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BNJOMAKR

United States
Joined 9/7/2009
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08/24/2011 16:25:44  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

I have been working on another mini banjo the past few weeks, in my spare time. I haven't taken a lot of pictures, but here is what I have completed, as it looks tonight. I threw it together just to see how everything is fitting so far. The tension hoop was made by cutting a narrow piece from a 1/4" thick brass flat bar stock. I then rolled it and silver soldered the two end joints. It was then sanded and filed to it's present condition.  I have yet to notch it for the hooks. The flange was sawn from brass plate, drilled, and filled. As with previous banjos, standard hooks and nuts, and the bracket shoe bolts, were shorted with a hack saw to fit the mini banjo's size. The rim is made from steel pipe, turned on a metal lathe. The holes for the bracket shoes were drilled in the rim  with the ShopSmith.

  



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tdennis

Joined 3/30/2008
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08/24/2011 16:41:55  View tdennis's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

 I'd like to know about your bearing edge (shape/angle/tone ring ? )    Is that a skin head?.   Keep us posted. 

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Skyraider50

United States
Joined 12/26/2008
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08/24/2011 18:41:33  View Skyraider50's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

THAT is spectacular looking! Cannot wait to see the finish....or possibly more updates along the way?

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BNJOMAKR

United States
Joined 9/7/2009
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08/25/2011 02:42:38  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by tdennis

 I'd like to know about your bearing edge (shape/angle/tone ring ? )    Is that a skin head?.   Keep us posted. 


 

The top edge of the rim/ring is rounded on the outside edge and beveled inward at about 45 degrees. The head on it is an old Dixie uke banjo plastic head. This one is only used for assembly purposes. A "gooder" one will be used on the finished product.

Thanks

Marvin 

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BNJOMAKR

United States
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08/26/2011 17:10:09  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

I got the notches cut in the tension hoop for the bracket hooks. I used a Dremel tool to cut them. I remounted the hoop to check the fit. I had planned to work on the mini tomorrow (Saturday) but hurricane Irene is headed our way and I must spend all day at work. I hope that Irene is more friendly that she looks!

 

 



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BNJOMAKR

United States
Joined 9/7/2009
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09/05/2011 16:05:01  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Well, I survived Irene with very little damage, but my neighbors were not so blessed. Many trees down on houses in my neighborhood. I was without power for 3 days. That slowed up banjo building! We went to the Labor Day weekend flea market      in Hillsville, Va. for the weekend. Today, I got a little work done on the banjo. I cut down the tailpiece, re-drilled it, and engraved it. Other modifications are made to the Waverly tailpiece. Picture MZ-009 is a side shot of the tailpiece before modifications are made. As you can see, the mounting bolt does not align in a straight line with the mounting bracket. Also, the maximum adjustable angle of the tailpiece is about 90 degrees. First, I removed the bolt and filed the side of the bolt head flush with the bolt shaft. This allows the bolt to have straight alignment when reinstalled. Next, I cut a notch in the back of the tailpiece to allow clearance for the bolt head. Now the tailpiece can be adjusted for more than 90 degrees. Picture MZ-013 is the finished modified Waverly.  Between the power outage and the flea market, I got the armrest sawed out and silver-soldered together. Today, I started the engraving, but didn't finish before I quit for the day.

 



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bordertownbrownPlayers Union Member

United States
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09/06/2011 10:44:14  View bordertownbrown's MP3 Archive  View bordertownbrown's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Marvin, Nice work! I can't believe what you can do with a Dremel, you could have been a dentist.

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BNJOMAKR

United States
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09/10/2011 13:59:35  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by bordertownbrown

Marvin, Nice work! I can't believe what you can do with a Dremel, you could have been a dentist.


 Thanks, Richard, but I think drilling teeth every day would be boring!smiley

 

I found a few hours today to finish the armrest engraving.

 



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wb4yalPlayers Union Member

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Joined 9/23/2010
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09/16/2011 19:59:50  View wb4yal's Photo Albums  View wb4yal's Blog    Reply with Quote

I love the armrest Marvin. That banjo is a product of a talented builder.

-johnd

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BNJOMAKR

United States
Joined 9/7/2009
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09/18/2011 11:31:29  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Aw shaw, John... tain't nuthin' anybody else can do ,if they just try!

I have started building the neck. A piece of curly maple is cut in-two length wise, sanded,  and glued up with mahogany and holly veneers between the two book-matched pieces. Once dry, the clamps are removed and the excess veneer is trimmed and the block is sanded true. The peghead neck angle is cut and sanded, and then mahogany and holly wood veneers glued to the top peghead surface. After the clamps are removed, the edge of the veneers at peghead/neck joint is sanded to match the same angle. Then matching veneers are glued to the neck top surface. Once dry, the clamps are removed and the end of the veneers are sanded to the same angle. 

 



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blindsniper

South Africa
Joined 10/22/2008
405 Posts

09/19/2011 23:42:37  View blindsniper's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

BNJOMAKR ,

Keep them coming.  You have no idea how valuable these posts are to wannabe newbie banjo builders like me.  I learn a lot from your posts and from these discussions.

Thanks

Ian

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BNJOMAKR

United States
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09/25/2011 18:57:14  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

I have made a little progress on the new mini in the past week. I have also been refinishing the resonator on the mini banjo that I built for Larry Barnes. The lacquer finish cracked after almost a year. Any- who, here is pictures of the progress that has been made on the new mini!

The fingerboard was profiled. A small hole was drilled in the center of the first fret, and the last fret. Two small brads are inserted in these so that the fingerboard will not wander when it is glued to the neck blank. The fingerboard is then glued to the blank. The overlay for the peghead is glued using the same process. Four holes are drilled, one at each corner, and brads inserted to keep the overlay from wandering during gluing/clamping.

