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rvrose

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  19:40:31  View rvrose's Photo Albums  View rvrose's Blog    Reply with Quote

I uploaded two mp3 files of a little banjo test I did. I am playing 3 songs on each banjo (I know it's not like Earl played it). One of the files is a Helix Hurricane long neck - capoed to open G. The other file is my Deering Calico open G tuning. I played at the same intensity and same distance from mike. Check them out - see if you can tell which is which? There is a slight delay before the last song on each file while I am retuning to open A. Which one is the Helix and which is the Deering? Have fun


Try to overlook my poor playing...

Banjo # 1 -
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...usicid=14948
Banjo # 2 -
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...usicid=14949

banjo1930

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  19:48:06  View banjo1930's Photo Albums    Reply with Quote


#1 Helix

#2 Deering Calico.

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Grey DogPlayers Union Member

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  20:03:26  View Grey Dog's Classified Ads    Send Grey Dog an AOL message  Reply with Quote


Not sure, but I like #1 better

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Nosferatu

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  20:06:50  View Nosferatu's Blog  Reply with Quote


1 Helix
2 Deering
3 Playing Advice Forum?

Thank you,
"Count" Hugh


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stevediPlayers Union Member

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  20:07:06    Reply with Quote


I'd also guess that #2 is the Calico.

Steve

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RB5

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  20:20:31  View RB5's Photo Albums  View RB5's Blog    Click to see RB5's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote


I would say that #2 is the helix and # 1 the Calico. I must say that the Helix packs a nice punch.

That's my story and I'm sticking with it!

Robert.

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CosmicMaskedAvenger

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  20:21:40  Reply with Quote


2 Deering

Deering Sierra
Deering Goodtime

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dpete210

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  20:41:08  View dpete210's MP3 Archive  View dpete210's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


I'm not sure which is which, I like them both and both sound pretty darn good through my headphones. Now that's something when the Helix can compare favorably or even sound better, depending on which one it is, than a Calico, which is a very fine banjo! Either way, rvrose, you've got a couple nice banjos there! Good goin!

Any day playing music is a GOOD day.

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The KIDD

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  20:50:53  View The KIDD's MP3 Archive  View The KIDD's Blog  Reply with Quote


Yep..
#1 Helix
#2 Calico

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1four5

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  21:12:34  View 1four5's Photo Albums  View 1four5's Blog    Reply with Quote


Yep, I'm going to have to agree #1 is the Helix and #2 is the Calico. I hope I get this right, as I own one of each as well

Dean

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Ottawa

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Posted - 11/06/2009 :  21:50:08  View Ottawa's MP3 Archive  View Ottawa's Classified Ads  View Ottawa's Photo Albums    Reply with Quote


Ditto. #1 helix, #2 calico

Steven

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youdog

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  04:15:05  View youdog's MP3 Archive  View youdog's Classified Ads  Reply with Quote


#1 Helix

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eagleislandPlayers Union Member

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  05:23:54  View eagleisland's MP3 Archive  View eagleisland's Photo Albums  View eagleisland's Blog    Reply with Quote


1 Helix
2 Calico

eagleisland

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mybote

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  06:59:21    Reply with Quote


#1 Calic0
#2 Helix

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1four5

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Rick, just out of couriosity, tell us more about the Helix. Resonator or open back, tone ring, hoop, or woody? What kind of wood? BTW, great picking

Dean

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rvrose

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  07:47:06  View rvrose's Photo Albums  View rvrose's Blog    Reply with Quote


Guys,
The Helix is a curly maple open back (I played the Calico with resonator). The Helix has a brass ring press fitted right on top of the rim just under the head - not like you would think of as full tone ring with holes. It is really light weight even with the Gold Tone long neck. I was wanting something that was light, bright and loud, with a long neck, that sounded good Scruggs style. I think I got everything I wanted - (and for less than an arm and a leg). I thought it miked so well that you would have to listen close to tell the difference.

What do you think - would you guys use it to play 3 finger gigs? I'm planning to.


Rick

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Cornflake

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  07:51:19  Reply with Quote


1. Helix
2. Calico

I love this little test, even though I don't know squat about either banjo. I hope others on BHO will offer us the same experiment. Some day when I figure out how to load files on here, I'll do the same thing.


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jeremy blankenship

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  07:58:54  View jeremy blankenship's Classified Ads  View jeremy blankenship's Photo Albums  View jeremy blankenship's Blog    Reply with Quote


Rick this is great! I also hope other members start doing this. It will give everyone the chance to compare banjos they are looking into.

#1 helix
#2 calico

thats my guess also.

jeremy

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shut up and pick!!!

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1four5

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:15:48  View 1four5's Photo Albums  View 1four5's Blog    Reply with Quote


quote:
What do you think - would you guys use it to play 3 finger gigs?


YES! I have been gigging with my Helix since I got it, and it mic's incredable, with a much bigger sweet zone than my resonator banjos. It's a wall of tone (obvious from your recording!) and I have not found any dead spots. I think he puts a little magic into his rims Mine is also maple with the brass ring.

Dean


Edited by - 1four5 on 11/07/2009 08:17:05

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rvrose

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:34:55  View rvrose's Photo Albums  View rvrose's Blog    Reply with Quote


Here is a link to a photo of both banjos I just uploaded:

http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...85&albumid=0

Sorry - don't know how to get just the photo...

Rick

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Catching Second

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  09:58:01  View Catching Second's Photo Albums  View Catching Second's Blog    Send Catching Second an AOL message  Reply with Quote


Here ya go bud.



Ricky
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rvrose

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  10:06:10  View rvrose's Photo Albums  View rvrose's Blog    Reply with Quote


Thanks Ricky,

How did you do that?

Rick

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Grey DogPlayers Union Member

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  10:10:13  View Grey Dog's Classified Ads    Send Grey Dog an AOL message  Reply with Quote


What kind of tone ring is in that Helix?



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rvrose

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  11:29:38  View rvrose's Photo Albums  View rvrose's Blog    Reply with Quote


Grey Dog,

It is a simple Stew Mac brass ring. In the pix - you can barely see it shining through the head right next to the head. The larger ring it sets on is the Maple rim.

Here is a link - http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardwar...ne_Ring.html

Rick

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rvrose

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  17:35:26  View rvrose's Photo Albums  View rvrose's Blog    Reply with Quote


Thanks all for your input. The answer was (drum roll here..) 1- Helix 2 - Calico.

Rick

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10gaugePlayers Union Member

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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  18:21:27  View 10gauge's MP3 Archive  View 10gauge's Photo Albums  View 10gauge's Blog    Reply with Quote


Funny, I would have guessed that #2 was the Helix and I play one. Here's my version of FMB on my Helix Cherry Blossom #4. http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...usicid=14823

Jonathan O'bug

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