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Bill The Plumber - Posted - 11/11/2009:  10:45:44


hey,i was at a jam recently and a guitar player said the next song is in C Minor, does that mean CMinor,Fminor,GMinor as a pretty safe chord progression?BTP

steve davis - Posted - 11/11/2009:  10:51:11


Cm Fm G

janolov - Posted - 11/11/2009:  10:53:52


Sometimes also G7 is used in Cm songs, usually just before the Cm chord.

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Jan-Olov

Bill Rogers - Posted - 11/11/2009:  11:10:49


I found this on the web: http://www.guitar-chords.org.uk/cho...c-minor.html

Bill


Edited by - Bill Rogers on 11/11/2009 11:14:25

1four5 - Posted - 11/11/2009:  11:32:14




Dean

banjoak - Posted - 11/11/2009:  11:57:40


You can't apply a blanket theoretical rule. You have to go by how it sounds. It's about context.

Many, many, many minor tunes have a strong VII chord as the second most important chord (Bb in Cm). Many minor tunes, as mentioned use a V7 (G7 in Cm); but some use the minor. Some tunes use it's relative major which would be Eb in Cm. Some tunes go to a IV major, and V7.

It's all about context (including style) of the notes you are playing.

pearcemusic - Posted - 11/11/2009:  12:05:26


depends on what type of minor.
some possibilities:
Cm Fm Gm
Cm Fm G7
Cm Bb Ab
Cm Bb G7
Ddim G7 Cm
or a modal-ey minor that doesn't have distinct chord changes

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Klondike Waldo - Posted - 11/11/2009:  14:06:20


quote:
Originally posted by 1four5



Dean




Dean, I have to disagree with the minor portion of your chart on two points:

1. depending on the type of minor, you're much more likely to have a strong V or V7 chord resolving to i at the final cadences.
2. The standard convention is to use lower case Roman numerals for minor and diminished chords thus:
Major Key: I ii iii IV V (V7) vi vii
Minor Key i, ii, III, iv, v (or V/V7) VI VII ( in many modal tunes VII to i is a much more satisfying cadence than v to i)

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1four5 - Posted - 11/11/2009:  17:21:39


Bob,
I just picked that up somewhere in my past surfing and kept it. I couldn't even tell you where it came from. I've never used or messed with minor keys, but have used that chart a lot for major keys, mostly from my blues playing days. Even your explination is WAY over my head but I thought that chart would somehow apply to this thread.

Dean

minstrelmike - Posted - 11/11/2009:  18:36:04


Default is Cm Fm G7 but I would ask him what chords he's thinking about.

And in what order because there are different things you might want to do in Cm
(as listed above)

Mike Moxcey
http://moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/index.html

Ronnie - Posted - 11/19/2009:  08:56:52


I don't understand the chart either. The V (or V7)is usually a major chord.



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