am not against using the standard tuning for the tenor but was wondering.


minstrelmike - Posted - 03/11/2012:  11:09:54



No books. But I would say just do the chords to _familiar_ songs first.



The key is to take small steps.

Play the chords to at least 20 different songs. (I prefer 100).

If you have already played some other instrument, then do the chords to _every_ single song you ever learned on that first instrument. (This requirement usually demonstrate to many folks that they don't actually know songs, they just 'know' fingerings.)



Once you have chord changes to songs you yourself could actually recognize if they were played well, try playing the songs well. Use different chord voicings (placements) and see if you can get the melody to express itself on the 1st string. This is easier than it sounds at first.



Note that if I show you the exact fingerings for any song, all you've got is the song, not the knowledge of how to find and finger the next songs. that's why you start with simple, familiar songs. Children's songs. Campfire tunes. Pop songs you yourself actually listened to in high school. If you didn't listen to dixieland or bluegrass while growing up and cannot _already_ hum the songs, then don't start with those genres even if that's where you want to end up.



Start with familiar tunes. Start with simple 3-chord ones.



In a basic 1-4-5 tune, the collection of chords forms the major scale so every note of the major scale can be played on the 1st string while chording one of the 3 important chords. Worry about being able to play the entire collection of chords in a song first, then try finding the melody. Don't start with melody then try to add chords. That's the back half of the program.



here are some songs you might want to try first: moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/songs/index.html

and here is some chord lead stuff in openG tuning using Christmas songs: moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/speci...tml#banjo



and once you can play a few tunes around the campfire good enough, the next step is to work your way thru a fakebook of jazz tunes, playing the chords first then figuring out the melody. That requires reading music but tha'ts just as easy as reading tab: moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/readm...ndex.html



Edited by - minstrelmike on 03/11/2012 11:12:10

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