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Jim Yates - Posted - 03/29/2012: 21:27:59
This is what an online dictionary tells me:
prog1 vb progs, progging, progged
(intr) Brit slang or dialect to prowl about for or as if for food or plunder
n
1. Brit slang or dialect food obtained by begging
2. (Cookery) Canadian dialect a Newfoundland word for food
[of unknown origin]
prog2 Brit slang, archaic n (Social Science / Education) short for proctor [1] vb progs, progging, progged
(Social Science / Education) (tr) (of a proctor) to discipline (a student)
prog3 n (Communication Arts / Broadcasting) Informal short for programme esp a television programme
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
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None of these definitions seem to make sense in the context of Richard Dress's comments, so I'm assuming it must have another meaning.
BanjoLink - Posted - 03/29/2012: 21:53:26
I don't make a judgment on anyone as to whether they carry or not. Quite frankly, I prefer people that are not comfortable and extremely confident with firearms that they do not carry. I don't want them around me. As for firearms in the home, that is also a choice, but please don't make it based on felonious information based on the Kellerman Study that shows the greater likelihood of you being killed with your own handgun. That study has been shown to have been exaggerated and slanted - even the author himself continued to update it himself as flaws were exposed, and it became more and more watered down each time. Base gun ownership on your own unique set of conditions.
There are two aspects of conceal-carry that should always be kept in mind. When carrying and you are involved in any type of heated confrontation it is your duty to tone down the rhetoric - much more so than if you are not carrying (even though that would be a good idea). And second, never carry your gun in a place that you would not go without it - in other words if you feel like you need you gun to go there - don't go! (of course we all know that occasionally we have to go somewhere we feel more safe with it).
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 03/29/2012: 23:28:42
quote:
None of these definitions seem to make sense in the context of Richard Dress's comments, so I'm assuming it must have another meaning.
"Prog" is derogatory slag for "progressive": I.E. anyone who believes in something you don't.
In short; using "prog" is away to sneak a political insult into BHO.
~Pete
Sultans of Claw - Posted - 03/30/2012: 05:25:43
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Yates
What are "progs"?
It's Richard's way of sneaking a political slur past the moderators.
steve davis - Posted - 03/30/2012: 05:30:39
Steve doesn't carry because he has no reason to.
BanjoLink - Posted - 03/30/2012: 05:38:29
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
quote:
None of these definitions seem to make sense in the context of Richard Dress's comments, so I'm assuming it must have another meaning.
"Prog" is derogatory slag for "progressive": I.E. anyone who believes in something you don't.
In short; using "prog" is away to sneak a political insult into BHO.
~Pete
It's only derogatory if you perceive the name for which it stands as that way. I don't. Because I may or may not disagree with someone is no
reason for me to think of them personally in that manner. I should also point out that the name is one that this particular "group" chose to call
themselves.
Sultans of Claw - Posted - 03/30/2012: 05:46:27
"I forget sometimes that progs are reading and they have trouble navigating that forbidding territory just past the obvious."
No, no, not derogatory or insulting at all.
KE - Posted - 03/30/2012: 05:48:22
I'd bet a dollar to a dozen donuts that when people here use the term "prog" it's intended as an insult. Labels have that function for them; they avoid the necessity of thinking.
To expand on my thoughts -- carrying a weapon would mean I see others as threats and myself as a potential victim. And your state of mind often creates your reality. when you have a hammer, everyting tends to look like a nail.
mullie1 - Posted - 03/30/2012: 05:49:45
Lee is quite right. The slang "progs" is used in a juvenile derogatory manner by people like Richard to generalize and insult those that disagree with his opinion. Not a big deal and kind of comical.
KE - Posted - 03/30/2012: 05:52:01
Yeah, I have no objection either. It's just kind of comical given the lack of understanding of what it means to be progressive.
chief3 - Posted - 03/30/2012: 06:10:29
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
quote:
None of these definitions seem to make sense in the context of Richard Dress's comments, so I'm assuming it must have another meaning.
"Prog" is derogatory slag for "progressive": I.E. anyone who believes in something you don't.
In short; using "prog" is away to sneak a political insult into BHO.
