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Nancy - Posted - 01/17/2011:  06:50:15


I know of some here that refuse to sit in a public place with their back facing a door (especially if it's open) or a window. Makes them nervous.

Cowboys are funny that way.

Some refuse to sit with their back to the door.

Most women don't care about sitting with their back to the door...open or closed.

Paul R - Posted - 01/17/2011:  07:19:11


It's the "Wild Bill Hickock Syndrome".

Kenneth Logsdon - Posted - 01/17/2011:  07:26:31


I won't do it...

bikebum - Posted - 01/17/2011:  07:30:58


I don't like it one bit. Guess I want my eyes on an escape route.

jbanjoist - Posted - 01/17/2011:  08:22:34


These days it's understandable.

Brian T - Posted - 01/17/2011:  08:31:26


I always sleep on the side of a bed closest to the door. Ever since I was a kid.
Most of where I've lived, we have nice scenery so I like to sit facing the windows.

figmo59 - Posted - 01/17/2011:  08:32:18


come to think of it.....most "seats" in the mens room are facin out....HMmmm.

guess that way a guy can use his afterburners ifin he has to make a quick getaway out the escape hatch!


Edited by - figmo59 on 01/17/2011 08:39:51

KE - Posted - 01/17/2011:  08:35:09


I think it comes from watching too many Westerns and gangster movies. In the movies, if the camera pans to someone sitting with their back to the door, you know lead is about to fly.


Edited by - KE on 01/17/2011 08:36:54

steve j. - Posted - 01/17/2011:  08:35:29


I just feel like I want to see whats going on and heading my way. silly I guess, but dont like the idea of being snuck up on

pandjlocke - Posted - 01/17/2011:  08:41:06


Never thought about it til now. All of the pieces of furniture I use in the house face windows. My side of the bed is closest to the door. That's also the side the big dog sleeps on. Instinct thing, I guess.

Frisco Fred - Posted - 01/17/2011:  08:50:26


Why take chances?

Aces & 8's was Bill's last hand.

Anyone know what the fifth card was


Edited by - Frisco Fred on 01/17/2011 08:53:28

Nancy - Posted - 01/17/2011:  08:58:12


The kicker was the Queen of Clubs.

Stringfella - Posted - 01/17/2011:  09:00:43


It's an old habit of mine from when I was a master spy in the cold war days......

pstroud1 - Posted - 01/17/2011:  09:21:20


I always set that way. I kind of hide my self so I'm not over crowded by women looking for a cute man.

I learned that when I was a movie star.

Paul


Edited by - pstroud1 on 01/17/2011 09:23:47

ltjgcag - Posted - 01/17/2011:  09:33:24


I always keep my back to the wall and eyes on the doors and windows.
I'm not comfortable in a public place when I can't keep an eye on things.
Goes back to my days in the service I guess.

gshall - Posted - 01/17/2011:  09:53:39


Wow. Learn something every day. I thought aces and eights was a full-house. So the kicker was the queen of puppy paws. I don't have near as many people would like to shoot me as Wild Bill had, but they won't catch me with my back to the door.

dat - Posted - 01/17/2011:  10:06:16


quote:
Originally posted by Nancy

I know of some here that refuse to sit in a public place with their back facing a door (especially if it's open) or a window. Makes them nervous.

Cowboys are funny that way.

Some refuse to sit with their back to the door.

Most women don't care about sitting with their back to the door...open or closed.





I figure if you haven't done anything wrong to worry about somebody coming up behind you to get even, there is nothing to worry about

JohnB. - Posted - 01/17/2011:  10:12:21


I don't don't like sitting with my back facing someone, guess it all start back during my biker days. Still to this day I make sure my back is facing the wall.

Nancy - Posted - 01/17/2011:  10:13:32


quote:
Originally posted by gshall

Wow. Learn something every day. I thought aces and eights was a full-house. So the kicker was the queen of puppy paws. I don't have near as many people would like to shoot me as Wild Bill had, but they won't catch me with my back to the door.



puppy paws? I have never heard that one before.

Penel - Posted - 01/17/2011:  10:44:44


Back when I was a Fed. employee, when ever I went into a large Fed. building full of just Fed. employees (especially large postal/mail sorting facilities with a couple thousand employees) you could always pick out which employees who were veterans of the Viet Nam war and saw the most action while there.
They'd be the ones in the break room with their backs to the wall and a clear shot at the door.

It was most clear to see at newer facilities with huge walls of windows in their lunch rooms. Some vets seemed to never be found there.

