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philip4229 - Posted - 11/09/2009: 15:34:08
I am a little concerned about Janet Davis Music Company's shipping rates. Here is my story: I am ready to purchase some Keith D-Tuners. Apparently Mrs Janet has flat shipping rates that steadily increase based how much money you spend. Here is where it stands right now:
Under $25.00: $6.95
$25.01-$40.00: $7.95
$40.01-$55.00: $8.95
$55.01-$70.00: $9.95
$70.01-$85.00: $10.95
$85.01-$100.00: $11.95
$100.01-$125.00: $12.95
$125.01-$150.00: $13.95
$150.01-$200.00: $14.95
$200.01-$250.00: $15.95
$250.01+*: $16.95 (except for items specified)
Add another $9 because I am going to have to purchase the replacement buttons for the tuners so that they will match my existing Ivoroid buttons...so at the moment my basket contains roughly $230 of goods.
Right now I am looking at having something that may weigh at the very most, one pound, and it is going to run me nearly $16 to ship them!!! I think that is flaming ridiculous. About six months ago I made a purchase from them and it was an Elliot capo and a clip on tuner. I called them to try and negotiate a better shipping rate since I thought it was unfair that they were gonna make a killing off of me just from the shipping based off my purchase price. I don't know about you, but I feel like I am being taken advantage of. Janet Davis has a very unreasonable shipping policy, and it is going to drive my business away from her.
Anyone care to offer any alternate sources that carry Keith D-Tuners as well as replacement buttons other than Janet Davis Music?
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Edited by - Poppy on 11/12/2009 11:39:21
beegee - Posted - 11/09/2009: 15:38:39
Bill Keith?
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philip4229 - Posted - 11/09/2009: 15:40:28
Yes. That would be Keith D-Tuners that Bill Keith designed.
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Grinnin&Pickin - Posted - 11/09/2009: 15:50:17
Take your business somewhere else.... I've always had great service from Janet Davis.
jbanjoist - Posted - 11/09/2009: 15:52:16
FQMS? Elderly?
That is a messed up way to do it IMO.
Jbanjoist
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Grum - Posted - 11/09/2009: 15:52:43
Buy them directly from Bill. Google his website.
Oh all right I'll do it for you ... http://www.beaconbanjo.com/
You should try paying for shipping to Australia!!
Grahame Bertram - I pick, therefore I grin.
philip4229 - Posted - 11/09/2009: 15:53:46
FQMS or Elderly don't carry replacement buttons. I would really prefer not to have my 2nd and 3rd string tuners with pearly white tuning buttons and the rest be Ivoroid. Plus Elderly has them marked a lot higher than JDMC.
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impickin5 - Posted - 11/09/2009: 15:59:55
Philip, I agree with you. Shipping costs should be based on the size, weight of the package, and shipping method, NOT the COST of the item(s). That's the reason I quit ordering from JDMC a couple of years ago.
Ray
Edited by - impickin5 on 11/09/2009 16:02:46
gshall - Posted - 11/09/2009: 16:06:30
If it's cheaper to drive somewhere and pick them up, do that. Supply & demand: If you want them bad enough to pay for them, you got a good price. If someone is overpriced, let the competition bring them in line.
Making business decisions isn't alway easy or obvious.
I could be some 50 year old dude sitting around in stained shorts resting my pizza on my beer belly, except I'm too old.
Jerry
Alex Z - Posted - 11/09/2009: 16:07:28
Hmmm. philip4229 would pay $16, and the lowest shipping charge is $7. Therefore, this is a $9 issue - max.
For the extra $9, philip4229 gets the tuners for $27 cheaper than Elderly. Elderly currently has free shipping on this item. Thus, the Janet Davis purchase is still $18 cheaper.
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FQMS or Elderly don't carry replacement buttons.
Janet Davis does. If the buttons were purchased separately, and the tuners from another supplier, there would be two shipping charges. Perhaps one might look at the total deal -- the "out the door", delivered to your front door, price. Kind of like a car purchase. Who cares what the transportation charge is as long as the total price is acceptable? If there is an economic disadvantage doing all the business with Janet Davis, I don't see it, yet.  Alex Z
philip4229 - Posted - 11/09/2009: 16:17:44
$9 is still very high to ship something so small. What if lived hours away from the nearest music store and was forced to use the internet to but supplies. Lets just say I order set of finger picks, a thumb pick, and strings. Janet is going to charge me around 7$ to ship some stuff that weighs about the same as a letter. Last I checked stamps where still under dollar.
