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pickNgrin - Posted - 02/09/2007: 11:05:26
I was never a big fan of the Ramones, but I though this was pretty cool: http://www.unclemonk.com/home.html I found out about it on the Bluegrass Blog website.
Quote from Tommy Ramone:
I have been a big fan since my older brother brought home some recordings of stringband music when I was about eight years old, and soon after I heard Earl Scruggs, and I could not believe anything could sound so good. But it was the voice of Carter and Ralph Stanley that sent chills up my spine and opened my eyes to how special bluegrass music was."
It is just our aesthetic I guess, we like things raw, we find that very beautiful. There is a similarity to punk and old-time music. They are both simple structurally but very deep in emotion and statement."
-matt
Edited by - pickNgrin on 02/09/2007 11:07:57
NINJO - Posted - 02/09/2007: 11:20:08
Check out "myspace stickley music" for some fun stuff.
The best picker is the one having the most fun.
Saint Dick - Posted - 02/09/2007: 11:49:06
I like that ...cool!
Everyone believes in something....I believe..The happiest people in the world are not those who have no problems, but those who learn to live with things that are less than perfect.
Creekcrippler - Posted - 02/09/2007: 11:59:34
Three chords, speed, harmony singing in the chorus. Sounds familiar? Another connection: the club in New York where punk rock is supposed to have been born was called cbgc the country and bluegrass club. The owner didnīt get any country and bluegrass acts, so he booked some rock bands which he himself thought sounded awful. They were the early punk bands!
Fredrik
Creekcrippler ainīt the same as Cripplecreeker!
EggerRidgeBoy - Posted - 02/09/2007: 12:10:11
quote:
Originally posted by Creekcrippler
Three chords, speed, harmony singing in the chorus. Sounds familiar? Another connection: the club in New York where punk rock is supposed to have been born was called cbgc the country and bluegrass club. The owner didnīt get any country and bluegrass acts, so he booked some rock bands which he himself thought sounded awful. They were the early punk bands!
Fredrik
Creekcrippler ainīt the same as Cripplecreeker!
Yeah, CBGB stood for "Country Bluegrass Blues". I've read that the Ramones got their first gig there by claiming they could play those styles, then just got onstage and played their stuff. Don't know how true that is though.
pbyrne - Posted - 02/09/2007: 12:12:44
That's a great quote from Mr. Ramone and I completely agree with it.
The first time I ever heard the Freight Hoppers I was completely blown away by their raw energy. I hadn't felt like that since the first time I heard Minor Threat as a wee lad back in the early 80s.
One more thing I'll add to this, although I'm sure that many folks won't agree with it.
To me, the banjo itself is a very "punk" instrument. Most folks back in the 80s made fun of you if you listened to punk. It was definitely not socially acceptable. In many ways, neither is the banjo. Folks hear that a person plays the banjo and they immediately start thinking stereotypes. However, once you start playing it for them, they can't help but acknowledge the raw simplicity of it. It gets right "in-your-face" and demands your attention. Some are instantly turned off by it, while others fall madly in love with it. There really isn't a whole lot of middle ground with punk or the banjo.
You are compelled to feel something when you hear it.
Edited by - pbyrne on 02/09/2007 12:22:57
250gibson - Posted - 02/09/2007: 12:18:45
quote:
Originally posted by Creekcrippler
Three chords, speed, harmony singing in the chorus. Sounds familiar? Another connection: the club in New York where punk rock is supposed to have been born was called cbgc the country and bluegrass club. The owner didnīt get any country and bluegrass acts, so he booked some rock bands which he himself thought sounded awful. They were the early punk bands!
Fredrik
Creekcrippler ainīt the same as Cripplecreeker!
The club is/was called CBGBs, which stood for Country, BlueGrass and Blues. Located in New York City, this place was a punk rock institution, for 30+ years. It recently shut its doors as the landlord sold the building, and the new owner had other plans, and terminated thier lease. Most folks see the closing of CBGBs, along with the deaths of three of the original ramones (Joey, Johnny, and DeeDee), as the death of the punk movement.
mjmckeon - Posted - 02/09/2007: 14:19:53
Tommy was on the Robbie Fulks Secret Country xm-radio show last month. It was more old time than bluegrass but still very good.