~Pete
Progress is a bad thing? Being "progressive" is a negative character trait? Maybe I'm missing something in the context but I am having a hard time understanding the contradiction.
BConk - Posted - 03/30/2012: 07:11:48
quote:
Originally posted by Bald-banjo-man
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnabbit
There are places and times I do carry but I don't feel the least bit threatened as a rule. Apparently neither did the 40 people killed or wounded in the Luby's cafeteria, the nearly 60 at Virginia Tech, the 130 at the summer camp in Norway or my wife's cousin randomly killed when a disgruntled employee came to work loaded for bear.
I might not be carrying at any given time and place but I sincerely hope one or more CCW holder is.
For those who are not familiar with the Luby's reference, please read below.
Luby's massacre
The Luby's massacre was a mass murder that took place on October 16, 1991, in Killeen, Texas, United States when George Hennard ″Jo Jo" [1] drove his pickup truck into a Luby's cafeteria and shot 23 people to death while wounding another 20, subsequently committing suicide by shooting himself. It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history until the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.
On October 16, 1991, 35-year-old George Pierre Hennard, an unemployed merchant seaman who was described by others as angry and withdrawn, with a dislike of women, drove his blue 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby's cafeteria at 1705 East Central Texas Expressway in Killeen. Yelling "This is what Bell County has done to me!", Hennard then opened fire on its patrons and staff with a Glock 17 pistol and, later, a Ruger P89. He stalked, shot, and killed 23 people while wounding another 20 before committing suicide. Approximately 80 people were in the restaurant at the time.
The first victim was local veterinarian Dr. Michael Griffith, 48, who ran to the driver's side of the pickup truck to offer assistance to the driver after the truck came through the window. Hennard also approached 32-year-old Suzanna Hupp and her parents. Her father Al, 71, rushed at Hennard in an attempt to subdue him but was gunned down. A short time later, Hupp's mother Ursula, 67, was also shot and killed.
During the massacre, Hennard allowed a woman and her four-year-old child to leave. Another patron, Tommy Vaughn, threw a chair through a plate-glass window, which provided an escape route for himself and other customers.
Hennard reloaded several times and still had ammunition remaining when he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head after being cornered and wounded by police.[2][3][4]
Fatalities from this shooting included:
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Patricia Brawn Carney |
57 |
Belton, Texas |
Jimmie Eugene Caruthers |
48 |
Austin, Texas |
Kriemhild A. Davis |
62 |
Killeen, Texas |
Lt. Col. Steven Charles Dody |
43 |
Fort Hood, Texas |
Al Gratia |
71 |
Copperas Cove, Texas |
Ursula Edith Marie Gratia |
67 |
Copperas Cove, Texas |
Debra Ann Gray |
33 |
Copperas Cove, Texas |
Dr. Michael Edward Griffith |
48 |
Copperas Cove, Texas |
Venice Ellen Henehan |
70 |
Metz, Missouri |
Clodine Delphia Humphrey |
63 |
Marlin, Texas |
Sylvia Mathilde King |
30 |
Killeen, Texas |
Zona Mae Lynn |
45 |
Marlin, Texas |
Dr. Connie Dean Peterson |
43 |
Austin, Texas |
Ruth Marie Pujol |
36 |
Copperas Cove, Texas |
Suzann Neal Rashott |
30 |
San Antonio, Texas |
John Raymond Romero Jr |
33 |
Copperas Cove, Texas |
Thomas Earl Simmons |
55 |
Killeen, Texas |
Glen Arval Spivey |
44 |
Harker Heights, Texas |
Nancy Faye Stansbury |
44 |
Harker Heights, Texas |
Olgica Andonovsk Taylor |
45 |
Waco, Texas |
James Walter Welsh |
75 |
Waco, Texas |
Lula Belle Welsh |
64 |
Waco, Texas |
Iva Juanita Williams |
64 |
Temple, Texas |
In response to the massacre,[5] the Texas Legislature in 1995 passed a shall-issue gun law, which requires that all qualifying applicants be issued a Concealed Handgun License (the state's required permit to carry concealed weapons), removing the personal discretion of the issuing authority to deny such licenses. To qualify for a license, one must be free-and-clear of crimes, attend a minimum 10-hour class taught by a state-certified instructor, pass a 50-question test, show proficiency in a 50-round shooting test, and pass two background tests, one shallow and one deep. The license costs $240 to $290, depending on the added instructor's fee.
