I decided to sell some straps that I have. I put it in the classifides and this one member wanted to buy 2 of them. I never had any problems with hangout members, either buying or selling anything so when he gave me his address I sent them out. I told him the straps are in the mail and he said he sent the money out the same day. Well I never received the money and when emailing him about it I never get a response. I really don't care about the $38, but I don't want anybody else getting ripped off by him. I want to expose his name so everbody will be aware of him and I think he should be kicked out of the hangout. Any suggestions on what to do? Thanks Bob

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  12:57:55        

Tell the name, maybe then he will cough up the dough! I hate getting ripped of myself and i can imagine how you feel

"Surround Yourself With Good Muscians". -J.D Crowe
“Nobody is a legend, we all put our pants on one leg at a time.” - Sonny Osborne

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  12:58:17    

Before posting his name you should contact a mod and/or Eric.

Exhaust all recourse before posting the fellows name as it may be a simple mistake on the post offices part...Things do get lost in the mail.

Something like this happened a long time ago and the guy who thought he was skunked posted a name and it caused a big stink. The cause for the delay of not answering the emails...the fellow was sick and in the hospital.

Thank you,
"Count" Hugh


"I bent over him, and tried to find any sign of life, but in vain." -- Jonathan Harker, Dracula

Edited by - Nosferatu on 10/25/2009 13:13:15

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:14:34      

If they are in fact lost then why doesn't the guy answer the emails. When someone starts ducking your emails you can pretty much figure you got screwed. Jim

Jim Prewar3

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:16:32    

Oh, I got a post card yesterday from a friend in TN. that was sent on the 13 of Oct. That's 11 days travle time for that post card when it should have taken 3.

Thank you,
"Count" Hugh


"I bent over him, and tried to find any sign of life, but in vain." -- Jonathan Harker, Dracula

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:18:38            

Maybe he never got them? Maybe he got hit by a bus and is in traction in a hospital somewhere? Maybe his dog died and he is still mourning? Maybe his National Guard unit was called up to active duty? Maybe he lost his job or his computer crashed? Ya just never know...I agree with Hugh. I'd let the mods or Eric attempt to contact him and attempt to correct the problem.

__________________________
"It is better, of course, to know useless things than to know nothing." -Seneca

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:20:49    

quote:

---

Originally posted by Prewar3

If they are in fact lost then why doesn't the guy answer the emails. When someone starts ducking your emails you can pretty much figure you got screwed. Jim

Jim Prewar3

---

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:23:22          

how long has it been?Things happen and jumping to conclusions sometimes leads to embarresment later.I felt the same way when I ordered some dowell sticks from Wyatt Foley,then I found out about his health problem and all those feelings went away.Banjo people are usually pretty up front about things.

Rusty old student :
I learn something new every day

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:24:20      

I'd try to search out a phone number and give him a call. There could be many reasons for his actions. Family emergencies, health, floods, fires, who knows? I can't envision any banjo player stiffing someone for $38??

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:37:35    

i would give him the benefit of the doubt for a week or maybe two. If there is no contact by then I would say you no recourse but to out him.

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:40:22        

Keep us posted as to what develops.

www.myspace.com/pepperlaingt...nestarkillers

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  13:47:02    

quote:

---

Originally posted by gunnah

i would give him the benefit of the doubt for a week or maybe two. If there is no contact by then I would say you no recourse but to out him.

---

Edited by - Nosferatu on 10/25/2009 14:51:29

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  14:02:24      

Hugh's right. The internet legal rule is that the poster, not the forum, is responsible for any libel. Even responding to a lawsuit that you eventually win will cost you because generally each party pays his own costs in the U.S.

Bill

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  14:22:23    

It's been over a month and about 5 emails with no response. I do give people the benefit of the dought, but my feeling with this guy is I got ripped off. My emails at first were very nice but as I sent then they became a little harsher. But by no means nasty. I notified Eric and waiting to hear from him.

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  14:33:29    

Within the past few months, a fellow hangout member listed a banjo related item on E-bay and the auction ran it's course and had a high bidder at the end as usual. After a week or so the seller (who is someone most of us are familiar with) had not heard a word from the winning bidder and felt that the guy was simply a "deadbeat bidder" He relisted the item and stated that it was being relisted for that very reason and actually used those words in the relisting. Many of us would tend to feel the same way, however , as it turned out the high bidder actually did die within a day or so of being the high bidder. He found this out when the son of the fellow who died notified him.This seller felt bad about the whole thing and told me so. The lesson that he and I learned is to be a bit patient as things are not always as they first appear. Just my two cents worth.

Edited by - gugger on 10/25/2009 14:35:38

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  14:40:46    

I should also note that I know of at least three fellow "Hangout " members that have past away in the last several years.

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  14:47:24    

gugger, he said he sent out the money the same day as I sent him the straps. So if he died I would still have received the money. That is why I don't think your theory is correct.

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  14:52:11    

I do hope it get's worked out.

Thank you,
"Count" Hugh


"I bent over him, and tried to find any sign of life, but in vain." -- Jonathan Harker, Dracula

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  14:54:52    

Just one more thing. He lives about 150 miles from me so it's a little less likely it got lost as if it had to go cross country and he's only 35 yrs old, so he did not die of old age. I just don't want anybody else getting scammed.

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  14:56:12    

Oop, my bad. I mssed the part where he had said he had mailed it. Sorry about that.

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  15:00:39      

[quote]Originally posted by cat2

It's been over a month and about 5 emails with no response. I do give people the benefit of the dought, but my feeling with this guy is I got ripped off. My emails at first were very nice but as I sent then they became a little harsher. But by no means nasty. I notified Eric and waiting to hear from him.

quote]

I bought and sold quite a few things on the BHO over the years and have had no trouble at all. I also have shipped many items under 100 bucks to buyers after they told me the check is in the mail before I received payment, again with no problems. I always let them know when I get their check and ask them to let me know when they receive their purchase.
It sounds like to me you got ripped off, there always seems to be one sour apple in the bunch, unfortunately he must like free banjo straps.

Good Luck,
Brian

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  16:12:13            

I know we like to trust folks but it's best to not ship until you get the cash or do some sort of escrow so both will be protected.

Hope it gets worked out.

Jbanjoist
I'm a NECHVILLIAN!

EDUMACATE YOSEF!

You don't know until you KNOW.

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  16:27:07    

Nearly happened to me for $300, but I was willing to play hardball. Shouldn't have to do that, we should have trust on our cite, but it was my fault for trusting a young kid.

Brisco Darlin' "man can get a lot of tones out of a jug"

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  17:33:41    

Well I guess for now on I'll wait for the check to clear before sending anything out to any members that I have not done any bussiness with before.

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  17:49:23        

I have locked the person in question and sent him an email.
Perhaps he will contact one of us so we can find out what happened.

Lynne

Posted - 10/25/2009 :  19:34:34      

Bob, try sending him a certified letter. Sure couldn't hurt at this point.