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stratovarious520Players Union Member

United States
141 posts
since 12/13/16

08/12/2017 17:10:31 View stratovarious520's MP3 Archive View stratovarious520's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

My wife and I brought our daughters here for a "weekender".  The girls wanted to see the boy band "Why Don't We".  I didn't really want to go to the show, and we couldn't afford the extra ticket anyway.  Not a big deal.  As my wife and daughters left they were subjected to stares and low volume comments from non-local (out of country) workers who were situated around the pool.  Again not a major deal.  I did escort them to the car and after they left one of the guys had the gall to motion at the leaving vehicle and toward me and say something with questionable intent so I say "*%#•<#$ those are my daughters...back off".  Went back to the room and thought it would be cool to post a version of " Nashville Skyline Rag" because of the locale.  As soon as I started to play with picks people were walking by and kicking the door.  I know I'm not great, but hey, have some tolerance.  I just quit.  I also sent a message to my wife to let me know when they get back so I can escort them back to the room.  



Haven't been to Nashville in about 20 years...sure ain't the place I remember.  Glad I'm not in L.A.


stratovarious520Players Union Member

United States
141 posts since 12/13/16

08/12/2017 17:26:08View stratovarious520's MP3 Archive View stratovarious520's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

 



Forgive me...I have nothing against LA or Nashville either...just a small town farm boy in a big city...fish out of water syndrome.  No offense to the indigenous people of either city...just disappointed at groups of humans who feel the need to torment .



I hope this is the right forum... I didn't mention I was playing Nashville Skyline on banjo 



 



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Don Borchelt

United States
6905 posts since 11/4/05

08/12/2017 17:30:20View Don Borchelt's MP3 Archive View Don Borchelt's Photo Albums View Don Borchelt's Blog Reply with Quote

It seems to me that rude, sexist behavior has suddenly become more common and acceptable of late, just about everywhere.  I have no idea why.

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stratovarious520Players Union Member

United States
141 posts since 12/13/16

08/12/2017 17:34:43View stratovarious520's MP3 Archive View stratovarious520's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

quote:

Originally posted by Don Borchelt

 

It seems to me that rude, sexist behavior has suddenly become more common and acceptable of late, just about everywhere.  I have no idea why.







Acceptable?  Not so much by me Don.  I'm old school and I'm ready to protect my family.  But I agree it's everywhere.



 


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Dave Churm

Canada
26 posts since 7/24/07

08/12/2017 18:32:20View Dave Churm's MP3 Archive View Dave Churm's Blog Reply with Quote

My wife and I just visited Nashville, first time for her, second time for me in twenty years. Found parking and rooms expensive. Stayed at a Red Roof . It was OK, nothing special. but seemed like on the verge of a very rough area.
Was recommended a BBQ place down the road, suppose to be #1, I would put it at 10.
It was a visit on a business trip, would I do it again? No
Better enjoyable places to visit in NC, SC, North Eastern TN, Kentucky etc. Love the people there. Always treated me Great. From a Canadian Eh!

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stratovarious520Players Union Member

United States
141 posts since 12/13/16

08/12/2017 19:07:06View stratovarious520's MP3 Archive View stratovarious520's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

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Originally posted by Dave Churm

 

My wife and I just visited Nashville, first time for her, second time for me in twenty years. Found parking and rooms expensive. Stayed at a Red Roof . It was OK, nothing special. but seemed like on the verge of a very rough area.

Was recommended a BBQ place down the road, suppose to be #1, I would put it at 10.

It was a visit on a business trip, would I do it again? No

Better enjoyable places to visit in NC, SC, North Eastern TN, Kentucky etc. Love the people there. Always treated me Great. From a Canadian Eh!







Hey, I'm from Kentucky.  I agree.  I try to treat folks with respect wherever I go.  Doesn't mean we'll always get the same treatment in return.  Overall a fairly pleasant trip however.  Heading to Pigeon Forge tomorrow...hope it goes better.


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ceemonster

1322 posts since 4/10/05

08/12/2017 22:49:29 Reply with Quote

I don't understand why you are miffed that your fellow paying guests didn't want to hear you playing the banjo. I too have been asked not to play an instrument in a hotel where I'm sharing space with other paying customers. There was nothing wrong with my playing, but I didn't find it offensive at all. It's called, the social contract. It is they, who felt you were not being considerate.



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250gibson

United States
1430 posts since 2/10/03

08/13/2017 06:41:47 Reply with Quote

That scenario could have happened in any hotel, anywhere. Has nothing to do with Nashville. You can't  judge a place if you don't leave the hotel. 


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stratovarious520Players Union Member

United States
141 posts since 12/13/16

08/13/2017 07:24:06View stratovarious520's MP3 Archive View stratovarious520's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

It really wasn't about the playing so much as the drunk guys acting offensively towards my wife and daughters.  And I'm 99.9% sure the guy that kicked the door was the same one I spoke up to earlier.  It takes more than one party to have a contract.