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RaYhOLio - Posted - 11/09/2009: 16:18:22
Yeah, I think it's a non issue.. just buy it from the cheapest place you can find AFTER shipping.. then what is there to complain about?
As to 'why?' It's very possible that Janet Davis factors a profit on shipping into their price.. not to mention that the act of packing and shipping an item costs labor, and materials..
But mainly, think about the logistics.. Janet Davis IS NOT amazon.. they probably don't have software that figures shipping on each item.. and if they did, they would still have to weigh each item, and set it up in the PC.. With their current scale, it saves Hours upon hours of labor, not to mention software expense.. thus allowing you to pay a lower price in the long run.. Pretty smart really.
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Getzik9009 - Posted - 11/09/2009: 16:28:50
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 16:07:28
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Hmmm. philip4229 would pay $16, and the lowest shipping charge is $7. Therefore, this is a $9 issue - max.
For the extra $9, philip4229 gets the tuners for $27 cheaper than Elderly. Elderly currently has free shipping on this item. Thus, the Janet Davis purchase is still $18 cheaper.
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FQMS or Elderly don't carry replacement buttons.
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Janet Davis does. If the buttons were purchased separately, and the tuners from another supplier, there would be two shipping charges.
Perhaps one might look at the total deal -- the "out the door", delivered to your front door, price. Kind of like a car purchase. Who cares what the transportation charge is as long as the total price is acceptable?
If there is an economic disadvantage doing all the business with Janet Davis, I don't see it, yet.
Alex Z
What on earth is this person complaining about if worst case the tuners are $18 cheaper from JDMC. Is this all about Hey look I'm posting? From the flip side. These on line store programs used by dealers in all catagories of merchandise do not have options to sort shipping via size & weight. The only option is dollar value. What company charges shipping exactly? They fool you with higher cost merchandise and free shipping. Your still paying one way or another. I suggest you go elsewhere for your tuners and JDMC sake. Janet didn't need this kind of negative publicity for a meezly few dollars profit. Sometimes no business is better than bad business. And No, just because you have money to buy means a reputable company needs your kind of business.
Edited by - Getzik9009 on 11/09/2009 16:31:12
CosmicMaskedAvenger - Posted - 11/09/2009: 16:30:12
Yeah, I think it's a non issue.. just buy it from the cheapest place you can find AFTER shipping.. then what is there to complain about?
+1
Deering Sierra
Deering Goodtime
Mike Casey - Posted - 11/09/2009: 16:33:50
Maybe part of the shipping charges include insurance? I'd check that out. I have learned to get insurance on things I have shipped. Sometimes things get highjacked or get broken. I've been dealing with Janet Davis Music for many years and they have always been honest and above board. I don't think they've changed anything in that regard.
Mike Casey
and Hillbilly Dynamite
SJL - Posted - 11/09/2009: 17:16:35
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Originally posted by Mike Casey
Maybe part of the shipping charges include insurance? I'd check that out. I have learned to get insurance on things I have shipped. Sometimes things get highjacked or get broken. I've been dealing with Janet Davis Music for many years and they have always been honest and above board. I don't think they've changed anything in that regard.
Mike Casey
and Hillbilly Dynamite
That would make the most sense to me. It would explain why the rate changes according to the value. I bought mine directly from Bill Keith. He was great to deal with. His website is linked in a post above. "If the woman is alive at the end of the song, it ain't Bluegrass". 2007 Hatfield Walnut Custom 1976 (?) Aria Pro Tree of Life
kevin0461 - Posted - 11/09/2009: 17:20:13
I have called them and negotiated shipping for smaller items. They were very nice about it and willing to accomodate. It's as easy as calling them on the phone and asking.
Geez... they have to have some kind of policy for shipping to make it easier for online customers. It'd be VERY difficult to have a seperate shipping price for each item.
Too many people are nowadays are unwilling to pick up a phone... it's easier to just find a fault with something good and complain about it on forums like BHO.
I'm always on my kids case about the same type of thing... texting vs personal contact.
Kevin
obxpix - Posted - 11/09/2009: 17:32:45
I'm pretty confident that freedom will be ending soon to.....
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That's what is SO GREAT about the U.S.A. FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!    
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mebacon - Posted - 11/09/2009: 17:33:34
I have ordered numerous times from Janet Davis in the past year. If I ever meet her, I want to tell her how great her service has been and how pleased I have been with the products I have ordered. "It costs less than anywhere else I can get it but I want it to cost even less by changing the shipping charges" doesn't seem like much of a complaint.