Mike
AD3AD3AD3 - Posted - 02/09/2007: 14:41:47
Fascinating quote from Tommy Ramone. The music share a lot, once you get past the surface. Now, if we can get a whole generation to focus that kind of energy on picking bluegrass . . .
I also agree that the 5-string is very much a loud, brash, "In-Your-Face" instrument - tfherein lies much of its appeal to me.
Ad3
bindle stiff jim - Posted - 02/09/2007: 22:19:26
i really enjoy the sound samples. very nice and basic. i'll make the trip to harrisonburg to see them in may.
btw, there are longer (but fewer) samples on the cdbaby site.
http://cdbaby.com/cd/unclemonk
dave - banjo pickin' backpacker
midlothian, va
SlowPockets - Posted - 02/09/2007: 22:35:28
quote:
Originally posted by pbyrne
That's a great quote from Mr. Ramone and I completely agree with it.
The first time I ever heard the Freight Hoppers I was completely blown away by their raw energy. I hadn't felt like that since the first time I heard Minor Threat as a wee lad back in the early 80s.
Well said Paul. I like the Minor Threat analogy, I was thinking along similar lines when I heard them play Sandy River for the first time. It became to me in my 30's what I Don't Want To Hear It or Betray was to me when I was 15. Great songs that you can turn up loud and get pumped up too.
EggerRidgeBoy - Posted - 02/09/2007: 22:51:45
My favorite types of music when I was in high school in the late 70's were old time/bluegrass and punk rock. I kept trying to convince my friends that there wasn't a lot of difference between, say, Dock Boggs and The Clash or The Ramones, but they just thought I was crazy.
pbyrne - Posted - 02/09/2007: 23:18:49
quote:
Well said Paul. I like the Minor Threat analogy, I was thinking along similar lines when I heard them play Sandy River for the first time. It became to me in my 30's what I Don't Want To Hear It or Betray was to me when I was 15. Great songs that you can turn up loud and get pumped up too.
Right on!! That's exactly what I felt. Frank Lee is the reason why I play 5-string, even though I mostly play 3-finger these days. If it wasn't for him, I never would have fallen in love with it.
DKB - Posted - 02/10/2007: 01:20:18
Man this is a great thread! I have thought about this often. I grew up with punk rock in the 80's when it was fast, raw and honest. I loved everything about it. Somewhere along the line people realized that punk rock is big business, next thing you know the music is watered down and EVERYONE buys into it. I thought it died when black flag broke up but it really took a dive after nirvana even though nirvana was a great band. I truly believe that when I stumbled onto bluegrass it was the honesty of the music that turned me on and dang if that banjer wasnt the first truly punk rock instrument. I know some folks might get riled at that but if you look at it the banjo is fast and loud just as the first good punk rock was. Another interesting parallel is that when I was young and seeing all these great bands I always thought that it was a special secret shared by few and I never wanted it to get huge. I feel the same way about bluegrass. If you think about it bluegrass always has been what punk rock once was and has stayed true to itself for the most part since the beginning I mean there will always be exceptions (AKUS, nickel creek etc.) I just hope that what happened to punk never happens to bluegrass. So to all my fellow old school punk enthusiast I salute you.
Be Blessed
DKB
pbyrne - Posted - 02/10/2007: 01:36:47
GREAT post, Dan!! I salute all the old school punk enthusiasts too!
Real music played by real people, without pretense and straight from the HEART! Yes, there are artists like this in all forms of music yet certain styles really do emphasize it more than others.
It's great to find other folks on this site who feel exactly the way I do.
I've loved the hangout for years now but this thread has made me love it a little more.
Thanks to pickNgrin for starting it!
biznork - Posted - 02/10/2007: 03:37:36
I think I would like a mix of banjo and death metal better.
Carey
boyratchet - Posted - 02/10/2007: 08:30:41
Punk is dead? I guess the tens of thousands of punk bands playing in DIY dives across the globe never got the memo.
Punk isn't dead, it just smells that way.
pickNgrin - Posted - 02/10/2007: 09:05:46
quote:
Originally posted by pbyrne
I've loved the hangout for years now but this thread has made me love it a little more.
Thanks to pickNgrin for starting it!
