speedtheplow - Posted - 07/17/2008:  17:23:03

---

What are a couple of your favorite OT waltzes? And where can one find them?

Dave

---

Edited by - gottasmilealot on 08/06/2008 14:40:18

J-Walk - Posted - 07/17/2008:  17:29:16

---

Cherry Blossom Waltz, by Tony Ellis. It's a solo banjo tune on the "Masters of the Banjo" CD.

Southwind, by many people -- including Mary Z. on her "Walkin' That Banjo Home" CD.

RedZinger - Posted - 07/17/2008:  17:44:25

---

Are we talking waltzes specifically or any 3/4 time tunes?
Rob

rinemb - Posted - 07/17/2008:  17:45:01

---

I really enjoy fiddle waltz tunes. 3 I play are Southwind (Mary Z Cox CD) Midnight On the Water (Blue Sage Trio website) and Westphailia Waltz (maybe Bluesage as well, we used to play it as a western swing tune). Brad

May not the incidence of success, nor the pretense of retirement-
Lessen the want of enlightenment.

rinemb - Posted - 07/17/2008:  17:47:19

---

Rob, you throw some of us for a real Zinger! Please explain? Brad

May not the incidence of success, nor the pretense of retirement-
Lessen the want of enlightenment.

RedZinger - Posted - 07/17/2008:  17:58:28

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by rinemb

Rob, you throw some of us for a real Zinger! Please explain? Brad

---

Hi Brad,
I've really enjoyed playing several 3/4 time tunes lately that I don't think of as waltzes:
Drunken Hiccups aka Jack of Diamonds: http://enyepa.110mb.com/drunken_hicupps.pdf
Pretty Saro
Ride an Old Paint

Are those waltzes? They're definitely 3/4 time.
Rob

---

Edited by - RedZinger on 07/17/2008 20:40:32

rinemb - Posted - 07/17/2008:  18:02:54

---

Rob, You must be another Tommy J. fan. Me too. I am going to work on that "Pretty Saro" one of these days. Can you offer a couple resources to hear that tune, again. Brad

May not the incidence of success, nor the pretense of retirement-
Lessen the want of enlightenment.

cockneybanjo - Posted - 07/17/2008:  18:10:31

---

Blue Danube.... never heard it on a banjo though

J-Walk - Posted - 07/17/2008:  18:35:21

---

Pretty Saro, sung by my favorite female human -- Iris DeMent (from Songcatcher):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ArylRGWME

Unfortunately, it's a widescreen video crammed into 4:3.

ScottK - Posted - 07/17/2008:  18:56:23

---

Unfortunately I don't know the name of one of my current favorites. I posted a recording of it on my BHO music page under the title "Name that Waltz" in hopes that someone can help me identify it.

I also like the Blackest Crow. I have a recording of that on my BHO music page too, but you'd be better off listenting to Walt Koken and Clare Milliner playing it on their "Just Tunes" CD. Or Cathy Fink on "Banjo Haiku" under the title "Time Draws Near".

Scott

tom clunie - Posted - 07/17/2008:  18:59:38

---

Southwind to Fanny Power as a medly. Songs - River, Down by the Brazos. TC

ScottK - Posted - 07/17/2008:  19:11:34

---

I forgot to mention Susquehanna Waltz by Neal Pressley. You can hear a sample of that from the CD of the same name by The Lonesome Stragglers over at CD Baby:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/lstragglers

Scott

Tamarack - Posted - 07/17/2008:  19:40:40

---

Midnight on the Water is at the top of my list, probably the first old-time waltz to work its way into my head.

I think it's a recent creation, but the Ookpik Waltz is also wonderful. Some fine recordings by the likes of Jay Unger/Mollie Mason and Altan.

RedZinger - Posted - 07/17/2008:  20:36:20

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by rinemb

Rob, You must be another Tommy J. fan. Me too. I am going to work on that "Pretty Saro" one of these days. Can you offer a couple resources to hear that tune, again. Brad

---

Yes, I'm definitely a TJ fan!

I like the Iris Dement version of Pretty Saro a lot, but Elizabeth LaPrelle's is very similar and really good. You can hear some of it hear:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/elizabethlaprelle2

It's on her Lizard in the Spring CD:

http://www.old97wrecords.com/elizab...le/index.htm

I highly recommend this CD. I've enjoyed it a lot lately. Some nice CH banjo on it too.