Nosferatu - Posted - 11/09/2009: 17:33:59
Hatfield sells them for $225.00 and postage is $5.00. Total $230.00
Janet sells them for $220.00 and postage is $16.00. Total $236.00
Billy sells them for $220.00
It looks like if you want to mail order it...It's going to be around the same price.
Thank you,
"Count" Hugh
"I bent over him, and tried to find any sign of life, but in vain." -- Jonathan Harker, Dracula
beegee - Posted - 11/09/2009: 17:35:09
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Originally posted by philip4229
Yes. That would be Keith D-Tuners that Bill Keith designed.
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gdoc - Posted - 11/09/2009: 18:25:00
I've had great service from Janet Davis Music, and nice stock of merchindice (sp?) too. Nice to have a store like to complain about rather than have no store at all. Remember, they are there to make a profit! And maybe it an insurance thing on shipping, maybe not, maybe just profit.
But when I go to work... I want a profit at the end of the day too.
Maybe that's why they charge a consignment fee when they sell something?
gdoc
hywayman - Posted - 11/09/2009: 18:41:59
LOL beegee - I was about to post and explain exactly what you meant so you wouldn't have to. AS IF you didn't know that Bill Keith made Keith D-tuners. :-)
mybote - Posted - 11/09/2009: 18:42:36
When I call to order from Janet Davis, they answer the phone promptly, answer any questions I have, make shure they have what I need in stock, and I get my order in about a week. Yea, I think their rates on shipping are a bit high, especialy for a single bridge, but, I am guaranteed good service and I am willing to pay a little extra for that piece of mind.
klgera - Posted - 11/09/2009: 18:57:23
Janet Davis has the ivoroid buttons to fit the Keith tuners, they even made some for me especially for the standard tuners made by Keith, which has a longer shaft......great service.
Ken Gerard
rb4player - Posted - 11/09/2009: 19:10:37
Manned shipping area: $30/hr minimum (wages+overhead)
Box plus packing = $1
6 minutes on your order=$3
Shipping toll = $6
Insurance = 0-$3
$13
She charges $16? Oh, my. This one doesn't reach the "pathetic" realm for me.
Jim
Edited by - rb4player on 11/09/2009 19:12:12
Jim T - Posted - 11/09/2009: 19:14:29
Another thing to factor in is if Janet Davis has everything you need in stock. With the kind of inventory that would require, there has to be a lot of overhead that has to be made up somewhere.
Jim
Studebaker Hawk - Posted - 11/09/2009: 20:26:32
I always look at the bottom-line price (cost of item plus shipping). Sometimes Janet Davis has the lower price, sometimes not. But I will say one thing about Janet Davis Music: their customer service is second to none. And that, fellow Hangout members, is priceless.
--Dean
5stringypsy - Posted - 11/09/2009: 21:07:31
The Amazon thing was right on.. generalized Postage probably has some to do with insurance. Still not bad, when you shop it like all the examples given. I like the Out The Door concept, I kinda go that route, but then again.. I AM a car dealer lol... J.D. Music has never been anything but helpfull, informative, courteous (and to spoon feed someone like me answers to banjo noob questions on a regular basis..you gotta be pretty nice lol..) and just ask on shipping for really little items that cost allot but don't weigh.. It's not like they're Wal_**** heh.. they are a "small business " and they do allot of business and do it whole heartedly. I'd call and place my order and just talk a sec with them. They can't bite you through the phone and the worse anyone can say is no. Squeeky wheel gets the grease
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gdoc - Posted - 11/09/2009: 21:57:33
Loyalty had to be earned for return customers... and Janet Davis Music has earned my loyalty...
This isn't to say I don't go to other stores too, because there are a lot of good ones out there and they also have earned my loyalty.... it depends on who has what when I shop, but I go to the stores where I am treated right.
If two stores I deal with had the same item, close to the same price????? OHHHHHH tough choice then.... I guess the first one I found it at.
A hundred years from now,,, $6 won't mean much to me. But having what I want will.
gdoc
kevin0461 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 02:38:43
I think someone said it earlier... freedom of choice... freedom of competition... it all leads to better prices at some point. I've played the phone game between the "banjo stores" and you can get some great deals. The bottom line is they would rather make a sale than lose one. Since they have such a "pathetic shipping policy"... their is a lot of room for negotiation.