And thanks to the Bluegrass Blog for putting this story out there. Like I said I never was much into punk, but there are things that cut right across the supposed divisions in music, and the quotes from Tommy Ramone show that. I try to keep two rules in mind when it comes to music: 1) Never badmouth somebody else's music, even if I don't like it. 2) If it all sounds the same, that means I don't understand it. -matt
Edited by - pickNgrin on 02/10/2007 10:00:03
DKB - Posted - 02/10/2007: 11:53:37
Boyratchet, I did not mean to offend. What I meant was that back in the 80's to see all the great bands like flipper black flag circle jerks jfa etc. It was a magical thing. It was music being made for the sake of music and nothing else. The money of major labels and the hot topic fashion thing has defiled the music for me. It is kind of like someone coming into your home and insulting your family and stealing your food. Yes there are still bands that carry the torch but it will never be the same it was the whole vibe that got killed. There is nothing like a pile of money to bring out the phonies. I still have respect for the kids who are just discovering the old school and I feel bad that they cant experience what I got to live. In this day and age you dont have to look as hard. I rember being 14 years old and searching record stores for the things that no one had heard of and nothing sickens me more than kids being spoon fed the garbage that is out there now. But for the kids who look a little harder to find the real deal I still saute the.
Be Blessed
DKB
SlowPockets - Posted - 02/10/2007: 12:17:20
DKB, I don't think he was offended I think he's just saying there's still a scene going on. The music is still out there but it's just the asthetic has changed dramatically. Some of my current favorites, some old and some newer (if anyone is interested) would be in particular Lighting Bolt http://laserbeast.com/ their cd Wonderful Rainbow is a great starting point for the band. Melt Banana http://www1.parkcity.ne.jp/mltbanan/ is another one I can't get enough of. I went to their show here in Atlanta a few years ago as I was coming of a long period of listening exclusively to old-time country and it was awesome. One more I have to mention is Mclusky http://www.toopure.com/mclusky/ they're not as hard as the two above but they are carrying on the tradtion for sure.
pbyrne - Posted - 02/10/2007: 12:40:31
SlowPockets, thanks for those links!
I hadn't heard any of those groups and I liked all of them.
**Thread drift alert:
Have you guys heard Converge? They're kind of like a cross between Discharge and Voi Vod (definitely hardcore but they have a bit of a metal edge). What I also like about them is that they play in all these weird time signatures.
Check out this tune:
http://webjay.org/iteminfo/242634/f...f1bfe403811f
I also can't resist linking this song as well. It's by a band called "Farmers Market" and is a bulgarian tune in 11/16 done completely hardcore.
http://www.omnium.com/balkans/ram/bwb09.ram
Other folk idioms outside of American old-time carry the raw emotional substance of punk, including bulgarian and other balkan styles. Even though Farmers Market kind of added a punk/metal edge to that tune, lots of traditional bulgarian music is played that fast and loud...almost that fast and loud anyway.
Sorry for drift.
Back to your regularly scheduled programming, already in session...
SlowPockets - Posted - 02/10/2007: 13:02:51
Listening to the Converge link right now and it's great. Glad you liked those links Lighting bolt is one of my favorites, Eagles of Death Metal are kind of like Lightning Bolt light. Check them out as well if you haven't heard them. Both of those bands fascinate me because it's only a bass player and a drummer in each.
http://www.eaglesofdeathmetal.net/
I love this thread, I always thought I was weird because on the same cd I can go from Hank Williams to Radiohead to Johnny Cash to Grandmaster Flash to Mike Watt and then back into some Bill Anderson.
DKB - Posted - 02/10/2007: 13:58:57
converge is awesome. I have a split 7" of them and coalesce another band with really odd time signatures.
Be Blessed
DKB
8thpol - Posted - 02/10/2007: 18:18:28
Wow......is that an Echo and the Bunnymen ringing in my ears. "I am all smiles.....I got my crocodiles" pure drive and the banjo drives the music as well ..You guys are young an old school is smiling right now
Edited by - 8thpol on 02/10/2007 18:33:50
boyratchet - Posted - 02/12/2007: 10:10:18
DKB, Like SlowPockets said, I wasn't offended, I just forgeot to add the  .
I just moved from Berlin, where the DIY scene must be experience to be believed. Everywhere you turn there are folks are making their own culture. From concerts to theatrical productions to language classes to free computer labs to Volksküche (community kitchens, which were my favorite) to workshops where you can learn just about anything you ever wanted to and so on. As one can imagine, this atmosphere has given rise to a punk Mecca. Given that the scene is pretty inclusive (with some exceptions), there isn't much of a reason for phonies. I saw countless bands while I was there, and I don't think I could name a single one. I can't even say if they were good, but I had a blast.