The law had been campaigned for by Dr. Suzanna Hupp, who was present at the time of the shootout where both of her parents were shot and killed. She later expressed regret for obeying the law by leaving her firearm in her car rather than keeping it on her person due to the fact that it could have cost her her chiropractic license.[6] She testified across the country in support of concealed handgun laws, and was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1996.[7] The law was signed by then-Governor George W. Bush.[8]
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Yeah but is this an argument for carrying? Or is it an argument against moving to Texas? 
Dagnabbit - Posted - 03/30/2012: 07:14:46
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Yates
What are "progs"?
Prog(ressive)s I suspect.
BConk - Posted - 03/30/2012: 07:17:16
quote:
Originally posted by chief3
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
quote:
None of these definitions seem to make sense in the context of Richard Dress's comments, so I'm assuming it must have another meaning.
"Prog" is derogatory slag for "progressive": I.E. anyone who believes in something you don't.
In short; using "prog" is away to sneak a political insult into BHO.
~Pete
Progress is a bad thing? Being "progressive" is a negative character trait? Maybe I'm missing something in the context but I am having a hard time understanding the contradiction.
Welcome to the US - where "progressive" is a four letter word - along with "intellectual", "educated", "liberal" and "scientist".
Bald-banjo-man - Posted - 03/30/2012: 07:33:42
quote:
Yeah but is this an argument for carrying? Or is it an argument against moving to Texas?
Not an argument at all. The purpose of my Luby's post was to serve as reference material for anyone who was not familiar with this incident. I am often the 1st person to say that there are many people that should not carry and I have talked people who have came to me for training out of applying for a CCW license. But, I do support those who carry that have the proper knowledge, training, and skills to do so.
steve davis - Posted - 03/30/2012: 07:40:31
I basically don't like pistols.Owned one and like to shoot them,but it's just way too easy to
get them pointed in the wrong direction.
I prefer the rifle and shotgun.
Dagnabbit - Posted - 03/30/2012: 08:29:40
quote:
Originally posted by BConk
Welcome to the US - where "progressive" is a four letter word - along with "intellectual", "educated", "liberal" and "scientist".
Progressive has countless definitions some of which are intentionally misapplied. Anyone who follows the names given to various legislative bills cannot but be astounded by the the blatant, shameless dishonesty on display. There is nothing patriotic in the Patriot Act. a reduction in the freedom to choose in the Employee Free Choice Act and nothing being made affordable in the Affordable Care Act.
Progressive as in "promoting or favoring progress toward better conditions or new policies, ideas, or methods" is a pretty universal concept. To usurp the term to self promote the idea that virtually anything promoted by a particular ideological bent regardless of it's validity is patently absurd. I don't know anyone who would not self identify with this definition of progressive.
In the same way, intellectuals, scientists, liberals and the highly educated have inarguably done some astoundingly ill considered, misguided, fraudulent, immoral and destructive acts. When any of the terms are employed as a fallacious argument to promote the idea that it is a universally acknowledged trump card, the terms are cheapened and degraded. Not one of these terms connotes correctness, morality, infallibility or good intent and the proper and accurate application of each term is often derided by competing ideological persuasions.
Something less than ten percent of Americans hold advanced degrees. They are undoubtedly educated. Yet I can cite a near endless litany of self identified progressives deriding and ridiculing Jr. Bush's claim to education despite holding degrees from two of the most highly regarded educational institutions. In large part, I agreed. I can find endless examples of self identified liberals and progressives, many with extremely modest credentials deriding highly credentialed, highly educated scientists simply because the disagree politically with their scientific judgment.
You can call yourself anything. It doesn't make it so.
edavidt - Posted - 03/30/2012: 09:34:38
I don't carry because I am already carrying a banjo, a water bottle, a bike lock, a dog leash, some food (usually), possibly a fiddle, at the same time as I am riding a bike and the dog is running along side. Just wouldn't work very well.