With the economy the way it is, haggling is the way of the future. Don't be afraid to haggle your price down. My wife always gets on my case and tells me I'm being cheap, but I have received some tremendous deals.
banjoy - Posted - 11/10/2009: 04:51:43
I had to think long and hard about replying to this topic, as I used to own the internet mail-order company finecases.com, which I started, so I have first-hand experience with shipping issues and costs, having shipped about 15,000 18,500 orders during the time I owned and ran the company. So, my comments offer experience from two perspectives: from having operated a mail-order business, and as a customer of Janet Davis Music, First Quality Music, etc. because I personally order from them too.
There are lots of costs involved in running a small business of course, and a mail-order business is mercy to the costs of shipping. The original poster is considering only his specific purchase and not considering other factors. For example, it is a basic reality that small orders cost the same to process as large orders, in terms of staff time, warehousing, consumed supplies, etc. So when you place a small order, say $25, at a company that does the majority of its business by shipping, the processing costs are the same as if the order had been $5,000; in all likelihood, that company just lost money on a $25 sale. (These figures are hypothetical as I don't know JDMC's internal workings).
The rate structure I see from JDMS is fair, and gives you a better deal on shipping the more you spend. Plus, it is fully disclosed to you before you make your purchase: there are no surprises, she has disclosed what you will pay, so you have the option of buying or not buying. No surprises.
I truly doubt that shipping is a profit center for Janet Davis. She is probably trying to do what everyone else is doing: to mitigate her loss to a minimum. The largest cost of shipping is the ship cost itself: UPS, FedEx, all are not cheap. We kind of forget that just about 2 years ago, gas was nearly $5 per gallon at a time when shipping costs still had not caught up yet. During these days, I lost $2000 per month to UPS and FedEx until I could re-vamp my own ship policy to cover myself and lose much less. To this day, the shipping companies are still adding a fuel surcharge to recoup their losses from two years ago and passing this to the consumer.
Also, boxes are not cheap. I would guess that at any moment Janet probably has $5,000 in empty boxes just waiting to go. I used to pay more for double wall boxes to ship cases in, and a guitar box cost me $7.00 per box. That's not cheap.
Then, too, there are hidden fees that you otherwise do pay but that you don't think about. If the widget you want is available locally, across town, you have your time and costs involved. Your time and gas is worth something. The internet offers you the ability to shop for things that you may not be able to get anywhere else, or to compare products that your could not compare otherwise, from your home. And, oh yeah -- for the majority of online buyers, sales tax does not apply. I think that has been forgotten too. That's no small thing.
So while Janet's shipping costs may seem high to you, based solely on the one item you want to buy, your order is not the only item that Janet processes and it is absolutely true that small orders costs the same to process as large orders. I see that she caps her shipping to around $16.00 or so, no matter what you spend, which is not a bad deal at all. So expect that if you spend less, that shipping will be a larger portion of your overall bill. This should not be a surprise. And, keep in mind, if you order something that is oversized, that shipping is even more because, it costs Janet much more.
With some planning you could spread the shipping cost even more. For example, why not buy that capo, or a carton of strings, or that polish you use, at the same time when you order your tuners? Small expensive items like that, added to your order, now cost you nothing extra to ship. These type of shipping policies are designed in part to encourage you to spend more, for the reasons already stated. It's a better deal for you, a better deal for the seller, to do so. But, if you must have that one item, this policy helps cover Janet's costs. I sure don't see any gouging there at all.
I'm unclear why this was vented here given the fact that Janet's policies are clear, fully disclosed in advance, and you have a choice, in fact, you have many choices of merchants. Janet Davis runs a great company, has a great reputation which is something that is earned, and she's been around the block a time or two. Her shipping policy is not arbitrary but hammered out and refined over time, based on her own experience in the business. And, as the original poster himself stated, he could have called and asked for a better deal. Why not do that, instead of post negative stuff here? I just don't get it, really.
Shipping costs a lot because shipping costs a lot. It's really that simple. Don't believe it? Take a box -- any box, even an empty box -- to UPS and have them price it for you to ship a few states over. That may wake you up to the reality that Janet and every merchant who ships, has to face, every day. I think you will be stunned at the prices quoted to you to ship an empty box. Now add weight to that box. Try it. This will be a wake up call to you. A tiny empty box will still cost no less than $5 to ship, up to $10 across county, even if nothing is in the box. If the box the large enough for a guitar case will cost about $40 to ship across country, even if the box has only air in it. Try it.