I made the tailpiece bracket from a bracket shoe. It was shortened, and filed, so that it would work properly when inverted and mounted. The holes for the arm rest were drilled and tapped, and then the arm rest was mounted with 4-40 screws.

 



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hskrfnPlayers Union Member

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Joined 8/11/2011
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09/27/2011 08:35:37  View hskrfn's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Marvin
Your craftsmanship is absolutely beautiful. I copied your neck cutting jig using a bosch colt router and think it will work fine. Have practiced on a pine neck and will do another before cutting good neck. I really do enjoy your posts and cant believe how much info is on this site.
Bill

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picker5

Canada
Joined 9/4/2011
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09/27/2011 11:05:53  View picker5's Photo Albums  Click to see picker5's MSN Messenger address  Send picker5 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

Yet another masterpiece in the works!  Amazing engraving with a Dremel, but I'm curious.  A Dremel is like a mini router.  Why not traditional chase engraving, or the modern version done with a hand held like an NGraver?  You obviously have the necessary skills and talent to do it, and the shading and nuances should/would be better, not?

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BNJOMAKR

United States
Joined 9/7/2009
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09/27/2011 14:49:52  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

William, how about posting a picture of your heel cutting jig. I've had several inquiries about how I built mine, and I'm sure other people would like to see how you built yours. It would make a good BHO topic! 

Mike, I've never had any hand engravers, except for a couple of pearl hand engravers that I bought from Stew Mac several years ago. I can't afford one of those powered engravers that you mentioned. I have looked them up before on the internet. I use the Dremel because that is what I am used to using. I have looked up engraving schools before, but I don't have the time or means to take off from my job. Maybe someday... ! 

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hskrfnPlayers Union Member

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09/28/2011 14:34:01  View hskrfn's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Marvin
Took pictures but can't download on to site. Im trying to get help. Using a mac powerbook.
Bill

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BNJOMAKR

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10/01/2011 17:55:21  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

More work completed in the past few days...

I engraved the flange and the tension hoop. I glued my photo-copied patterns to the tension hoop. I used a brad point drill bit in the drill press to "engrave" the pattern onto the hoop. I then used a hand engraving tool to finish the engraving on the flange and hoop. BTW, this took many hours! There are aprox. 670 engraving "marks" in the flange and tension hoop, and it took three to four gouges with the tool to get the depth that I wanted. My finger joints and wrists hurt!

I skipped some steps in taking pictures of the neck, but here is a picture of the neck blank as it is tonight. 



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Edited by - BNJOMAKR on 10/01/2011 17:56:37

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DantheBanjoManPlayers Union Member

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10/01/2011 22:17:26  View DantheBanjoMan's MP3 Archive  View DantheBanjoMan's Photo Albums  View DantheBanjoMan's Blog    Reply with Quote

Beautiful work!

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blindsniper

South Africa
Joined 10/22/2008
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10/02/2011 23:43:00  View blindsniper's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Nice work!  I never would have thought that a drill press can be effectively used as an engraving tool.

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BNJOMAKR

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10/08/2011 10:11:20  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

I have been busy with other things, but have gotten a little progress made. I shaped up the neck and installed the neck binding. I have the heel cap glued and is drying as I type. See the pictures below!

 



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BNJOMAKR

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10/13/2011 14:37:14  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

I have the heel cap trimmed and shaped as seen in the first picture below. I'm thinking about carving the heel like the drawing in the second picture, if I don't change my mind!

 



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BNJOMAKR

United States
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10/16/2011 12:50:19  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

 The heel was a bit long, so I shortened it a 1/4'' with a coping saw and reshaped it. I redrew a similar design and carved it with a dremel tool. It will get further sanding at a later date.



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Edited by - BNJOMAKR on 10/16/2011 12:50:58

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JLBPlayers Union Member

United States
Joined 11/20/2006
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10/17/2011 10:57:07  Reply with Quote

Sweet! My dremel won't do that no matter how hard I try.  smiley

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bluegrassmoker

United States
Joined 10/16/2011
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10/18/2011 14:57:16  Reply with Quote

Wow I am also amazed at the craftmanship on this banjo. I recently went to india and puchased a mandolin banjo but am a banjoman by heart so I decided to re-string it like a banjo to keep practicing up while i traveled. I really enjoy the sound and portability and still use it when i am on the go and dont have enough room for a full size banjo. I used the mandolin because I found that when I was shopping for a small banjo the shops usually had vintage mandolin banjos for around 100 bucks because there is not much of a market for them even though there are vintage and beautiful. My mandolin banjos are weyman and sons and from the early 1900s they both have rings of wood with a metal cover which makes it heavy and gives it that special twang and tinny sound I want in my banjos. I am excited to see the finished product....

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JLBPlayers Union Member

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10/19/2011 14:52:29  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by bluegrassmoker

 I am excited to see the finished product....


 Do a search in this forum for BNJOMAKR and check out the threads on some other mini banjos Mr. Walker has built. It's fascinating reading with great pictures. You'll be amazed by these beautiful little banjos. And they sound amazing also.

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BNJOMAKR

United States
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10/20/2011 03:00:00  View BNJOMAKR's MP3 Archive  View BNJOMAKR's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Thanks for all the comments! I hope to get to work some more Saturday morning. I'm going to see the Little Roy and Lizzy Show tomorrow night, and have to play in a church on Saturday night, and another church Sunday morning, and attend my niece's baby dedication at another church... WHEW!!!!

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