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banjotrain - Posted - 05/12/2010:  19:17:40


What do you like better and why? The Stelling Bill Emerson Red Fox Deluxe, or the Staghorn?


Edited by - banjotrain on 05/12/2010 19:57:08



Staghorn 2


Staghorn 1


Red Fox Deluxe 1


Red Fox Deluxe 2

rjanecek - Posted - 05/12/2010:  19:23:54


Both!

I'd get the stag though

Grum - Posted - 05/12/2010:  19:44:00


I have a Stelling Masterflower and it is identical to the Staghorn in all aspects except ornamentation. The sound is identical and just wonderful. Even so, for completely stupid reasons I would prefer a Staghorn.

Stupid reason #1 "Masterflower" is a girly name while "Staghorn" is definitely masculine.

Stupid reason #2 The Staghorn is seen as the top of the line instrument (ie "the best") even if it is just a few bits of inlay.

Stupid reason #3 The horn shaped wood inlay on the back of the resonator looks cool.

banjobubby - Posted - 05/12/2010:  19:58:34


the only stelling ive ever played was a stag and i loved it. so id go with the stag. i played dave asti's from the hillbilly jypsies heres his page banjohangout.org/myhangout/hom...?id=12554

Texasbanjo - Posted - 05/13/2010:  05:39:10


If I'm not mistaken the Staghorn and Red Fox are made out of different wood and therefore, have a different sound. So, it would depend on what sound you wanted out of your banjo which one you'd choose.

I've heard both and played both and I like the sound of the Staghorn over the Red Fox -- but again, that's a personal preference, you might prefer the sound of the Fox.

Can you play both of them and see which one you like the best?

Grum - Posted - 05/13/2010:  06:02:44


Nah! Forget sound!! Go for the fancy inlay!

Gomer - Posted - 05/13/2010:  07:02:21


quote:
Originally posted by Grum


Stupid reason #1 "Masterflower" is a girly name while "Staghorn" is definitely masculine.

Stupid reason #2 The Staghorn is seen as the top of the line instrument (ie "the best") even if it is just a few bits of inlay.

Stupid reason #3 The horn shaped wood inlay on the back of the resonator looks cool.



And who are you calling Stupid?!?!?!?!

stelling man - Posted - 05/13/2010:  09:00:31


Since I already have a Masterflower and a Sunflower I do like the sound of a maple Stelling, So I would have to pick [pun intended] the Red Fox..

STELLING MAN

rstieg - Posted - 05/13/2010:  09:51:28


Staghorn. Someone once told me, "if you're going to get a Stelling, make it walnut". I also agree with all of Grum's "stupid" reasons.

BRIAN MUNDAY - Posted - 05/13/2010:  15:59:42


Staghorn all the way! You can't beat the sound of a walnut banjo. I love my 2004 Staghorn, I also have a walnut LouZee Blackjack model.

Good Luck!
Brian

Billy Cipri - Posted - 05/13/2010:  19:49:49


Well, I have a '07 'Red Fox Deluxe' which was custom finished by Geoff Stelling and also own a walnut Gibson 'Retro 4' and I love 'em BOTH...as I enjoy the aesthetic character and sonic attributes offered in both maple with gold AND walnut with chrome.

There is nothing at all wrong with the 'Staghorn'...they sound awesome and probably are the most prized and sought-after Stelling model year-after-year and they hold their value remarkably well, to boot! I personally prefer the aesthetic package offered on the 'Red Fox' models...so in the end this is really about what appeals to YOU, the indivdual...whatever speaks to and satiates your unique desires!

Please do be aware, however...that today's 'Red Fox Deluxe' model is offered in a very deep, reddish-brown and golden-yellow tobacco sunburst finish...totally unlike those early Bill Emerson signature Red Fox Deluxe models of the 1990s...which at that time featured 'curly' cherry wood...with a warm, almost golden-red finish.

Because I do not personally care for 'sunburst' finishes, (though attractive as Geoff Stelling's renderings are)...I chose instead to custom order my new 'Red Fox Deluxe' banjo with the STANDARD Red Fox, burgundy-red finish. Geoff was glad to accomodate my wishes and indeed he seems generally favorable to incorporate your ideas on finish and minor aesthetic details into the instrument he builds for you...(provided it is tasteful and does not RADICALLY alter his basic banjo designs which are unique to each model he offers!)

Since Geoff builds exclusively with the 'Tony Pass Lost Forest' rims...standard since about 2003...you can't go wrong and really, any Stelling model you purchase is a genuine winner in its own right! So, in the end...it is all a matter of the aesthetics and whether you wish the warmth and growl offered by a walnut 'voice'...or the clarity and definition of a maple 'voice'.

...But I sure am partial to the bound headstock, with that cute red fox head on my 'Deluxe'...and in addition...the Stelling 'Red Fox' model is the only one of its kind with the lovely, abalone maple leaves inlaid into the ebony fingerboard. Choosing one of these two fine Stelling banjos...one over the other...is a VERY tough call, indeed!



Edited by - Billy Cipri on 05/13/2010 19:51:16

Old Hickory - Posted - 05/14/2010:  12:20:16


Staghorn. I love the walnut and the abalone binding strip. I think the binding detail is the classiest I've ever seen.

Image from the BHO classifieds:

banjohangout.org/classifieds/d...?cid=4297

Eastbaygeorge - Posted - 05/15/2010:  22:04:26


I have an old, but still near-mint 1976 Staghorn. One really cool thing about that banjo, besides the killer tone, volume, and general beauty, is how the abalone inlay on the side of the neck picks up streetlights, moonlight, just any light, during a night outdoor jam. It looks like a glowing neon stripe. Really beautiful.

Old Man - Posted - 05/16/2010:  12:53:41


That's a heck of a decision to have to make.

stelling man - Posted - 05/17/2010:  06:07:21


I would just go ahead and buy them both, you can't have too many Stellings..

STELLING MAN

Beardog - Posted - 05/17/2010:  09:32:17


I'm with Grum on this one.....I want a gold plated, engraved Staghorn, with a TP rim.....

Patrick P. - Posted - 05/17/2010:  09:55:08


I have a Stelling custom built with same woods as a Stelling Staghorn.
Very rich sound and powerful.
My other Stelling is a Goden Cross with an archtop tone ring, sound is very different, more definition on high notes, better sustain and more powerful.
That's like wines, both are excellent but tastes are different

Gymbal31 - Posted - 05/17/2010:  10:08:50


quote:
Originally posted by Grum

I have a Stelling Masterflower and it is identical to the Staghorn in all aspects except ornamentation. The sound is identical and just wonderful. Even so, for completely stupid reasons I would prefer a Staghorn.

Stupid reason #1 "Masterflower" is a girly name while "Staghorn" is definitely masculine.

Stupid reason #2 The Staghorn is seen as the top of the line instrument (ie "the best") even if it is just a few bits of inlay.

Stupid reason #3 The horn shaped wood inlay on the back of the resonator looks cool.



Who are you calling "girly"??


banjotrain - Posted - 05/17/2010:  14:55:23


Hey there all,

Thanks for your input! I don't imagine it'll happen for a while, but this is handy info to have come ordering time!



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