BTW I think Greensleeves is often played in 3/4 time (though RD has lovely version in 4/4).

Best,
Rob

---

Edited by - RedZinger on 07/17/2008 20:41:41

gailg64 - Posted - 07/17/2008:  22:24:42

---

Here are some of my favorites. They're not usually played clawhammer, but no reason not to!

Peekaboo Waltz (tommy jarrell, luther davis, kirk sutphin), Kiss Waltz, There'll Come a Time (Charlie Poole), Boatsman Waltz (Norman Edmonds), Old Rusty Mill (Melvin Wine), Black Hills Waltz (Kenner Kartchner), Coal Creek Waltz (Luther Davis, Alice Gerrard), Country Waltz, Italian Waltz (Lauchlin Shaw, Nance Family), Over the Garden Wall, Keys to the Kingdom (Melvin Wine), Where the Sweet Magnolias Bloom (Taylor-Griggs Louisiana Melody Makers), Red, White & Blue (Cush Holston), Green Valley Waltz, Ozark Waltz (Morrison Twins, Tom, Brad & Alice), Dream Shadows--or just about any waltz by the East Texas Serenaders or Leake County Revelers.
g

quote:

---

Originally posted by speedtheplow

What are a couple of your favorite OT waltzes? And where can one find them?

Dave

---

"Time is music" - Paul Sutphiin

patches - Posted - 07/18/2008:  04:57:03

---

Hmmmm, I like "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" by Hank Williams.... trying to write my own tab.... very slow, should be easy, just trying to find the right melody notes.

Enjoy your day!
Patches

dbrooks - Posted - 07/18/2008:  05:47:37

---

Westphalia Waltz was probably the first one I learned, and it turned me on to the joy of waltzes on the banjo. I also like to play Tombigbee Waltz, Sheebeg Agus Sheemore, Midnight on the water and Pers Polska. We play all of these in the contra dance band.

W recently began playing Tom and Sally's Waltz by Ken Waldman, Alaskan fiddler and poet. Our fiddler heard this tune Waldman's Music party CD and added it to the rotation.

David

jojo25 - Posted - 07/18/2008:  07:30:33

---

I love playing waltzes on the banjar...with fiddle and rhythm section

my current favs

Midnight on the Water
Otpick (sp.?)
Blue River...a Jay Unger/Molly Mason creation
Southwind
The Dancer...a wild one with a great gypsy feel
Storms on the Ocean (long live the memory of the Carter family!)
Mess of Cookies, (my butchering of the real name...can't remember how it is SUPPOSED to be spelled, it's Finnish, I think)
Margeret's Waltz

oops

gotta add

Bare Neccessities (no, not the one from the movie, silly!)
Southwind

Drop thumbs, not bombs

Joe

---

Edited by - jojo25 on 07/18/2008 07:37:07

chip arnold - Posted - 07/18/2008:  07:33:39

---

One favorite is Mockingbird Hill. I love waltzes.

**********************
Take what is given
Give what is taken

Chip Arnold

jojo25 - Posted - 07/18/2008:  07:48:05

---

dont' know if anyone has mentioned this yet

There is a series of 3 waltz books at...

http://www.bfv.com/waltz/

these are great sources for all you waltz lovers out there...standard notation...with a "suggested" chord progression (some of these I differ with)...with references for recorded sources and a bit of background on each waltz

all and all a great resource

Drop thumbs, not bombs

Joe

trapdoor2 - Posted - 07/18/2008:  08:37:43

---

Funny, I was going to mention those very waltz books. Great stuff there.

I never can remember the names of stuff. Midnight on the Water, Cabri Waltz come to mind though. They're as much fun to dance as to play...and don't try to get me to play none of them belly-rubbin' waltzes, 'cause I'm headed for the dance floor!

===Marc

"If banjos needed tone rings, S.S. Stewart would have made them that way."

chip arnold - Posted - 07/18/2008:  08:43:35

---

Henry Reed's Rockin' The Babies To Sleep.

**********************
Take what is given
Give what is taken

Chip Arnold

vrteach - Posted - 07/18/2008:  09:29:26

---

I play very few, none well.