I imagine there's a whole new generation of vets behaving that way now.

donc - Posted - 01/17/2011:  11:14:31


I've never given it much thought. Being ambushed in a restaurant or barber shop doesn't weigh heavy on my imagination. I do like to sit in the face forward seats if I'm on a city bus. Thats only because I like to see where the bus is going.

KE - Posted - 01/17/2011:  11:25:21


It must be tough being in most churches. They tend to have the exits in the rear. Of course, the rear does tend to fill up first.

Frisco Fred - Posted - 01/17/2011:  13:33:09


The Classic Cruciform Church...

For the effort KE put into the diagram of a 3-4-5 triangle

KE - Posted - 01/17/2011:  13:41:21


Thanks, FF.

Looks like a classic field of cross fire. <ah, I may be struck with lightning for that one>

dlc - Posted - 01/17/2011:  14:06:45


Wow. I thought I was kinda rare in not being comfortable sitting with my back to the door.

Wonder where that comes from?

BryanWB - Posted - 01/17/2011:  14:16:48


Scary sitting in the middle of a field then? :)

BConk - Posted - 01/17/2011:  15:36:03


Not so much the door or windows - but I can't stand having people behind me while I'm sitting - whether I'm eating or working.

In restaurants if we can't find a table where I can have my back to a wall we won't stay. The last time I got stuck sitting with my back to other diners I was so uptight I had a stiff neck for 3 days afterwards

In my home office, if my wife comes to look over my shoulder I'll stop working and swivel my chair so she's at my side.

I think it might stem from an auto accident I had years ago when some idiot with a cell phone rear ended me.

KE - Posted - 01/17/2011:  15:40:46


You think it's a male/female thing? Primal defense mechanism? Defense of the den? Fear of being rear-ended?

pstroud1 - Posted - 01/17/2011:  15:59:44


I really like to face the door makes the English muffins taste better.
But if your really getting them in NE, I always liked to see the sea food coming so I faced the kitchen.

On the other hand White gravy and grits taste better no matter how you are facing.

But what about all the guys that set at the bar. Must be disturbing.

Truthfully, I do face the door most of the time but don't ask me why. Linda Lou has noticed it but is use to it now. A times when the moon changes we have to set side by side because she believes in aliens.

Paul

gshall - Posted - 01/17/2011:  16:08:13


Regardless of how much suppression is brought to bear, men compete. When you go into a bar, you always pause and look around to find out where the trouble spots are. Some go for them; some avoid them. If you sit down, you want to see where the competition might come from. If you've been somewhere that this stuff is life-or-death, like 'Nam, you take this stuff seriously.

If you say you're above this, you're probably parroting what a woman told you to say.

oly - Posted - 01/17/2011:  16:40:11


I always thought of it as a defensive posture, again being able to see what was coming at you and not allowing anything behind you

bubbalouie - Posted - 01/17/2011:  17:03:42


I do it so I can see the Gals I'm not too worried about the guys!

5stringpicker2 - Posted - 01/17/2011:  17:06:33


Back to the wall always and scanning others in the room. I might have to shoot someone if they stand up and start shooting first.

(I )===='---<::)

KE - Posted - 01/17/2011:  17:13:09


quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

I do it so I can see the Gals I'm not too worried about the guys!



Okay! Now I can relate!

Micki - Posted - 01/17/2011:  17:16:39


I have noticed this at the VA in Roanoke. So open and windows all over in wide open spaces. And on the outside benches they are all facing out , none turned where anyone's back , so noone ever sneaks up on them. I get an eerie feeling sometime. But have never thought about it till as of late. Mickiquote]Originally posted by Penel

Back when I was a Fed. employee, when ever I went into a large Fed. building full of just Fed. employees (especially large postal/mail sorting facilities with a couple thousand employees) you could always pick out which employees who were veterans of the Viet Nam war and saw the most action while there.
They'd be the ones in the break room with their backs to the wall and a clear shot at the door.

It was most clear to see at newer facilities with huge walls of windows in their lunch rooms. Some vets seemed to never be found there.

I imagine there's a whole new generation of vets behaving that way now.
[/quote]

minstrelmike - Posted - 01/17/2011:  17:18:21


I keep my eyes on the people around me. Most all the places I ever sit have doors and windows all over the place so I don't pay too much attention to those but do keep my peripheral vision going on anyone who gets within 10 feet or so.

One of the security guards at our building that I play music with agrees with me that the folks worry about the wrong stuff. I told him instead of worrying about terrorists, we ought to get lists of who is having problems at work and who is going through a divorce. I read about more 'normal person' shootings over that sort of stuff than other reasons.