KE - Posted - 03/30/2012: 09:49:23
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Yates
This is what an online dictionary tells me:
prog1 vb progs, progging, progged
(intr) Brit slang or dialect to prowl about for or as if for food or plunder
n
1. Brit slang or dialect food obtained by begging
2. (Cookery) Canadian dialect a Newfoundland word for food
[of unknown origin]
Dang! We should have been asking all along for a Prog Forum [PF] instead of a Food Forum [FF]. Now it all makes sense!
dat - Posted - 03/30/2012: 10:39:01
quote:
Originally posted by KE
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Yates
This is what an online dictionary tells me:
prog1 vb progs, progging, progged
(intr) Brit slang or dialect to prowl about for or as if for food or plunder
n
1. Brit slang or dialect food obtained by begging
2. (Cookery) Canadian dialect a Newfoundland word for food
[of unknown origin]
Dang! We should have been asking all along for a Prog Forum [PF] instead of a Food Forum [FF]. Now it all makes sense!
I believe I'll fire up the smoker this evening now that you mention that, it'll be a great weekend for a brisket and some yardbirds, thanks
KE - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:21:25
Good idea! I'm firing up the smoker/grill for a 4 lb salmon filet. The danged thing looks great, but was so expensive I should have had an armed escort out of the store -- because, as you know, I don't carry.
Dagnabbit - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:34:03
quote:
Originally posted by edavidt
I don't carry because I am already carrying a banjo, a water bottle, a bike lock, a dog leash, some food (usually), possibly a fiddle, at the same time as I am riding a bike and the dog is running along side. Just wouldn't work very well.
Maybe a fannie pack would help?
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:36:21
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
quote:
None of these definitions seem to make sense in the context of Richard Dress's comments, so I'm assuming it must have another meaning.
"Prog" is derogatory slag for "progressive": I.E. anyone who believes in something you don't.
In short; using "prog" is away to sneak a political insult into BHO.
~Pete
It's only derogatory if you perceive the name for which it stands as that way.
You can stop tap-dancing now.
The poster intentionally used it as in insult.
mullie1 - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:37:05
Mmmmmmm.......salmon!
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:38:58
quote:
Originally posted by chief3
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
quote:
None of these definitions seem to make sense in the context of Richard Dress's comments, so I'm assuming it must have another meaning.
"Prog" is derogatory slag for "progressive": I.E. anyone who believes in something you don't.
In short; using "prog" is away to sneak a political insult into BHO.
~Pete
Progress is a bad thing? Being "progressive" is a negative character trait? Maybe I'm missing something in the context but I am having a hard time understanding the contradiction.
There's no contradiction when seen from the viewpoint of the one who's delivering the insult.
Edited by - Deaf Lester Crawdad on 03/30/2012 11:49:06
dat - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:39:46
quote:
Originally posted by mullie1
Mmmmmmm.......salmon!
GRILLED AT THAT
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:41:32
quote:
Originally posted by BConk
Yeah but is this an argument for carrying? Or is it an argument against moving to Texas?
*Ding!*
Best comeback of week award. (Given by a gun-owning Texan, too!)
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:44:02
quote:
Originally posted by BConk
Welcome to the US - where "progressive" is a four letter word - along with "intellectual", "educated", "liberal" and "scientist".
(Raises hand)
You forgot "media".
dat - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:44:41
I would say that it is a great idea to discourage folks from moving to Texas, we have enough folks around here from other states already, not to mention half of Mexico
Edited by - dat on 03/30/2012 11:45:18
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:45:36
quote:
Originally posted by Bald-banjo-man
quote:
Yeah but is this an argument for carrying? Or is it an argument against moving to Texas?
Not an argument at all.
Well, no, it's what we call 'humor".
dat - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:47:41
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
Well, no, it's what we call 'humor".
some folks don't have any of that, ifin they carry or not
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 03/30/2012: 11:50:37
quote:
Originally posted by dat
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
Well, no, it's what we call 'humor".
some folks don't have any of that, ifin they carry or not
Noticed that, did ya?