But I'm really good at listening to waltzes. I just listened to Dbrook's Tombigbee Waltz--gorgeous.

Erich -- Tune unto others as you would have others tune unto you.

http://vrteach.org/banjo/

U of Illinois-Springfield Old Time Music

GerryH - Posted - 07/18/2008:  11:32:31

---

I'm partial to Shepherd's Wife Waltz as played by Mary Z Cox. I played it once as the bridal processional at a wedding. Quite lovely!
GerryH

---

Edited by - GerryH on 07/18/2008 11:33:31

oldwoodchuckb - Posted - 07/18/2008:  13:24:45

---

I'm bad at remembering titles but the name "Samolin Waltz" stickes with me. I'm not sure if it is the waltz we do in melodic minor or just one we started playing around the same time.

If you are interested in what I say and would like to know more, it ony cost the price of an email. Write me at:
oldwoodchuckb@yahoo.com
and I will send you a copy of the entire Rocket Science Banjo with all the text now in PDF, plus all the exercise tabs and jpgs as well as "25 tunes" (which is now up to about 38) in banjo tab, playable with the MIDI built into your computer, so you can play along at whatever speed you choose to set.
put RSB in the subject line.
I neither keep nor re-use your email

You can watch the videos for some Rocket Science Banjo subjects starting here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRuf4X0X7g
Banjo Brad is hosting How To Mold A Mighty Pinky adn other material at
http://home.thegrid.net/~fjbrad/id20.html

banjo_brad - Posted - 07/18/2008:  14:26:10

---

One I haven't heard as a banjo waltz (in fact, I haven't heard it since I danced it in a Junior College Folk-dancing class in the '60s), is "Blackhawk Waltz." I'd love to find a banjo or fiddle tab or notation for it!


Brad
------------------
www.PricklyPearMusic.net
http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/5/ My ezFolk page
http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/3371/ Tucson Old Time Music Circle page on ezFolk
http://www.totmc.org Tucson Old Time Music Circle Homepage

maryzcox - Posted - 07/18/2008:  14:54:12

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by GerryH

I'm partial to Shepherd's Wife Waltz as played by Mary Z Cox. I played it once as the bridal processional at a wedding. Quite lovely!
GerryH

---

Yes--Gerry--I think that would be lovely for a wedding. We were just playing that waltz at the John C. Campbell school. I tried a waltz with the class this year and they immediately picked right up on it and were plaing it beautifully by Thursday. :)
Now--our niece, Megan, announced her engagement in March at Bob's BD party and the first thing she said after showing the ring, was
"Uncle Bob and Aunt Mary--will you play that #2 song at our wedding?"
No waltz for her--she wants "John Stinson's # 2. "

Best wishes always,
Mary Z. Cox

www.maryzcox.com
If you suspect you need a new banjo--you do. Trust your musical instincts. If a banjo calls to you to buy it, don''t fight destiny. It was meant to be. :)

BrittDLD1 - Posted - 07/18/2008:  21:21:31

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by tom clunie

Southwind to Fanny Power as a medly...

---

Sorry, Tom...

But that medley is just begging for some bathroom humor --
about the effects of beans on the human digestive system...



Best-
Ed Britt

••• A good fiddle tune will bring two or more people together who might otherwise be enemies. •••

Don Borchelt - Posted - 07/19/2008:  05:05:17

---

Midnight on the Water for me, but I also like O'Carolyn's Shebag Shemor, and I do pick and sing Pretty Saro, too. All good 3/4 tunes. Brooks has inspired me to learn Westphalia Waltz, I really like his rendition.




"A man without ethics is a wild beast loosed upon this world." - Albert Camus

Check out my webpage.

Debbielee - Posted - 07/19/2008:  05:24:18

---

Has anyone heard of "Cowboy Waltz". It's my new favorite!

Debbielee

patches - Posted - 07/19/2008:  08:12:18

---

Hmmmmm, cowboy waltz..... do you have a "tab" or do you have it as a song file??

Enjoy your day!
Patches

Debbielee - Posted - 07/19/2008:  09:53:13

---

I'll see if I can find a recording of it. It's really beautiful! No tab, sorry.