Also, let's not forget that Janet Davis has been an enthusiastic supporter of BHO and has provided give-aways to BHO at various times. She does this because she wants to, not because she has to. I note that she also sponsors Steve Kaufmann's Acoustic Kamps as well as other high-profile events which I know with certainty cost her some bucks. Again, she does this because she wants to, not because she has to. I think as a basic courtesy to Janet that you could of picked up a phone and talked to her about her policies and I'll bet you she would have taken time for you.
--Frank
Edited by - banjoy on 11/10/2009 20:04:31
Joe Jakonczuk - Posted - 11/10/2009: 05:27:41
I heard through the rumor mill Janet Davis doesn't like me one bit even though I have never met or talked to her. However, I will defend her in this instance. I just ordered a Murphy Henry beginner bass DVD for my wife. The going price at other companies was $29.95 plus shipping. From her it was $23.95 plus $4.80 shipping. Fortunately I have a resale number on file there so I don't have to pay state sales tax of about 8%. We are both in Arkansas so it would apply otherwise. You can also call and negotiate the shipping charge as they seem to be reasonable and use some common sense. Shipping charges should be based on weight, cost of materials, and labor for packaging. Be careful when buying from Ebay as some make their money on those charges.
Gold Star GF-85 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 05:40:43
I have had good luck with both Janet Davis and Elderly, but it will probably all be pretty equal in the end a buck or two where ever you go.
Big John,
1987 Gibson Earl Scruggs Standard
1986 Stelling Sunflower
steve davis - Posted - 11/10/2009: 05:56:56
It's too bad when someone vents in this way rather than talk to the other party and settle whatever problem they have.
It's kind of like throwing a tantrum in public.
philip4229 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 06:26:58
Every man is entitled to his own opinion. Sheesh, what kind of response was I expecting from the overly uptight bluegrass army? I just felt a little taken over. Little do you know is that I have once been down this road with JDMC on a small object order in the past and their response was basically...hmmm, yea sorry... thats the policy, you're SOL. I paid for it then...probably gonna end up paying for it again.
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John Allison - Posted - 11/10/2009: 06:50:33
I have always had great service from Janet Davis. But if you are not satisfied, there are other fine places to shop including Elderly, First Quality as well as going to Bill Keith himself.
Froggie
"Courage is Fear that has said its prayers.
Getzik9009 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 07:13:36
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jhedblom Posted - 11/09/2009 : 20:14:19
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Thats quite a snotty attitude getzek9009 I think you could benefit from a good colonic. it would help relieve your obvious condition. Best advice; Shop by price not loyalty unless there is a reason for the loyalty. Jack H
Jack you bet I am snotty. Bad business is never wanted by any company. It's tollerated. The good customer ends up paying for it. My family has had a bike business for 30 years. Dad put 4 of us through college. I'm sure JDM does the same thing we do in our store and roll our eyes when certain people walk in the door. You have the arrogant customer who thinks they are doing you a favor and you have the nice person. In the bike business word spreads fast who the problem customers are. It gets to a point where nobody wants his business. It is not worth it. Here on the HO the complainer makes himself public to all the builders and suppliers who lurk on the HO. Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot in public. I've been working on starting a bike HO like the banjo HO. It is a great way for a business to meet the customer before hand. It helps us develop a price structure. I work every Saturday for my Dad. I watch him match any internet price to a fair customer and help them out. + I've also watched him charge list price. As he says; I do it for those who deserve it. I bet you Bill is ecstatic for your business right now.
The Old Timer - Posted - 11/10/2009: 07:27:54
I do a lot of catalog shopping, and used to work tangentially with the catalog industry.
This type of shipping rate structure is almost the norm in the catalog business. There is nothing unique about the Janet Davis outfit using it.
I agree, "it doesn't seem fair to charge so much for small, lightweight items", but there it is.
I have a stack of catalogs on my kitchen table right now for all kinds of products, food, clothing, books, etc. that use this same method.
When I feel inspired, I shop hard to find the combination of lowest price and lowest shipping costs.
Someone responded with an excellent suggestion, call Janet Davis and try to negotiate!
The Old Timer
"This here man is such a sap, he won't hold you on his lap, unless you are an old five string banjo!" Lester Flatt singing to Pearl about Earl Scruggs as husband material
chaosfrailer - Posted - 11/10/2009: 07:46:46
This is just repetition at this point, but I've been ordering from JDMC for a long time, and they've been great. As a matter of fact, they are the only online site I've ordered from that aint screwed me over at some point. I just ordered a banjo from them last week, and they are fantastic to deal with. Whats $9 these days? A pack of smokes and a diet Mt. Dew?