Billy Bloodsurf - Posted - 02/12/2007: 13:17:08
I can't believe I'm reading about Converge and Coalesce on the Hangout!! Other great bands in this vein include Botch, Keelhaul, Knut, Deadguy, Kiss It Goodbye and Burnt By The Sun. For 5 years, I played in a recording/touring band of this ilk. I too was drawn to the parallels between hardcore/punk/metal and bluegrass. Like touring in an old jalopy of a van always on the verge of breaking down; playing small community centers, Legion Halls and/or basement shows; never knowing where you're going to lay your head each night; benefitting from the kindness of strangers; playing for next to no money and hopefully making enough money to put enough gas in the tank to get you to your next show. As someone noted, the punk scene is alive and well, and I'd like to add that it's more DIY and underground than ever in this digital age. The Ramones were actually pretty mainstream when you consider the fact that they were signed to a major label. Awesome thread!
'When you want genuine music--music that will come right home to you like a bad quarter, suffuse your system like strychnine whisky, go right through you like Brandreth's pills, ramify your whole constitution like the measles, and break out on your hide like the pin-feather pimples on a picked goose,--when you want all this, just smash your piano, and invoke the glory-beaming banjo!'
krazykat - Posted - 02/12/2007: 14:54:39
Sweet! I knew I couldn't be the only punk-rock, free-music and noise fan out there playing the banjo. (Especially since I saw Eugene Chadbourne a couple of years ago.) I get the same rush hearing (and especially playing) bluegrass banjo as I do listening to Deerhoof, old Fugazi, the Gossip... anything just on the edge of flying apart, but that holds together somehow. Love it.
I'm actually in the process of stitching a skull-and-crossbones patch on my banjo strap - it needs some DIY flavour.
Cheers,
Anne.
quote:
Originally posted by SlowPockets
DKB, I don't think he was offended I think he's just saying there's still a scene going on. The music is still out there but it's just the asthetic has changed dramatically. Some of my current favorites, some old and some newer (if anyone is interested) would be in particular Lighting Bolt http://laserbeast.com/ their cd Wonderful Rainbow is a great starting point for the band. Melt Banana http://www1.parkcity.ne.jp/mltbanan/ is another one I can't get enough of. I went to their show here in Atlanta a few years ago as I was coming of a long period of listening exclusively to old-time country and it was awesome. One more I have to mention is Mclusky http://www.toopure.com/mclusky/ they're not as hard as the two above but they are carrying on the tradtion for sure.
DKB - Posted - 02/12/2007: 21:20:34
Billy,
What and were you in? I played in a band called meanface. We did quite a bit of touring and had a disc out on GSL records. We played with Ice nine in Idianapolis. We also played with unsane, neurosis, the melvins, crash worship etc. You get the jist of it, pretty much all those am rep noise bands. Any way it is cool to hear from kindred spirits that tend to gravitate toward music that is real whatever genre that may be.
Be Blessed
DKB
pariscajun - Posted - 02/12/2007: 22:32:06
Back in the 90s the Bad Livers were playing bluegrass and old time music with a real punk energy, playing to punk crowds in Austin. They're still my favorite "bluegrass" band. No one else sounds like Danny Barnes.
Mason
banjomcgee - Posted - 02/13/2007: 01:37:41
Alright. I lurk alot and rarely ever post, but this thread strikes home. I went straight to punk from my mommas teet. Eventually i met a girl who was into old time stuff and bluegrass. As soon as i heard the banjo i was hooked. I bought my first a few months later and have picking ever since. It gives me the same rush as when i was 14 and started a band in my moms living room.
banjomcgee - Posted - 02/13/2007: 01:41:44
on a side note, a great band that played a show at my friends house, the cankickers, more oldtimey than bluegrass.
http://www.cankickers.com/
my posting skills aren't that grand.
pbyrne - Posted - 02/13/2007: 02:30:40
Billy, great post man!! I loved your addition to this thread. The DIY lifestyle is a HUGE connection between punk and bluegrass. Also, great list of bands you mentioned.