Debbielee

gailg64 - Posted - 07/19/2008:  10:14:47

---

I have heard & played this one for years & years but never knew where it came from . Still don't know the source, but I tracked it down to the New Lost City Ramblers. Not sure where they got it, but it sounds similar to the popular Wed. Night Waltz. Wherever it came from "Cowboy Waltz" is a great tune & I love the NLCR version with the mandolin & twin fiddles. G
There's an mp3 of it on rhapsody:

www.rhapsody.com/thenewlostc...svol219631973

quote:

---

Originally posted by Debbielee

I'll see if I can find a recording of it. It's really beautiful! No tab, sorry.

Debbielee

---

"Time is music" - Paul Sutphiin

oldtimer - Posted - 07/20/2008:  10:34:16

---

My favorite is Gerard Dole's La Mazurka de la Louisiane. Most of us have seen the film sequences before, but it is amazing how they synchronize with and enhance Gerard's music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdQQsfT1Us

stay tooned....
Glenn Godsey

"Time passes unhindered"

chip arnold - Posted - 07/20/2008:  12:13:00

---

Glenn, what tuning do you use for that? I worked it out in C/C capoed to E flat. What a beautiful tune.

**********************
Take what is given
Give what is taken

Chip Arnold

oldtimer - Posted - 07/20/2008:  12:51:56

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by chip arnold

Glenn, what tuning do you use for that? I worked it out in C/C capoed to E flat. What a beautiful tune.

**********************
Take what is given
Give what is taken

Chip Arnold

---

I don't play it on banjo, Chip. I play it on fiddle in AEAE and Mike plays banjo in straight A tuning. I also play it on cajun accordion in C. It is a very moving tune for me because the film takes me back to my childhood. Those people look like my relatives from my childhood in the dustbowl.

stay tooned....
Glenn Godsey



"Time passes unhindered"

dbrooks - Posted - 07/20/2008:  14:40:04

---

Glen,

Thanks for the great video. What a wonderful and amazing images.

David

Bill Rogers - Posted - 07/20/2008:  17:18:11

---

"Midnight on the Water" -- Benny Thomasson's is my favorite version.

Bill

oldwoodchuckb - Posted - 07/21/2008:  15:03:46

---

I had forgotten about "Lonesome Midnight Waltz" which might be the same as "Lonesome Moonlight Waltz". I'm not sure. At any rate it has a nice use of the melodic minor mode in the B part.

If you are interested in what I say and would like to know more, it ony cost the price of an email. Write me at:
oldwoodchuckb@yahoo.com
and I will send you a copy of the entire Rocket Science Banjo with all the text now in PDF, plus all the exercise tabs and jpgs as well as "25 tunes" (which is now up to about 38) in banjo tab, playable with the MIDI built into your computer, so you can play along at whatever speed you choose to set.
put RSB in the subject line.
I neither keep nor re-use your email

You can watch the videos for some Rocket Science Banjo subjects starting here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRuf4X0X7g
Banjo Brad is hosting How To Mold A Mighty Pinky adn other material at
http://home.thegrid.net/~fjbrad/id20.html

BANJOJUDY - Posted - 07/21/2008:  15:12:26

---

If Sonny's Mazurka is considered a waltz, it gets my vote.

+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
My husband made the mistake of musing to me that
the new necklace we were contemplating purchasing
was more than a new banjo would cost. I got the Chuck
Lee Vintage Prairieville banjo and he didn''t get a new
necklace!
+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

dbrooks - Posted - 07/22/2008:  05:59:43

---

We play Sonny's Mazurka occasionally at our contra dances. Our fiddler must share some DNA with someone in your area because we had a similar conversation about Puff Adder Stepdance a couple of weeks ago.

David

Chickenfeathers - Posted - 07/22/2008:  07:33:09

---

There is a cajun waltz I can't get out of my head called "Jolie Joues Rouges" Its haunting and heavy, and kinda bluesy. I'm trying to work it out on banjo, but it may just be better suited for fiddle. Check it out on Masgnolia Sisters "Cheres Amis" and the Pine Leaf Boys "Blues de Musicien"

BANJOJUDY - Posted - 07/22/2008:  18:04:45

---

Actually I am at fault for bringing Sonny's Mazurka to the jams here in ABQ (Albuquerque). I first heard it on a Klezmer album of Andy Rubin's and I really liked it. Then I heard it on a Mary Z. Cox album and that reaffirmed my fondness for the tune.