Take care, but take it!-Harold Hausenfluck
philip4229 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 08:01:51
Problem Solved. At my moment of break down before submitting my order online with JDMC...I decided to call Bill. He was great...he is going to fit the tuners with Ivoroid buttons for free, and he is only charging me $5.50 for shipping.
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Alex Z - Posted - 11/10/2009: 08:07:08
philip4229 -- I'd agree that some of the responses here have gotten off the mark. No need for anyone to scold you for raising a legitimate economic question.
Consider: quote:
probably gonna end up paying for it again
And consider why you may pay again. If the reason is that you'll be able to get everything you want (tuners, buttons) at a total price less than you can get ALL of these things by other means or other suppliers separately, then you've made a good economic decision. If not, then best to go with the other suppliers -- as you may already know. Alex Z
Edited by - Alex Z on 11/10/2009 08:07:50
thkidd - Posted - 11/10/2009: 08:08:21
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Originally posted by The Old Timer
I do a lot of catalog shopping, and used to work tangentially with the catalog industry.
This type of shipping rate structure is almost the norm in the catalog business. There is nothing unique about the Janet Davis outfit using it.
I agree, "it doesn't seem fair to charge so much for small, lightweight items", but there it is.
I have a stack of catalogs on my kitchen table right now for all kinds of products, food, clothing, books, etc. that use this same method.
When I feel inspired, I shop hard to find the combination of lowest price and lowest shipping costs.
Someone responded with an excellent suggestion, call Janet Davis and try to negotiate!
The Old Timer
I hate to keep beating this dead horse, but I agree with the Old Timer. Most of the mail/internet order companies that I deal with have this same shipping cost structure (except for those mega companies like Amazon). It certainly makes it difficult to justify buying a $5.00 item and having to pay $6.95 for shipping, but that's their policy. I usually work around this by ordering several items at the same time (box of strings, picks, tuner, DVD/CD, etc.) to spread the shipping costs over the lot. Darrell "Measure your wealth not by the things you have but by the things for which you would not take money."
philip4229 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 08:34:54
I can see where the system originally comes from. The catalog system is dated though. Technology arrived a long time ago...that's why we are all here in this "Holy Communion". If you are going to be one of the six kingpin acoustic dealers online, than you should try to conform to a modern way of of conducting operations. There has to come a time when you get rid of the manual card slider and the type writer...as well as flat rate, catalog shipping rates.
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philip4229 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 08:35:53
But heck....IF Janet Davis can keep you people paying for the shipping, she has nothing to worry about.
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Nosferatu - Posted - 11/10/2009: 09:16:46
philip4229:
Do you want Janet to pay for shipping? IF dealers start doing that...Prices will go up because the S&H dosen't go into the stores coffers...It goes to the people who do the shipping. The stores will have to cover their losses some way.
About Bill and the buttons/tuners, he's just exchanging the reg. buttons for the ivoroid buttons and it's really not for free because he'll be keeping the buttons that come with the tuners. The S&H will be $5.50, that's $0.50 more than Hatfield charges for the same. You may save $9.50 on S&H but you lose two buttons. What do buttons run now a days? About $4.00 each? Water will seek it's own level.
Let's see...If I go to the store and pick the tuners up.
$07.00 for gas. THAT's if the music store in my town even HAS the tuners.
$05.00 for my time..I work cheap.
$16.00 for tax on $220.00
$28.00 total
I think I'd make out better paying $16.00 for S&H and having the item delivered to my door.
Thank you,
"Count" Hugh
"I bent over him, and tried to find any sign of life, but in vain." -- Jonathan Harker, Dracula
Edited by - Nosferatu on 11/10/2009 09:42:53
RB11 Player - Posted - 11/10/2009: 09:52:30
Nosferatu:
Some are clueless. Just another banjo owner doing his part to keep the historic perception of the banjo player fresh in the mind of the non enthusiast.
Edited by - RB11 Player on 11/10/2009 09:53:28
Nosferatu - Posted - 11/10/2009: 10:00:53
Funny RB11...you made my day.
Thank you,
"Count" Hugh
"I bent over him, and tried to find any sign of life, but in vain." -- Jonathan Harker, Dracula
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