Anne, I'm a huge fan of Deerhoof too (and Fugazi for that matter -- gotta love Ian MacKaye in any incarnation)! I recently found a website of free Deerhoof mp3s. Apparently, they are allowing free downloads of some of their music for personal use. For those interested, the tunes can be found at this website:
http://puzzle.suchfun.net/deerhoof/
Anne, I noticed that you are into free jazz and noise stuff.
Do you happen to like Nels Cline and/or Sonic Youth? The Nels Cline Trio used to regularly play hole-in-the-wall places like the Alligator Lounge when I lived in Los Angeles back in the late 80s/early 90s. Man, talk about some amazing music with very little audience and entirely DIY. Nels was playing some of the most innovative and flat-out virtuosic free jazz/noise and he would rarely get a crowd of more than 20 people. Nels and Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth's guitarist) would do these crazy guitar duets at Rhino Records that were just "off the hizzy" if you know what I mean (and the admission was free!!).
He did some great stuff with the Geraldine Fibbers and Mike Watt (the king of DIY).
Luckily, Nels recently joined Wilco and is now getting a little more cred for his brilliant guitar playing even if it's in a more confined environment.
Keep this thread alive!
Patrick
Edited by - pbyrne on 02/13/2007 02:54:17
country frank - Posted - 02/13/2007: 07:07:58
Guys!!!!, what a thread...
There is something I have been keeping quiet about for years, I play in a hardcore punk band here in London. We have been together nearly 6 years now and I love it.
I have long thought the relationship between punk and bluegrass is an honest, working class, hi-octane, butt kicking kinda one.
Thanks for this thread, its great to know there are so many closet-Oi!-toys out there on the HO.
For the strong hearted amongst you, here is a link to my punk band. WARNING- this contains some very silly material.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...dID=77059739
Rock and Roll folks!. 
Maple Blossom in London.
http://www.myspace.com/109679141
Edited by - country frank on 02/13/2007 07:09:04
country frank - Posted - 02/13/2007: 07:16:06
Patrick, have you ever checked out The Ovaltinees, Cock Sparrer or The Last Resort?, awsome acts.
BTW Minor Threats first two singles are the greatest H/C records ever recorded IMVHO, I just cant believe that McKay and the boys were barely 18 when they recorded those gems.
I actually bought both of them off ebay a couple of years back [I still collect records and specialise in punk 7 inch singles], cost me Ģ100 each at the time but I hardly ever see them up for sale anywhere now. Truly great records.
Thanks again for this thread.
Maple Blossom in London.
http://www.myspace.com/109679141
krazykat - Posted - 02/13/2007: 10:24:58
Hey all,
I couldn't agree more about the DIY link between punk and bluegrass. I used to play guitar and "electric rake" in a noise/punk band, and that whole scene was very DIY and tons of fun - though I kind of got disillusioned with the whole indie-rock scenester-scene eventually. So imagine my surprise when I something possessed me to learn to play the banjo and I found myself in the middle of another DIY scene that I never knew existed. There are a LOT of links between punk and bluegrass, not just the blistering noise and speed and the fact that we're playing an instrument/music that a lot of people laugh at (let 'em!) and some folks totally love.
Patrick - thanks for the link to the Deerhoof mp3's - their cover of the Shaggs' "My Pal Foot Foot" is on there! Nels Cline is fantastic - I love that whole "no wave" scene and have been a huge Sonic Youth fan since... since I had to special-order a cassette copy of "Goo" from my small-town record store. The Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 used to throw some banjos in the mix - actually that was the first time I consciously realized that I love the banjo. Took me a while to pick one up, but there you go.
This is the greatest thread...
Cheers,
A.
quote:
Originally posted by pbyrne
Billy, great post man!! I loved your addition to this thread. The DIY lifestyle is a HUGE connection between punk and bluegrass. Also, great list of bands you mentioned.
Anne, I'm a huge fan of Deerhoof too (and Fugazi for that matter -- gotta love Ian MacKaye in any incarnation)! I recently found a website of free Deerhoof mp3s. Apparently, they are allowing free downloads of some of their music for personal use. For those interested, the tunes can be found at this website:
http://puzzle.suchfun.net/deerhoof/
Anne, I noticed that you are into free jazz and noise stuff.