The guard told me he looks everybody in the eye when they come in to see if they're gonna have a good day or a bad day.

Micki - Posted - 01/17/2011:  17:26:11


Now my brother jim retired from the va. his office in Roanoke was on the 10th floor of the Poff building. He never stayed in it because it was too confining. So he tranferred to DC. and his office was in the Pentagon, end section where was targeted. He tranferred to Waco Texas and loved it until one day, he left and went fishing on Lake Waco, only to come home and find out someone had shot the office windows out and fortunately noone got hurt. He never dwells on it, but I have noticed him in places where his head is always turning and scanning all around. Things like this has to bother a little. Micki

jbell - Posted - 01/17/2011:  17:27:32


And that's why bars always have a mirror the full length behind them.

bikebum - Posted - 01/17/2011:  17:30:00


A night time I won't sit next to a window that isn't covered (shades, drapes etc) much less have my back to one. Don't even like to face one. Turn off the lights to where I can see out.. then it's sorta ok. Still won't have my back to one. I think a lot of it is due to training back in the dark ages.


Edited by - bikebum on 01/17/2011 17:30:49

Micki - Posted - 01/17/2011:  18:29:51


This probably true. My husbands unit during basic training drills were most at night. chemical warfare and training alot of night drills. especially us sniper training. He prefers dark rooms, but now it is because of his illness, light hurts his eyes and even in testing, they have to put a towel or something over his eyes to keep light out. I am used to stumbling around in the dark. He was very astute at combing surroundings and his reaction time used to be very sharp. I used to think he had eyes in the back of his head, or either his head did a complete turn around. I remember one time we came out of food lion and he was carrying a six pack while I pushed the grocery cart. Got to trunk of car and he opened it, and a guy came from out of nowhere and ask I'll put those in for you the whole time he had his eye on gordon's beer and grabbed it and started to take off. Gordon leaning over to put groceries in car just reached his arm out and took the guy by the shirt collar and told him he would take care of that and made a few more choice comments and guy took off running. I was dumbfounded, and I asked him how he knew what the guy was up to. he said nobody messes with my beer. Micki

quote:
Originally posted by bikebum

A night time I won't sit next to a window that isn't covered (shades, drapes etc) much less have my back to one. Don't even like to face one. Turn off the lights to where I can see out.. then it's sorta ok. Still won't have my back to one. I think a lot of it is due to training back in the dark ages.

Frisco Fred - Posted - 01/17/2011:  19:39:56


quote:
Originally posted by KE

Thanks, FF.

Looks like a classic field of cross fire. <ah, I may be struck with lightning for that one>



Then there's Hagia Sophia with no exact symmetry. You know who vs. you know who. I believe "they" have it now.

So who's backs to the wall.

KE, I learned something from you...this whole thread could be summed up for what Wild Bill "is remembered for"

banjodad1 - Posted - 01/17/2011:  20:40:00


If the question is Table or Booth, I'll take the booth. I'm not a gunslick so I don't need to position myself so I can pull on a moment's notice. I'd rather concentrate on the menu and enjoy myself.

BConk - Posted - 01/17/2011:  21:41:59


quote:
Originally posted by KE

You think it's a male/female thing? Primal defense mechanism? Defense of the den? Fear of being rear-ended?



For me? No - because I don't have to be able to see the door to be comfortable. I think for me it's a touch of PTSD as it comes along with other symptoms - like a tendency to jump out of my skin at unexpected noises.

gshall - Posted - 01/18/2011:  06:11:00


Being short, when I sit at a booth I feel like I need a booster chair. The table is about 2 feet away from me, and it's easier to rest my chin on it than my arms. Give me a table and a proper chair anytime.

Nancy - Posted - 01/18/2011:  06:34:32


quote:
Originally posted by gshall

Being short, when I sit at a booth I feel like I need a booster chair. The table is about 2 feet away from me, and it's easier to rest my chin on it than my arms. Give me a table and a proper chair anytime.




Gee, I know that 'short' feeling at a booth in the restaurant. I am built close to the ground, and some booths are just not a good thing for me. My kitchen has a booth, and it's comfy, but I sure made it so it fits me. I prefer a booth over the table.

Interesting on facing the door. My husband use to insist on facing the door. He was with National Security in the Army, and a real spy...guess that is why he was always wanting to face the door..looking out for trouble kept him alive. Now, not. It's me that faces the door. This is the norm since his stroke. I am aware of things and people around me. I stay pretty alert. Guess I feel that 'need to protect' thang.

Paul R - Posted - 01/18/2011:  21:55:31


I guess Wild Bill never read Feng Shui for Gunfighters.



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