theonly1hardway - Posted - 12/20/2009:  09:47:53

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WOW! Abe Linclon said "you can please some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time"
I never noticed before, but was there ever a thread about the different signatures and a shared dislike of some members of members being able to add a signature. The idea of being able to automatically add it was great. My signature was my web site. I sell on ebay; try to add your site to a auction listing....won't happen. At this time my auto fill is not working on my computer? Everyday I have to physically type in the info to enter the drawing....do I quit entering the drawing because it don't work....no. Same with your signature.....physically type it in. Some of us can remember how not so long ago you did not even have the option of a great site like the BHO or any other site for that matter because there was no internet. I guess for those who are so distraught over the singatures you can always start your own site and then you can make the rules.
www.harrisonbanjo.com

N.E.banjo - Posted - 12/23/2009:  11:36:02

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Originally posted by Jammer

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Originally posted by Nosferatu

Will the "Non-argumentative religious topics" be the next to go, along with the gun topics?

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Heck, normally I would not worry about gun issues being taking away here, but I just had my sig of THE AMERICAN FLAG BANNED!

De End

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There's a phrase; "intellectual dishonesty".

When you know full well the true situation, but hope to mislead others' perceptions
without quite lying.

ie., intellectual dishonesty is to put forth as your personal
view, something you don't even believe yourself, in hopes others will follow, not usually from
stupidity, but from their simple neglect to fully analyze what you wrote. The hallmark of intellectual
dishonesty, is that no actual concrete facts are misrepresented - just trying to effect
perceptions - so one doesn't quite lie.

Eric halted automatic signatures en mass for several logistic reasons.

To attempt to put forth the idea that he expressly targeted one user's American flag icon
for a "ban" is perhaps the most blatant example I've ever seen.

Banning all signatures would have been a lot to go through just to get to that flag, when he could have
just deleted it directly. To suggest that he did is an insult to the intelligence of
every member here.

Besides, it's just as laughable to think Eric has a problem with American flags.

Good grief!


Dan

minstrelmike - Posted - 12/23/2009:  11:49:37

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I liked the facetious assertion that 'my sig' -- the American flag -- isn't political.

Its display may or not be meant in a political manner, but a country's flag certainly is a political symbol, one that attracts politicians to it, at least the American ones in the US and the anti-American ones in other countries.

Mike Moxcey

BanjoDiva - Posted - 12/23/2009:  13:00:37

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Originally posted by N.E.banjo

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Originally posted by Jammer

quote:

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Originally posted by Nosferatu

Will the "Non-argumentative religious topics" be the next to go, along with the gun topics?

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Heck, normally I would not worry about gun issues being taking away here, but I just had my sig of THE AMERICAN FLAG BANNED!

De End

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There's a phrase; "intellectual dishonesty".

When you know full well the true situation, but hope to mislead others' perceptions
without quite lying.

ie., intellectual dishonesty is to put forth as your personal
view, something you don't even believe yourself, in hopes others will follow, not usually from
stupidity, but from their simple neglect to fully analyze what you wrote. The hallmark of intellectual
dishonesty, is that no actual concrete facts are misrepresented - just trying to effect
perceptions - so one doesn't quite lie.

Eric halted automatic signatures en mass for several logistic reasons.

To attempt to put forth the idea that he expressly targeted one user's American flag icon
for a "ban" is perhaps the most blatant example I've ever seen.

Banning all signatures would have been a lot to go through just to get to that flag, when he could have
just deleted it directly. To suggest that he did is an insult to the intelligence of
every member here.

Besides, it's just as laughable to think Eric has a problem with American flags.

Good grief!


Dan

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Well said Danster.

Jammer - Posted - 01/07/2010:  21:01:56

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quote:

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Originally posted by N.E.banjo

quote:

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Originally posted by Jammer

quote:

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Originally posted by Nosferatu

Will the "Non-argumentative religious topics" be the next to go, along with the gun topics?

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Heck, normally I would not worry about gun issues being taking away here, but I just had my sig of THE AMERICAN FLAG BANNED!

