I'm putting new hardware on my old banjo and realized it would be fun to electrify it. I've seen specially made banjo pickups that attach to the truss rod, but they are over a hundred dollars. Are there cheaper pickups, like ones that attach to the head? Has anyone ever done something like this (successfully or not)?
After hearing BuckTrent playing his electric banjo on an old Porter Wagoner show It just amazes me why anybody would want to electrify a banjo......ugh! But I guess if you like the noise sound they create then you gotta do it.
I have a Gold Tone SMP in my Goodtime. $89 from Instrument Alley. A lot of fun, especially outside of bluegrass, for rock and country and seasonal and even Church stuff etc. It's great for blues with my friends. But for bluegrass and gigs and clean acoustic music, I prefer a mic.
Check out the JTS CX506 & 508, these are Chinese copies of the AKG C418/9 condenser clip-on mics but 1/3rd the price. These hyper-cardioid units are max-feedback-resistsant so can be used within limits naturally with other electric players. Also naturally you'll need either Phantom-Power from the amp or D.I. - or inline battery.
I took an earpiece out of an old wireless telephone, glued it to the middle of the resonator on my banjo and hooked it up to an amplifier. It made my banjo sound exactly like my old '57 Fender Stratocaster.
Jerry
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we should dance."
I'm putting new hardware on my old banjo and realized it would be fun to electrify it. I've seen specially made banjo pickups that attach to the truss rod, but they are over a hundred dollars. Are there cheaper pickups, like ones that attach to the head? Has anyone ever done something like this (successfully or not)?
Juice
Hello Juice,
This is a recurrent topic on the forum in case you want to do a quick search on pickups or amplifying and so forth. Lots of people try it at some point. The piezoelectric pickups are small and usually attach directly to the head from the inside or hang close. They are very sensitive and tend to have a metallic quality which amplifies well but doesn't really sound like an acoustic banjo.
Microphones usually give a more natural sound but they're prone to feedback as the head of the banjo starts to resonator in sympathy with the sound from the speakers. Dual piezo-microphone arrangements are available which allow you to balance the signals in an attempt to mimic a loud rather than amplified banjo sound.
Lots of competing models and opinions a big factor is what you intend to do with the amplified sound - play along with other amplified instruments or just vibrate your house with a big banjo sound. You'll get lots of opinions on specific models of pickups and microphones if you search the other discussions on the topic.
"After hearing BuckTrent playing his electric banjo on an old Porter Wagoner show It just amazes me why anybody would want to electrify a banjo......ugh! But I guess if you like the noise sound they create then you gotta do it."
I happen to dig Buck Trent, he is a monster player and a great innovator. His tone is more like a telecaster than a banjo. But it sits well within an electric band. "Noise sound?" No. Of course~ that is my opinion which is no less valid.
I stuck a $1.00 piezo bujzzer on the underside of the head of one banjo, and tucked a $14.95 contact mic under the tailpiece of another, and taped the element from a tape recorder mic to the co-rods of yet another.
That might have been $5 or so.
But, mostly, I don't use them.
=):{ ) Mike Gregory, Banjo Maker Infraordinaire When I say my instruments are as good as anything Gibson or Martin ever made, I mean MEL Gibson and DEAN Martin!
GHS makes a guitar sound hole mic that works pretty good. It is a microphone so the reproduction is essentially acoustic sound.
Myself - I went electric banjo crazy! Ultimately got a Nechville Meteor to scratch the itch. I guess my point is: be careful, putting an internal mic/transducer/pickup in your banjo can be a gateway drug! LOL
I have tried the internal microphones, pickups, etc., on my banjos. Even though I got some good sounds, I lost control over volume dynamics. I prefer a microphone on a stand, so I can move closer to it, or further from it, at my discression.
"The more you know, the more you know you don't know."
Well I used a piezoelectric pickup. But as Glenn said no volume control. So I got an Erine Ball volume pedal and as I was going to add one pedal, I figured, "Why Not try some others."
After some experimenting I found some combinations and settings that got it sounding more Bluegrass like. Added a chorus/delay pedal and then Mic the Banjo as well as using the wired pickup, so now I can play backup with myself.
Although it can be fun messing around with a wahwah, heavy metal or punk sound too.
Glad to hear I didn't start a riot with the purists out there; I just want to experiment with my old banjo, I also just started doing some (very) basic recording with a mic and recently heard a local band play with amplified instruments and thought it sounded really cool. If it can be done easily I think I'll still try it out, and check out other forum discussions on amplification.
I have an Ernie Ball volume pedal,but I don't use it much. I vary the volume of my amplified banjo by varying my picking pressure just like I would do playing acoustically.
I went through this a few months back. I ended up with a Schatten pickup with volume control. However: I still play into a mic. I think the ghs would be a good option. I have one,, haven't tried it yet. but then to get a good sound you also need a DI box or a preamp. Many pros like bela Fleck use something like a shure beta 98c clip on condenser. this requires a phantom power source. the nice thing about the ghs is it is powered by batteries.(no phantom power needed) it's about $69.00. the jones pickup can be trouble to install. you might have grind your resonator or something. I just didn't want to do that.. the schatten is by far the easiest.
Even with all that, I saw Scott Vestal in the Sam Bush band recently. they all had pickups. You couldn't really tell the banjo from the mandolin or guitar most of the time. I saw Steve Martin with Steep Canyon Rangers using condenser mics.. awesome sound.
quote:they all had pickups. You couldn't really tell the banjo from the mandolin or guitar most of the time
That is exactly why I went back to mic's most of the time. It kind of sucks to play your heart out, and have someone say "that was good, but I couldn't tell who was playing what".