Good call.
Bald-banjo-man - Posted - 03/30/2012: 12:56:06
quote:
Originally posted by dat
I would say that it is a great idea to discourage folks from moving to Texas, we have enough folks around here from other states already, not to mention half of Mexico
unless they bring enough salmon for everyone to go along with the brisket!
dat - Posted - 03/30/2012: 13:10:57
SOUNDS LIKE SOME GOOD EATING.
and some banjer pickin and target shooting
jbanjoist - Posted - 03/30/2012: 14:47:14
quote:
Originally posted by jbanjoist
Steve, a little conjecture if you will, humor me just a bit please, what situation would you have to live in or be in on a regular basis that would make you consider carrying a concealed weapon?
We know why you don't. So how about the reverse?
I said please!
steve davis - Posted - 03/30/2012: 14:57:31
I didn't notice the first post.
I would carry in the military if so ordered.
I don't have to leave the house with a weapon because we have a steady stream of deer and turkeys daily in the yard.
When the wife's not home I shoot paper from the upstairs window.
If she's home I shoot the bow as it doesn't interfere with her "stories".
I can just relax at an upstairs window and choose what looks good...shot goes right into the ground or target straw.
Richard Dress - Posted - 03/30/2012: 17:42:39
I wish I was Steve. To be able to shoot out of your window!
BanjoLink - Posted - 03/30/2012: 17:59:15
I do that too Richard, but my wife made stop as she pulled up in the drive one day and a squirrel was going through all kinds of gyrations from a .22 shot to the head! She didn't mind me shooting squirrels, but didn't want it done in her presence!
Richard Dress - Posted - 03/30/2012: 18:10:43
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
quote:
Originally posted by BConk
Welcome to the US - where "progressive" is a four letter word - along with "intellectual", "educated", "liberal" and "scientist".
(Raises hand)
You forgot "media".
Progressivism is a body of ideas that came into fashion here in the early 20th Century. There was a even splinter Republican Party of that name in one election back then. But that word is still not considered political.
There is no short way to explain progressivism in a few short paragraphs any more than one could explain zoroasterianism that way. A progressive would be like a Platonist or a Catholic. Not like a Democrat or Republican, no matter what Teddy Roosevelt said.
It's not political. There are progressive Republicans and progressive Democrats, just like there are criminal Republicans and criminal Democrats.
Prog is my personal contraction for progressive. Using it in the thread was not a way to smuggle politics into the thread. I used it as a way to avoid bringing politics into the thread.
Also it's not an insult any more than saying dem for Democrat is an insult. Saying dem might be reasonably considered political but prog is not, neither is an insult.
Progs are neither swift nor knowledgeable, they rarely understand the issues and they think with bumper stickers rather than legitimate concepts. Handicapped mentally they can only categorize, ridicule and denigrate--the progressive rule book has three or four things to do that they claim helps put progs in a superior position in an argument. The first rule is don't be trapped by rational thinking. That along with denigrating and ridicule was demonstrated fairly well recently in this thread. Go back and look if you missed it. It's worth the trip.
Progs are usually easy to spot on the HO and I was hoping more would jump in, but that means they might have to figure out what progressive means and that is a lot of work. If more would contribute to this thread we could almost put together a working ostensive definition. But that is not to be. Progs are easy to spot once you get used to looking for them. It's just like morel hunting. You can't ask them to self-identify because they don't really understand what you are talking about. Chickens are like that too.
It's funny that nobody knows much about the progressives, when so much of modern society has been molded by their ideas. Why the ignorance?
Our present education system is the result of progressive ideas in action. Just one example of many. The 2nd Amendment has been in their crosshairs for 100 years, another example.
I like the idea that prog is mistaken for a bad word, that is tasty gravy, friends.
Edited by - Richard Dress on 03/30/2012 18:12:56
KE - Posted - 03/30/2012: 18:21:05
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Dress
quote:
Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
quote:
Originally posted by BConk
Welcome to the US - where "progressive" is a four letter word - along with "intellectual", "educated", "liberal" and "scientist".
