banjotom2 - Posted - 12/08/2010:  10:48:40

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Someone wrote me last night... inquiring about how to add the "T, i, & m" fingerings to their own Tabledit arrangements...

I set up a 'tutorial' Tabledit file to help those in need...

It has 'step-by-step' instructions... you're right there in a tabledit file... so, it should be fairly clear...

Any questions... post them here...

Follow Link to tutorial:

hangoutstorage.com/banjohangou...22010.tef


Tom

banjotom2.com

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Edited by - banjotom2 on 12/08/2010 11:13:01

tbfnyc - Posted - 12/08/2010:  12:26:19

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You can use the "Fingerings" palette. Right-clicking on a "finger" gives the right hand fingering (T I M etc.) and left-clicking puts the left hand fingering in a little circle (useful for special fingerings).

You can add several at once. For instance, you can select all of the notes on the 5th string by dragging or with the shift key and then right-click on the little thumb inside the fingerings palette and all the notes on the 5th string will be marked with a little 'T'.

WesBrown - Posted - 12/08/2010:  13:02:32

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Aha. Thank you so much TBFNYC. I saw the palette but could not figure our how to make it work.
Now I know where to play with it.
Is there a way to turn the printing of the fingerings on and off, or once you include it in the tab is printing automatic ?
Thanks

Wes

tbfnyc - Posted - 12/08/2010:  16:14:28

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Originally posted by WesBrown


Is there a way to turn the printing of the fingerings on and off, or once you include it in the tab is printing automatic ?
Thanks

Wes

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If there is a way, I can't find it. I don't think you can turn fingerings on/off in printing.

What you could do is have two versions. Put the fingerings in last but before you do, save the file. Then put your fingerings in and save under a different name. That way you can have it both ways, with & without. Those .tef files take up almost no room on your hard disk so it's not a big deal.

WesBrown - Posted - 12/09/2010:  07:56:39

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Thanks Jack. Out of curiosity, in the "Pick Notes & Fingerings" window there are two options: T 1 2 3 4, and T I M A O.
I got the T 1 2 3 4. I got the T I M. But where on my right hand is an A or an O ?

Wes

WesBrown - Posted - 12/09/2010:  16:32:09

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Well, OK. I thought I finally had it figured out that A meant "anchored" (or "available" in the case of Noem Pilkeny who does some 4-finger rolls I read), and O meant "out-of-service", being as the pinkie is generally the anchor and if you used it for anything else your hand would drift out of position. I would have thought T I M R P would have been the logical alternative.
Software developers always seem to find some reason why a user has to "read the book" rather than be totally intuitive. That would be too easy, and their boss might think they got paid too much for something a 7th grader could have written..

Tabledit already has a symbol for a "brush" on the staff rather than for fingering.

Thanks for the help
Wes

tbfnyc - Posted - 12/09/2010:  16:49:52

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Originally posted by WesBrown

Well, OK. I thought I finally had it figured out that A meant "anchored" (or "available" in the case of Noem Pilkeny who does some 4-finger rolls I read), and O meant "out-of-service", being as the pinkie is generally the anchor and if you used it for anything else your hand would drift out of position. I would have thought T I M R P would have been the logical alternative.
Software developers always seem to find some reason why a user has to "read the book" rather than be totally intuitive. That would be too easy, and their boss might think they got paid too much for something a 7th grader could have written..

Tabledit already has a symbol for a "brush" on the staff rather than for fingering.

Thanks for the help
Wes

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Okay, well here's a theory. Tabledit was written in France and the word for the ring finger in French is "Annulaire", so that may be what the 'A' stands for. Unfortunately, the word for the little finger - Auriculaire - also begins with an 'A'. My guess is that the word would be pronounced as if it began with an 'O', i.e. "o-rick-u-laire". So maybe because the 'A' was already used for the ring finger he went with the 'O' for the pinky. Just a theory.

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Edited by - tbfnyc on 12/09/2010 16:51:11

WesBrown - Posted - 12/09/2010:  17:01:40

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So, using that theory of ring finger being "Annulaire" and little finger being "auriculaire", I can presume the middle finger would be "anusaire" and that's why that finger is used vertically to project displeasure to others beyond voice range ?

OK with me. Sounds as reasonable for a theory as any other. Problem solved. Merci beaucoup and au revoir.

Wes

tbfnyc - Posted - 12/09/2010:  17:03:11

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Originally posted by WesBrown

Well, OK. I thought I finally had it figured out that A meant "anchored" (or "available" in the case of Noem Pilkeny who does some 4-finger rolls I read), and O meant "out-of-service", being as the pinkie is generally the anchor and if you used it for anything else your hand would drift out of position. I would have thought T I M R P would have been the logical alternative.
Software developers always seem to find some reason why a user has to "read the book" rather than be totally intuitive. That would be too easy, and their boss might think they got paid too much for something a 7th grader could have written..

Tabledit already has a symbol for a "brush" on the staff rather than for fingering.

Thanks for the help
Wes

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You can change that. Just go to File|Options and choose the Preferences tab. There you can change the fingers to anything you want. Instead of T I M A O you could change them to T I M R P or even G H C G Z for Groucho, Harpo, Chico, Gummo, & Zeppo.

WesBrown - Posted - 12/09/2010:  17:46:28

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By golly, Greg, that works too. I think I now know more about fingerings than I need to know. It really does seem like a sort of useless function (all those options for getting finger designations above, in, or below a staff), although Jack's way is easier than the Text Manager. There really is only 1 thumb and 2 fingers to deal with, and it shouldn't take a computer program to figure out which one goes where. I mean, these guys that use the thumb on the 1st finger and the middle finger on the 4th string on the same roll are way out of my league.
Jack, are you saying if I change the code for which finger is which, a "default" gets messed up? Don't tell me there is an automatic fingering program that makes a guess at which finger should go where? Most rolls are pretty easy to figure out I don't see any point in putting fingering notation in a whole tab, just those few measures that might present a problem.