One day it was just there in my head, so I began playing it and I love the piece. I also enjoy Puff Adders Step Dance. I actually enjoy most of the pieces I can play well and even those I cannot play well or at all.

I wonder if your fiddlers know our fiddlers - most likely - this is a small world, after all, but I sure wouldn't want to clean it!

Judy

+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
My husband made the mistake of musing to me that
the new necklace we were contemplating purchasing
was more than a new banjo would cost. I got the Chuck
Lee Vintage Prairieville banjo and he didn''t get a new
necklace!
+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

BANJOJUDY - Posted - 07/22/2008:  18:07:42

---

I have several versions of Cowboy Waltz in my collection. Look for one by the New Lost City Ramblers - that is who I first heard playing it.


+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
My husband made the mistake of musing to me that
the new necklace we were contemplating purchasing
was more than a new banjo would cost. I got the Chuck
Lee Vintage Prairieville banjo and he didn''t get a new
necklace!
+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

MWBailey - Posted - 07/22/2008:  20:01:35

---

Most waltzes put me to sleep.

A notable Exception is the Carousel Waltz from the movie/show Carousel.

Otpik Waltz? oddly enough, I hav eyet to see three or more people agree on the proper spelling or pronunciation of that one A few more usual forms:
Ootpik
Ockpick
OkPik
Og pick
I kid you not...

MWB

Been Playin'' Since 2002...And boy, are my arms tired...

BANJOJUDY - Posted - 07/29/2008:  15:33:07

---

Hubby just brought in today's mail and there was a little stack of new cds. One was The Lover's Waltz cd with Jay Unger and Molly Mason.

There is nothing on that cd NOT to like. Everything is beautiful.

Today, my favorite waltzes are found on this album and include:

The Lover's Waltz duet
The MIsty Dawn
The Mountain House
THe Contradance (The Road We Traveled/The Wizard's Walk)
Legends of the Fall
The Lover's Lament
Prairie Love Song
Louisiana Wedding Bells
THe Montague Processional
Give Me Your Hand
There's Honey on the Moon Tonight
MEtsakukkia
CHosen Challe Mazeltov
Tiptoe Alley
It's All In Your Mind
The Lover's Waltz

+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
My husband made the mistake of musing to me that
the new necklace we were contemplating purchasing
was more than a new banjo would cost. I got the Chuck
Lee Vintage Prairieville banjo and he didn''t get a new
necklace!
+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

black flag - Posted - 07/29/2008:  19:10:42

---

I don't think I could play a waltz on the banjo if my life depended on it, but Tony Ellis's "Cherry Blossom Waltz" is a beauty. The Orpheus Supertones play it on on one of their cds.

Chris

Tune it all you want--at the end of the day it''s still a banjo.

BANJOJUDY - Posted - 07/31/2008:  20:58:26

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by patches

Hmmmmm, cowboy waltz..... do you have a "tab" or do you have it as a song file??

Enjoy your day!
Patches

---

Here's a link to a video with audio I posted a while ago of my two friends playing Cowboy Waltz. I hope you like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZhkQvR4OME


+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
My husband made the mistake of musing to me that
the new necklace we were contemplating purchasing
was more than a new banjo would cost. I got the Chuck
Lee Vintage Prairieville banjo and he didn''t get a new
necklace!
+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

dbrooks - Posted - 08/01/2008:  18:48:53

---

Patches asked about a tab for "Cowboy Waltz." Following the links provided by Judy and Gail, I have tabbed out a version of "Cowboy Waltz." This is a new tune to me, and I am grateful for the folks in this thread pointing it out. Since it is a new tune for me, however, I am not totally sure of the tab. The tune in Judy's video (with Wayne Shrubsall) has some variations when compared to the New Lost City Ramblers version on Rhapsody. I tried to follow the NLCR version, but I sometimes find that my listening improves a lot a week or two after I have learned or tabbed a tune and then I may make some changes.

I'd be happy to share this tab, and I hope that you will provide me feedback if I have some of the melody incorrect. Send me an email if you'd like a copy of the tab.

David