Do you happen to like Nels Cline and/or Sonic Youth? The Nels Cline Trio used to regularly play hole-in-the-wall places like the Alligator Lounge when I lived in Los Angeles back in the late 80s/early 90s. Man, talk about some amazing music with very little audience and entirely DIY. Nels was playing some of the most innovative and flat-out virtuosic free jazz/noise and he would rarely get a crowd of more than 20 people. Nels and Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth's guitarist) would do these crazy guitar duets at Rhino Records that were just "off the hizzy" if you know what I mean (and the admission was free!!).
He did some great stuff with the Geraldine Fibbers and Mike Watt (the king of DIY).
Luckily, Nels recently joined Wilco and is now getting a little more cred for his brilliant guitar playing even if it's in a more confined environment.
Keep this thread alive!
Patrick
Billy Bloodsurf - Posted - 02/13/2007: 11:15:06
Good to see so many kindred spirits. Since we're talking about Ian MacKaye, I cannot stress enough what an impact Fugazi has had on my life. A band with that kind of integrity is hard to come by these days. Right up until the end, you could go see them tear it up live for $7.00 or so. They NEVER gouged the fans with exorbitant prices for their merch or their performance.
DKB, I've never heard of your band but I know GSL. I played with The Locust at least twice over the years. You got to play with some amazing bands! I also adore Am Rep noise rock and was fortunate enough to tour with Today Is The Day for a brief stretch a few years ago. My band was called The Abandoned Hearts Club. You can sample some of the mayhem here:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...474131d7c901
'When you want genuine music--music that will come right home to you like a bad quarter, suffuse your system like strychnine whisky, go right through you like Brandreth's pills, ramify your whole constitution like the measles, and break out on your hide like the pin-feather pimples on a picked goose,--when you want all this, just smash your piano, and invoke the glory-beaming banjo!'
Edited by - Billy Bloodsurf on 02/13/2007 11:16:47
DanielT - Posted - 02/13/2007: 11:17:44
quote:
Originally posted by Billy Bloodsurf
Deadguy
Not only is their "Fixation on a Co-worker" an amazing album, but a Deadguy show was one of the best shows I ever went to. It was sometime in the mid-1990s...they were playing at the Wetlands in NYC with Vision of Disorder. That band...they just were not the same after Keith Huckins left. (You know, thinking about it my very first banjo was given to me by one of the guitarists in Doc Hopper and I think he bought it while his group was on tour with Deadguy.) ps. your description of that "kind" of touring really brings back memories. I was in a Boston-based ska band for a while in the late 1990s (we were on Moon Records) and toured around the US a few times. It was lots of fun and much harder work than I think people who have never toured realize. pps. speaking of the punk/bluegrass nexus, I'm a little surprised that Ohio punk rock group the Dwarves' bluegrass project "Earl Lee Grace" hasn't been mentioned here. Anyone ever hear that group? Not too shabby...
pickNgrin - Posted - 02/13/2007: 11:24:00
Wow.. I had no idea what I was starting. I didn't know there were so many punk freaks here ( I use the term "freak" in a nice way). It is cool that bluegrass and oldtime tie into so many different kinds of music, punk included. I haven't ever heard of 98% of the bands y'all have listed, but keep 'em coming! And take this thread wherever you want it to go...
-matt
DanielT - Posted - 02/13/2007: 11:27:28
quote:
Originally posted by pickNgrin
It is cool that bluegrass and oldtime tie into so many different kinds of music, punk included.
Don't forget traditional Irish music - I don't play 5-string, and I hear that up in Boston lots of the older punk rock guys now play jigs and reels.
SlowPockets - Posted - 02/13/2007: 11:34:40
quote:
Originally posted by DanielT
quote:
Originally posted by pickNgrin
It is cool that bluegrass and oldtime tie into so many different kinds of music, punk included.
Don't forget traditional Irish music - I don't play 5-string, and I hear that up in Boston lots of the older punk rock guys now play jigs and reels.
Which I'm sure has a lot to do with The Dropkick Murphys.
SlowPockets - Posted - 02/13/2007: 11:37:47
And if you want to talk punk and Irish (I know it goes without saying but) you have to mention The Pogues. I'm figuring out Dirty Old Town on fiddle right now and I'm about half way through ,right up to where the really busy shuffle part starts. Great song, really fun to play.
DanielT - Posted - 02/13/2007: 11:51:12
quote:
Originally posted by SlowPocketsWhich I'm sure has a lot to do with The Dropkick Murphys.