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Bill Byler

United States
155 posts since 10/24/13

08/13/2017 07:25:35View Bill Byler's MP3 Archive View Bill Byler's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

I moved to the Nashville area in Aug. 2001.  If i would have moved here for the Music,  I would not have stayed a week.

Not much love for Bluegrass here.  

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stratovarious520Players Union Member

United States
141 posts since 12/13/16

08/13/2017 07:27:38View stratovarious520's MP3 Archive View stratovarious520's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

quote:

Originally posted by 250gibson

 

That scenario could have happened in any hotel, anywhere. Has nothing to do with Nashville. You can't  judge a place if you don't leave the hotel. 


Yeah I know...I alluded to that earlier.  Just venting I guess.




 


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The Old Timer

United States
10036 posts since 10/30/08

08/13/2017 08:31:11View The Old Timer's MP3 Archive View The Old Timer's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

I've visited Nashville since 1983 (saw Charlie Cushman at the Station Inn that first time!) and Nashville has sure changed a lot. However, in its defense, there are pools and hotels in "dodgy" parts of town in EVERY city. I once stayed in a Ramada on the outskirts of Nashville (Dickerson Rd) where I was AFRAID. Wrote Ramada HQ a letter about it. Other than that, have never had a bad experience, day or night. Currently other than the traffic and crowds, I have no complaints about Nashville, and hope to go back this fall. It's good to check your hotel and touring plans with some local friends, to avoid the dodgier areas.

Try Nashville again sometime.

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darloPlayers Union Member

United Kingdom
80 posts since 3/4/12

08/13/2017 12:17:41View darlo's MP3 Archive View darlo's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

it really saddens me that you get inexcusable behaviour from idiots that drink and can't handle it ,beer in brains out, what on earth happened to good manners' think some people see it as a weakness to say please, thank-you or sometimes nothing at all its same in uk unfortunately

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banjo bill-e

United States
6855 posts since 2/22/07

08/13/2017 12:47:49View banjo bill-e's MP3 Archive View banjo bill-e's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

I first moved here in '73 and have been here full time since '84, and a LOT has changed. We used to be an overgrown small town. Now we are a city, with typical city problems. I am told that 30K people move here every single year. Traffic is horrendous. I used to see familiar faces at every concert or club. Not anymore. The downtown area has gone full-on party central and caters to masses of loud drunks. The music you will hear will be country-flavored rock, played very loud. So many familiar landmarks have been torn down and so many new buildings have gone up, seemingly overnight, that I feel like a stranger in my own town.
I'm glad that I was here in the better years, and the place seemed magical for awhile, but it's getting time for me to move on.
But if you want to drink and holler and "honky tonk", well, this is your place!

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banjo bill-e

United States
6855 posts since 2/22/07

08/13/2017 12:53:11View banjo bill-e's MP3 Archive View banjo bill-e's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

And about visiting----well, this place has gotten expensive and if you not paying a high price for your hotel then you will not be in a good part of town, or else you will be out of town. I would pay up or go somewhere else, but for instance, I would never stay at any place on Dickerson Road. If an area looks sketchy, then it probably is! During a busy time, which is almost all of the time, that means over $200/night, and it's not that hard to hit 3. THEN they want $30 to park you car for the night!

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Bill Byler

United States
155 posts since 10/24/13

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The Best thing about middle TN is the Beautiful Scenery and the climate.  FABULOUS!!!

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stratovarious520Players Union Member

United States
141 posts since 12/13/16

08/13/2017 13:17:53View stratovarious520's MP3 Archive View stratovarious520's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

You are so right about the traffic...we hit town right at 5pm Friday and it was crazy.  And at Rocket Town where the concert was they did indeed want $30 to park.  My wife (little firecracker that she is) said "oh hell no" went to the adjoining lot and paid just $3 😄.  No sign of my foreign friends this morning.  Only took about 2 minutes to get back on I-40.  Very pleasant.  Not much traffic at all until we got to Knoxville.  I never intended to be dogging Nashville...just disrespectful drunk people.  I'm from laid back small town USA and am apparently too grouchy to travel in my old age.


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steve davisPlayers Union Member

United States
65210 posts since 5/9/07

08/13/2017 13:26:49View steve davis's MP3 Archive View steve davis's Classified Ads View steve davis's Photo Albums View steve davis's Blog Reply with Quote

I don't like densely populated places.
Nothing against any particular city...just too many people.

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Tractor1

392 posts since 9/12/16

08/13/2017 13:58:37View Tractor1's MP3 Archive View Tractor1's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

I was there last time  ibma that was there. On the way home I stopped for a soft drink .It was all lit up I was right at my motel's block.I came out got in my car and forgot to turn my lights on ,did not need them even though it was night time.Had to go down and come back to get across to the hotel entrance.Well I came upon the light and there was an accident there.The cops pulled me over and grilled for a good half hour one then the other.I was straight as the day I was born.A 150 pound young one figured I should be as capable as some assanine squatting movement as him.If he had put 80 pound sack on his back we would have been even.They went up the chain of command acting nasty, seeming to want me to act nasty back.Asked me if was on any medication,damn glad I could answer no,They finally had to give up and let me go.