De End

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There's a phrase; "intellectual dishonesty".

When you know full well the true situation, but hope to mislead others' perceptions
without quite lying.

ie., intellectual dishonesty is to put forth as your personal
view, something you don't even believe yourself, in hopes others will follow, not usually from
stupidity, but from their simple neglect to fully analyze what you wrote. The hallmark of intellectual
dishonesty, is that no actual concrete facts are misrepresented - just trying to effect
perceptions - so one doesn't quite lie.

Eric halted automatic signatures en mass for several logistic reasons.

To attempt to put forth the idea that he expressly targeted one user's American flag icon
for a "ban" is perhaps the most blatant example I've ever seen.

Banning all signatures would have been a lot to go through just to get to that flag, when he could have
just deleted it directly. To suggest that he did is an insult to the intelligence of
every member here.

Besides, it's just as laughable to think Eric has a problem with American flags.

Good grief!


Dan

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Dan: I am reminded of what John Lennon once said when a reporter asked him about some of his lyrics in Sgt. Pepper.

Your quote of my post was one in which I was trying to express a little humor. Of course I disagree with the no sig rule, and I do not visit here as often because of it. I never said I would boycott this place forever. But sometimes things are said with an element of humor, it's not always meant to be taken seriously. I never thought Eric had a problem with the American flag. Shesh. It was said to get a chuckle, but instead it appears to of been over analyzed.

BTW: Paul is....






The Walrus!




Terry

My Short YouTube Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Jammer2.../hHAS-PdLKtE


Please Support American Workers
by Purchasing American Goods And
Services Whenever Possible.

RBuddy - Posted - 01/08/2010:  08:27:45

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Whatever the rationale for ditching the signatures, I miss them and wish they were back. They were handy and I can't say I ever saw one that was offensive. I always liked folks to know my name without me having to remember to type it at the bottom of a post or without them having to look it up.

If I didn't like someone using it to promote a web link I just didn't go there.

Lack of a signature line takes a big piece of a posters web "personality" away.

JMHO

......Brian

N.E.banjo - Posted - 01/09/2010:  10:19:48

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Originally posted by Jammer

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Originally posted by N.E.banjo

quote:

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Originally posted by Jammer

quote:

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Originally posted by Nosferatu

Will the "Non-argumentative religious topics" be the next to go, along with the gun topics?

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Heck, normally I would not worry about gun issues being taking away here, but I just had my sig of THE AMERICAN FLAG BANNED!

De End

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There's a phrase; "intellectual dishonesty".

When you know full well the true situation, but hope to mislead others' perceptions
without quite lying.

ie., intellectual dishonesty is to put forth as your personal
view, something you don't even believe yourself, in hopes others will follow, not usually from
stupidity, but from their simple neglect to fully analyze what you wrote. The hallmark of intellectual
dishonesty, is that no actual concrete facts are misrepresented - just trying to effect
perceptions - so one doesn't quite lie.

Eric halted automatic signatures en mass for several logistic reasons.

To attempt to put forth the idea that he expressly targeted one user's American flag icon
for a "ban" is perhaps the most blatant example I've ever seen.

Banning all signatures would have been a lot to go through just to get to that flag, when he could have
just deleted it directly. To suggest that he did is an insult to the intelligence of
every member here.

Besides, it's just as laughable to think Eric has a problem with American flags.

Good grief!


Dan

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Dan: I am reminded of what John Lennon once said when a reporter asked him about some of his lyrics in Sgt. Pepper.

Your quote of my post was one in which I was trying to express a little humor. Of course I disagree with the no sig rule, and I do not visit here as often because of it. I never said I would boycott this place forever. But sometimes things are said with an element of humor, it's not always meant to be taken seriously. I never thought Eric had a problem with the American flag. Shesh. It was said to get a chuckle, but instead it appears to of been over analyzed.

BTW: Paul is....






The Walrus!




Terry

My Short YouTube Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Jammer2.../hHAS-PdLKtE


Please Support American Workers
by Purchasing American Goods And
Services Whenever Possible.