You'd think, but no. Yes, the Dropkicks embrace the whole Irish thing, but being "Irish" is HUGE in Boston. Just look at the number of groups (two that come off the top are Gang Green and of course the Mighty Mighty Bosstones; I'm certain there are others) who promoted a staunch pro-Irish identity in their punk rock way before them and who likely influenced young punks to begin to look into trad. Irish music. So, yeah, Irish music - both as a folk institution and as a punk rock thing - is pretty strong up there and has been for years. (Just as an aside to indicate how much Irish music is there, it's probably worthwhile to add that I hear one can find a session every night of the week around town, and that the Boston branch of Comhaltas Ceoltóirí Eireann is the largest in the country.)
country frank - Posted - 02/13/2007: 11:55:53
Any of you guys know about Rab Grey [or is it Sab Grey?] from the old H/C band 'Iron Cross', he was the singer, anyway, I heard that after he left the band he took up the 5 string banjo. I remember reading an interview with him on the net somwhere, he discussed this very topic: the relationship between punk and bluegrass.
Maple Blossom in London.
http://www.myspace.com/109679141
boyratchet - Posted - 02/13/2007: 12:02:48
pariscajun, I never went to see them enough, but the Bad Livers shows in Austin were surreal in a way that only Austin can be: cowboys, punks, hippies, old and young, etc. crowded into the same club to check out a bluegrass band with a tuba payer? It was the only time I have ever seen a mosh pit at a bluegrass show. I have to agree fully: Danny Barnes is in a class by himself.
DKB - Posted - 02/13/2007: 12:07:26
And it took how many years for us to show our old school roots? This is awesome! I love you all. we truly have found a home.
Be Blessed
DKB
pbyrne - Posted - 02/13/2007: 14:38:17
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There is something I have been keeping quiet about for years, I play in a hardcore punk band here in London. We have been together nearly 6 years now and I love it.
That's awesome, Frank! I checked out your myspace and you guys sound great. I especially liked your tune "Class War". I love those bands you mentioned, especially Last Resort and, in your other post, Iron Cross. I didn't realize that Sab Grey played 5-string! That's cool. I remember them from their connection to the DC scene and S.O.A., Henry Rollins band right before he joined Black Flag. My favorite UK bands are Rudimentary Peni, Subhumans, early Discharge, Icons of Filth, and Conflict. Sometime around '84 or '85, there was an international punk show at the Olympic Auditorium in LA and Conflict was on the bill (so were the DKs and BGK -- a fantastic Dutch band). Anyway, these 3 or 4 skinheads were taunting Conflict while they were on stage (because of their peace punk stance and association with Crass) and Colin jumped off the stage mid-song and took them all on!! Needless to say, they never looked at "peace punks" the same way again.
pbyrne - Posted - 02/13/2007: 14:49:11
Daniel, thanks for the mention of Earl Lee Grace. Although, I had heard of the Dwarves, I never knew about their bluegrass pseudonym.
They call their album "Blackgrass" -- LOL! I'll definitely be checking that out.
Hey, I'm really curious about your posts regarding the old Boston bands getting into irish traditional. Are GangGreen now playing irish music? If so, what instruments do the three of them play in that context? I used to listen to that band all the time and I still have the "Sold Out" 7" somewhere around here.
Anyone here ever listen to Die Kreuzen?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...did=47742755
It's pretty cool that all these older bands are now on myspace.
Patrick
DanielT - Posted - 02/13/2007: 14:59:56
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Originally posted by pbyrne
Hey, I'm really curious about your posts regarding the old Boston bands getting into irish traditional. Are GangGreen now playing irish music? If so, what instruments do the three of them play in that context? I used to listen to that band all the time and I still have the "Sold Out" 7" somewhere around here.
Let me clarify! I didn't mean to suggest that the guys in Gang Green were playing trad music, I was just saying that there is a lot of precedent for Irishness in Boston punk rock before the Dropkicks that may have inspired people around today. The punk guys I've heard about aren't necessarily forming bands, just getting more interested in going to sessions, learning the repertory, etc.
Edited by - DanielT on 02/13/2007 15:04:35
pbyrne - Posted - 02/13/2007: 15:09:00
Daniel, sorry if I misinterpreted your post. 
I think the idea of Gang Green playing ITM is just too cool for words. I probably just got a little overexcited there.
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