(Raises hand)
You forgot "media".
Progressivism is a body of ideas that came into fashion here in the early 20th Century. There was a even splinter Republican Party of that name in one election back then. But that word is still not considered political.
There is no short way to explain progressivism in a few short paragraphs any more than one could explain zoroasterianism that way. A progressive would be like a Platonist or a Catholic. Not like a Democrat or Republican, no matter what Teddy Roosevelt said.
It's not political. There are progressive Republicans and progressive Democrats, just like there are criminal Republicans and criminal Democrats.
Prog is my personal contraction for progressive. Using it in the thread was not a way to smuggle politics into the thread. I used it as a way to avoid bringing politics into the thread.
Also it's not an insult any more than saying dem for Democrat is an insult. Saying dem might be reasonably considered political but prog is not, neither is an insult.
Progs are neither swift nor knowledgeable, they rarely understand the issues and they think with bumper stickers rather than legitimate concepts. Handicapped mentally they can only categorize, ridicule and denigrate--the progressive rule book has three or four things to do that they claim helps put progs in a superior position in an argument. The first rule is don't be trapped by rational thinking. That along with denigrating and ridicule was demonstrated fairly well recently in this thread. Go back and look if you missed it. It's worth the trip.
Progs are usually easy to spot on the HO and I was hoping more would jump in, but that means they might have to figure out what progressive means and that is a lot of work. If more would contribute to this thread we could almost put together a working ostensive definition. But that is not to be. Progs are easy to spot once you get used to looking for them. It's just like morel hunting. You can't ask them to self-identify because they don't really understand what you are talking about. Chickens are like that too.
It's funny that nobody knows much about the progressives, when so much of modern society has been molded by their ideas. Why the ignorance?
Our present education system is the result of progressive ideas in action. Just one example of many. The 2nd Amendment has been in their crosshairs for 100 years, another example.
I like the idea that prog is mistaken for a bad word, that is tasty gravy, friends.
Emphasis added.
Richard Dress - Posted - 03/30/2012: 18:28:32
I forgot to add that progs also have difficulty with language analysis.
KE - Posted - 03/30/2012: 18:34:17
Just remember this, Richard, we all have a purpose in life:
You're welcome.
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 03/30/2012: 19:24:29
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Dress
I forgot to add that progs also have difficulty with language analysis.
Looks like you're having a bit of difficulty yourself. If you could pin me down in a political sense at all you'd have to call me an indepenent Libertarian; hardly a "prog" -except to those few extremists who like to fling the word around as a catch-all insult phrase for anyone they dislike.
And "neither swift nor knowledgeable, they rarely understand the issues" and "Handicapped mentally"? Tsk!
You post things like this and then get all weepy and accuse others of being intentionally unpleasant when they reply in kind?
It's indeed a special little world you live in, Richard.
Richard Dress - Posted - 03/30/2012: 19:29:45
You too, huh? You say prog is an insult, but as a true prog you think making an asserting is all that needed in a dialog. Gotta give us more to reach coherence.
Why so grim? Another prog characteristic.
Cheer up and listen to Curly Ray:
Sultans of Claw - Posted - 03/30/2012: 19:37:48
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Dress
You too, huh? You say prog is an insult, but as a true prog you think making an asserting is all that needed in a dialog.
"An asserting?" Having problems with language analysis?
mullie1 - Posted - 03/30/2012: 19:38:50
quote:
Originally posted by Sultans of Claw
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Dress
Progs are usually easy to spot on the HO . . .
The Pricks stand out even more.
 So true
Richard Dress - Posted - 03/30/2012: 19:39:56
Back to the carry issue. Curly Ray Cline didn't carry and paid a price. If he was home with a gun, the tragedy would have been averted.
Edited by - Richard Dress on 03/30/2012 19:41:03
Sultans of Claw - Posted - 03/30/2012: 19:41:25
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Dress
Eyesight
Might be a factor to consider when you're "carrying."
mullie1 - Posted - 03/30/2012: 19:41:48
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Dress
I forgot to add that progs also have difficulty with language analysis.
Sometime the "language" is just too darn odd to figure out
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