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Well, I re-read the original post, it's own context and in context with the rest of the your posts in the thread.

Trying to convince ANYONE that there was humor intended, is simple MORE . . . intellectual dishonesty.

BTW - John Lennon may be a god to the rest of the world - but I always saw him as a drugged out freak.

Dan

Jammer - Posted - 01/09/2010:  16:05:19

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Dan, you know me well enough to KNOW if I meant a post to be taken 100% literally that nothing would stop me from defending it. I meant much of what I said in this this thread, but I in no way believe Eric is banning The American Flag from our posts! (Please observe the bottom of THIS post)

It went over your head, and that sir, is NO JOKE.

And PLEASE stop calling me dishonest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -That could be seen as a PERSONAL ATTACK, but I never cared much about rules either. Rather you pick and choose which rules you approve of as well?

Terry

My Short YouTube Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Jammer2.../hHAS-PdLKtE


Please Support American Workers
by Purchasing American Made Goods
and Services Whenever Possible.

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Edited by - Jammer on 01/09/2010 16:16:30

BanjoDiva - Posted - 01/10/2010:  07:30:07

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Hey Jammer, I have a question about your sig line -- There are a lot of foreign corporations who operate factories here in the United States (Kia and BMW are located near me) and employ American workers. Wouldn't buying foreign in that instance also be supporting American workers? And Wal-mart is an American company which supplies most foreign goods and is documented as treating its American workers horribly by not paying a minimu wage and encouraging workers to use medacaid instead of the company's pathetic healthcare plan. In that case I would think that patronizing an American company would simply be helping foreign workers?

Just some things to think about.

(See how easily your sig line can be construed as political?)

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Edited by - BanjoDiva on 01/10/2010 07:32:15

minstrelmike - Posted - 01/10/2010:  10:44:49

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Everything I buy, I buy with American dollars.

Does that count? (Does it count more if don't _know_ that the "American" economy is propped up by the supposedly communist Chinese yuan?)

Mike Moxcey
Close your borders, narrow your mind, and pray for world peace.
Is that fundamentalist Christian or fundamentalist Islam?

Jammer - Posted - 01/10/2010:  12:42:31

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Diva: Your points (good ones too!) remind me of a few other related things too.....

I have no problem at all with people in another nation asking others to buy their goods and services. I would respect that and be happy to see it to be honest with you, because I am starting to feel like I come from the only family in the world that prefers to buy stuff built where I live at it. I welcome others to do the same. NO problem with me at all.

Oh, I do not feel the need to post the flag on every single post either. In many posts I'll skip it to lesson the burnout factor. Also some threads are on such personal subject matter that it would seem disrespectful to post the flag-sig, so I try to avoid doing that.

I really would like to see members that live in other depressed countries (for lack of better words) take pride in their own country's products and make some sort of creative statement about it. I support the idea 100%. The idea is to take pride in purchasing something that might help create jobs for people that badly need them.

Moving on to your points, Diva (and they are good ones!)...

When making a purchase it helps to know how much content is made in what country (If one cares about the economy). MY car, for example, had a sticker on it that said 72% American/Canadian content. They assemble Toyotas in my state, so at least we get those jobs... And OHIO has Honda plants, but the bulk of their profits go to the stock/bond holders, and the high level white color business workers etc.... Walmart is called ChinaMart by my family. I once asked a sales person where a product was made and he gave me a look of shock as if he had never been asked that question. I feel more should ask.

As much as I try to buy American I once tried to get a job at Walmart (Chinamart)!!
It seems out here in the hills people have to know somebody to pull strings for ya to get into Walmart. I know there are plenty of folks that see Walmart as a decent place to work. I understand many such issues appear blurred. Nevertheless I managed to buy Made in America products for Christmas gifts from Chinamart! (Sure had to hunt hard though)

So that was a reply to the questions I was asked about. Now I hope we all can agree to not discuss anything more, in this thread, that is this close to being defined as politics.