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Tractor1

392 posts since 9/12/16

08/13/2017 14:01:27View Tractor1's MP3 Archive View Tractor1's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

Enjoy eastern tennessee Greg ,some great driving vistas there.

A few of those old flat tarpaper nails that land upside down can be pushed with a toe up under a tire.


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JReb

United States
151 posts since 6/4/05

08/13/2017 15:08:33 View JReb's Classified Ads View JReb's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

Nashville has become a slum like New Orleans.

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ceemonster

1322 posts since 4/10/05

08/13/2017 22:20:57 Reply with Quote

You said "workers." Do you mean, working at the hotel? Regardless of whether the offensive people were working at the hotel, I would go straight to the hotel management with a complaint, a specific description of the gross stuff that was said, a description of the offenders, and a demand that the establishment put a stop to it. Maybe a phone pic, too. And double for that if they were laborers working at the hotel.

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stratovarious520Players Union Member

United States
141 posts since 12/13/16

08/14/2017 06:21:19View stratovarious520's MP3 Archive View stratovarious520's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

quote:

Originally posted by ceemonster

 

You said "workers." Do you mean, working at the hotel? Regardless of whether the offensive people were working at the hotel, I would go straight to the hotel management with a complaint, a specific description of the gross stuff that was said, a description of the offenders, and a demand that the establishment put a stop to it. Maybe a phone pic, too. And double for that if they were laborers working at the hotel.







No they didn't work at the hotel.  Just out of town construction workers I presume.  And it wasn't worth trying to track down someone from the office.  I couldn't really hear the comments but from the gestures I pretty well knew what was being said.  They heard me though...may not have been in their native tongue but they heard.  Looking back I may have acted foolishly but I never was one to just walk away...especially when my family is involved.  


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alfiedog

United Kingdom
886 posts since 9/18/09

08/14/2017 06:22:43 View alfiedog's Classified Ads View alfiedog's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

I was there 8 year's ago in November for my brother in laws wedding, it was pretty scary. Visited Ernest Tubb's record shop and parked 2 blocks away it was getting dark as it was late afternoon asked the guy behind the counter if it would be safe to walk back to the car his reply was " I wouldnt leave it any later, we used to sell t shirts with the logo NASHVILLE WHERE THE WEAK ARE KILLED AND EATEN" my wife was in a real panic, but we got back to the car safe, the only incident was a black guy who looked just like Eddy Murphy in trading place's grabbed me as i walked out of the shop and said "Any change" when i replied in an English accent he just started laughing, and took another swig from his brown paper bag covered bottle. We spent a night in the Station Inn which was really good, but we had to get a taxi from the hotel, asked the receptionist on the hotel desk for direction's as i wanted to walk, and he advised me against it, asked him why and he replied "Well sir folks dont carry hand guns in your country do they" So i waited in reception for a cab :) My all round experience of Nashville was pretty good, people that i met were friendly enough, but it was a lot bigger then i expected, i was expecting a little homely country town, and it turned out to be a mega city, shame really it destroyed all my childhood image's of tumble weed strewn streets, and wooden buildings :(


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Bradskey

United States
1505 posts since 1/10/04

08/14/2017 06:44:22View Bradskey's MP3 Archive View Bradskey's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

I was there recently to see the Earls of Leicester at the Ryman.  I stayed downtown on a high floor, in walking distance of most things.  For a couple days getaway it wasn't cheap, but I splurged.  The views of Broadway at night were nice, but I probably wouldn't have wanted to be down there.  Even in the daytime the ridiculous deafness-inducing volume of crap music blaring out of some of those bars and clubs was beyond idiotic.  Place reminds me of Beale street in Memphis, just less blues, more crap "country".  I'm sure the experience at night is the same or worse.  There is a ton of construction/reconstruction going on downtown, barricades everywhere, sidewalks blocked and half torn down buildings.

I actually had a nice trip though with little stress.  The Earls were great.  Also went to the Opry because I'd never been before.  As usual these days it was the same small mix of old stars who were all good and a few random "up-and-comers" I didn't like or enjoy.  Traffic wasn't that bad, although I'm sure it plods along at the wrong time of day.  I used Uber a couple times and it worked well.  But coming from DFW you can well imagine that Nashville doesn't seem like that big a deal size or traffic wise.

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rgoadPlayers Union Member

748 posts since 7/18/09

08/14/2017 14:12:47View rgoad's MP3 Archive Reply with Quote

Not to apologize or argue but if the miscreants were staying in a hotel they probably weren't from Nashville so are not an example of local character. However, the town is built on the reputation of hell raising people who would largely have been in prison if they couldn't sing. People go to that town to act out the music that comes from the dashboard of their car and maybe get rich like one of the people they listen to. Of course there are good people, salt of the earth types like Megan Chowning and her husband. And the people who live in the counties around Nashville are much more likely to help you correct the jerks by the pool than let it slide. They probably would appreciate your playing, too. 


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