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kyleb

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06/18/2017 17:29:52 View kyleb's Classified Ads View kyleb's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

Obviously not the imaganitive neck, but as for the rest? the seller said metal had been replated but can experts see anything that looks gibson?

 

https://reverb.com/item/3554674-gibson-model-not-known-1930-maple-stained-dark-mahogany


Edited by - kyleb on 06/18/2017 17:33:51

lightgauge

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06/18/2017 18:32:58 View lightgauge's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

Rim looks genuine. I would expect resonator to be genuine, based on outside pics, but no internal pics. to see if a FON is chalked or painted. Hardware could be replated or replaced. Tone ring and neck most likely added.

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rcc56

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06/18/2017 20:04:27 Reply with Quote

The owner probably doesn't know about the hardware and probably doesn't know where to go to have the parts identified.  Maybe a hangout member in Southern Cal could take a look? 

Is it possible that's a late '60's Gibson neck with a fingerboard that's been refretted and had the inlays modified?  The fingerboard binding looks like it once had "nibs" on it. 

What's a parts banjo with a 1930 TB-1 shell and possibly original but reworked resonator worth?

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kyleb

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06/19/2017 07:14:02 View kyleb's Classified Ads View kyleb's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

thanks im wondering about the flange, any way to tell that its new one from the pictures? tone ring is obviously not orginial since its non mastertone rim and fon is for tb-1. I would assume tailpeice is not orginial since it would have shipped with a window style peice or similar. The neck also would be non original. How can I tell about the flange?

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rcc56

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06/19/2017 07:46:48 Reply with Quote


The back of the flange should be unpolished and have certain circular marks on it.  Maybe someone else can provide a better description or a picture.

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rcc56

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06/19/2017 08:35:01 Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by rcc56
 


The back of the flange should be unpolished and have certain circular marks on it.  Maybe someone else can provide a better description or a picture.


I should have said that the back of an original flange should be unpolished and have the circular marks.  I don't know any way of telling much from the front of the flange.


Edited by - rcc56 on 06/19/2017 08:35:53

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kyleb

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06/19/2017 10:51:59 View kyleb's Classified Ads View kyleb's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

heres a picture of the back of the flange, but its now listed as sold, but id still like to know for future reference if this looks legit or not. I noticed the recessed holes but it looks shiney than my tb-00 flange. however it still looks rough and unpolished, maybe they just replated over the rough part





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kyleb

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06/19/2017 11:46:08 View kyleb's Classified Ads View kyleb's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

on second look the circles on the flange dont look in the right spot. probaby not a gibson flange

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rcc56

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06/19/2017 12:43:51 Reply with Quote

Can't tell anything from those pictures- too out of focus and too small an area.  Bottom line is that while the originality of the banjo was being debated here, someone decided it was worth the $1900 and bought it.

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bluenote23

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06/19/2017 13:05:44View bluenote23's MP3 Archive View bluenote23's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

If the flange has been replated (whatever that REALLY means...) then it makes things more difficult to determine.

A 30's OPF is only plated on the front so the underside is a dull zinc finish, not like in the pictures (but again, maybe they nickel or chrome plated the whole thing?) The one other visual indiication would be the Doehler stamp which is partially hidden by the neck heel but here is no picture of that. Even if there was a stamp, that would only indicate that it's an older Gibson flange (Doehler was still stamping the flanges into the 80s) but it would be a clue.

The tension hoop also looks very shiny and new and there is no tuliping which is a good thing but also perhaps a sign that it is not old and original.

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kyleb

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06/19/2017 18:02:29 View kyleb's Classified Ads View kyleb's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

hah!  I just saw the email, this sold to me! she.accepted my low ball offer! not sure where you could find a opf tb1 for anywhere near what i got this for. :-) I have a tb00 with a real opf if this one is a replacement.

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bluenote23

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06/20/2017 11:21:07View bluenote23's MP3 Archive View bluenote23's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

Cool!

Hopefully you'll give us more info when you get it.

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