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AKUSfan2 - Posted - 01/25/2010:  07:26:04


Folks, (I apologize for the following "loss of my temper" that you're about to read)

Our church's music program really leans heavily on electric keyboards, and especially electric guitars. To me, it's boarderline - ABSURD!

It's almost to the point that I can't stand the "LOUD, SCREAMING, AMPED UP" Les Pauls and Fender Stratocasters.
They might be fine for Jimmie Page, Eric Clapton, Gene Simmons, Metallica, and Def Leppard, but, if I knew that I could get away with it, I'd sneak up before services with a pair of wire cutters, and I'd resolve that matter to my own satisfaction!
I've tried to ask them if they might be interested in occassionally doing an "acoustical" version, but, looks like I'm wasting my breath.

OK- I'm done with the rant!

Dumb Question- but.. how often or what kind of time frame is typical to string changes on these sorts of electric guitars?

God how I hate electric guitars!


Edited by - jazzylynne on 01/25/2010 13:49:10

Galante_K4 - Posted - 01/25/2010:  07:35:07


I believe that after Moses led the children of Israel from Egypt, his sister Miriam led the other ladies in rejoicing by playing Timbrels .... using undiscovered evidence I have determined that a Timbrel was a sort of ancient proto-banjo and thus I conclude that the acoustic banjo is the most appropriate instrument for worship services! :-)

Even though electrified musical instruments are an abomination one must never turn to violence against them ... It ain't easy being good :-(

tinkersdam - Posted - 01/25/2010:  07:46:27


Having been part of the music scene in my church for many years, I sympathize with you. I'm sure there are those who feel use of the 'amped' up gear helps keep the teens and young adults coming in the doors because they're playing 'their style of music'. And there's others of us who prefer a more traditional acoustic approach that doesn't have the harsh head banging sound. Is there more than one service on Sunday? If so, perhaps speak with the pastor or music director about possibly making one of the services for acoustic instruments only. If you only have one service per Sunday, speak with them about possibly alternating music styles every other Sunday. Just make sure you have musicians to cover both....and definitely don't lose your temper about it or speak disparagingly. After all, even those who play amped instruments are due respect for the service they provide for the church.

However, if you get 'nowhere' with your request.... maybe it's time to find another church where you can worship w/o feeling you have to tolerate, or worse, be constantly agitated over the amped up music. You're there for the purpose of worship. If anger and frustration continually crosses your mind over the conduct of the service.... you're in the wrong place.


Edited by - tinkersdam on 01/25/2010 07:51:19

banjo-joe - Posted - 01/25/2010:  07:48:42


Dumb Question- but.. how often or what kind of time frame is typical to string changes on these sorts of electric guitars?

Not a Dumb Q. String changes are not necessary on electric guitars. I found the best
string maintenance for them, take the strings off, and leave them off.

(((I have no idea)

must fret - Posted - 01/25/2010:  07:49:31


When the total wattage of the amplifiers exceeds the number of listeners in the pews it's time to move on...at least for me.

Maybe tactfully (after lots of prayer) bring the issue before the business meeting. How do others feel?

Craig T - Posted - 01/25/2010:  07:53:28


Electric instruments don't make loud annoying music, people do. Same as banjos.
Strings changes on electric guitars are no different than on any other stringed instrument. It depends on the type of string, how often it's played, how much the player perspires, how acidic is the players perspiration, and even the relative humidity.

Craig

Gus Bloch - Posted - 01/25/2010:  08:03:18


String changes on electrics are like any other steel stringed instrument and a matter of taste and budget. I leave them on for a long time since tone and character is very controllable electronically
and I have insisted upon volume and blend levels that allow all vocals to be up front even when
working in rowdy bar scenes.
Some players change them almost as often as their underwear and others strum them till they break.

No comment on your congregations musical tastes or lack thereof.

f5loar - Posted - 01/25/2010:  12:24:20


Sounds like you need to move to North/South Carolina and find you a really good authentic bluegrass gospel Baptist Church that features Doyle Lawson every 6 mos.

xplainer - Posted - 01/25/2010:  13:37:58


quote:
Originally posted by f5loar

Sounds like you need to move to North/South Carolina and find you a really good authentic bluegrass gospel Baptist Church that features Doyle Lawson every 6 mos.




Amen!

1four5 - Posted - 01/25/2010:  14:04:54


The thing that gets me is how many missionaries could be funded, or meals sent over seas for what all the equipment, including the insane house sound systems, costs. A lot of churches are very resonant and acoustic music would be fine... or even just a simple mic, but we've seen sound systems that would rival a stadium set up for the Rolling Stones. Well, ok, mayby not that big, but we're talking $$,$$$ or possibly $$$,$$$, complete with teenager sound man who doesn't have a clue.

wkb28791 - Posted - 01/25/2010:  14:11:51


I'd simply leave and find another church. It sounds like they're not to interested in what you'd like to see.

rinemb - Posted - 01/25/2010:  14:18:48


If it distracts you from what you are really there for, and if that church offers no alternatives, well...time to look around.

C.S. Lewis, an Angilcan-of sorts, hated the organ, so he avoided church, as well.

Brad

chip arnold - Posted - 01/25/2010:  14:29:33


Have a look into Quakerism. "Meeting for worship" is grounded in silent waiting on the Spirit.
http://www.quakerinfo.com/qi_list.shtml

pandjlocke - Posted - 01/25/2010:  16:04:31


About a year ago, the church we attend sold their property and began renting from a school here in town. We worship in the auditorium. One of the things they did with the money from the sale was to replace the electronic "drums" with a real drum kit. The problem was that the real drum kit was much too loud for a church service in the small auditorium. I told the pastoral staff that all you could hear was drums and we needed to invest in a drum shield. Two weeks went by and nothing was done. Beginning the third week I started standing out in the hall during worship service. The third week of that one of the pastors came out of the auditorium and saw me. He asked me what I was doing out there. I told him that I wanted the Lord to be able to hear my prayers. The very next week there was a drum shield in place. It's a lot better now. There has even been a suggestion that I bring my banjo for a couple of songs.

sawyer 12 - Posted - 01/25/2010:  18:09:59


What ever happened to the old fashion piano or organ?

fivebranch - Posted - 01/26/2010:  00:24:36


Last time I made a comment on a subject I thought was of a religious nature it got terminated. But,what bothers me is the move toward a contemporary service. Where you come as you are and where they play the up beat songs. One hour on Sunday or Saturday (depending on your beliefs) and a person can't dress nice?


Edited by - fivebranch on 01/26/2010 00:29:32



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