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beeliner - Posted - 11/10/2009: 05:10:21
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Originally posted by dmiller
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Originally posted by beeliner
Try "Bible Baptist Bookstore" dhays@kjv1611.org Check books by Sam Gipp or Peter S Ruckman They have the info you are looking for.
beeliner. Revis Martin. When a man's ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him. Proverbs 16:7 [KJV]
Thank You Revis, I'll do that.  For your info, I was raised Catholic, got involved with a Jesus Freak group in the early 1970's, then ended up in a cult. After I got out of the cult (25 years ago), I ended up checking out several different churches, and the Baptist church (as well as a Messianic Jewish Congregation) that I ended up participating in for a while especially gave me a lot of food for thought.
I used to think "I knew it all" way back when, concerning spiritual matters.
I'm smarter now than then, realizing that many have much to offer and I don't "know it all" like I used to.  .
Thanks for the link - - - I'll definitely check it out.
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The best way to get the info is to Google "Bible Baptist Bookstore". The email is usually bogged down with orders. beeliner. Revis Martin. When a man's ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him. Proverbs 16:7 [KJV]
Edited by - beeliner on 11/10/2009 05:12:14
BConk - Posted - 11/10/2009: 08:17:00
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Originally posted by pick1936
if You study it out completely The Dead Sea Scrolls, bear out everything , plus agree with The K.J.V. Bible, The only true bible, like Revis said, I looked it up, and You can to, evreytime a new Version comes out, It (HAS TO HAVE A DOCTRINAL CHANGE),, NO kidding, look it up, The only REAL bible is The King James Bible,
Lee Kelso
Where on earth did you get the notion that this was an appropriate thing to say here? Do you not understand the meaning of the words "religious debate"? Doesn't it occur to you that there are any number of Christians here that believe otherwise - yet you calmly claim that there bibles are false?  "Defender of the Sacred Cod" Capio pisces, ergo sum
Thor - Posted - 11/10/2009: 08:31:36
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Originally posted by J-Walk
Good question! There are so many different bible versions that it becomes a difficult decision. I prefer the so-called "fundamentalist" approach, which states that the Bible is the actual word of God, and is inerrant.
My absolute favorite site for Bible information is Answers In Genesis.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/
I visit that site at least once a week. Always something new! The blog, by Ken Ham, is also excellent.
My second favorite bible-related site is Benny Hinn Ministries. Benny, as you probably know, uses God to perform amazing healing:
http://www.bennyhinn.org
Whichever bible you choose, I wish you good luck with your studies.
Good post...
...but you forgot:
http://www.chick.com/default.asp
I've learned a lot from that site. (also Westboro Baptist Church).
minstrelmike - Posted - 11/10/2009: 09:23:35
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Originally posted by Alpha Omicron
You might try just reading the Bible through and making your own conclusions first.
Except if you make that choice, then you have already selected Protestantism over Catholicism (not that there's anything wrong with that). Every choice is a new decision and every guide brings his or her own perspective. Mike Moxcey http://moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/index.html
mike gregory - Posted - 11/10/2009: 09:49:52
The deity must be, by definition, infinite.
Mere mortal men cannot comprehend the infinite in its entirety, so there will be different perspectives.
If one's belief system includes a sincere belief that improperly perceiving the deity will result in terrible punishment, then it would reasonably follow that one would defend one's own perceptions, from any alternative views.
The most common defenses are to label alternative viewpoints as unfortunately ignorant, or deliberately evil.
This is why I predicted that there would, eventually, be a fight about this thread.
I cannot help but notice, in the KJV, that Jesus said that if a person believes that a mountain will move, has faith that the mountain will move, then it's BYE-BYE, mountain!
(A very loose translation of the original Aramaic, but close enough for Folk Music.)
Now, being Infinitely Wise, Jesus was careful NOT to say that one must tell the mountain to move by the power of any specific god or goddess, or group thereof.
So, when my dear old momma, 92 years a FAITHFUL member of a mainstream Christian church, approached those gates, I imagine that she had FAITH that her study of, and adherence to, the words which Jesus spoke (as recorded in the KJV) would be enough to squeak open the gates, and she'd be in.
And I cannot imagine Jesus welcoming her, and then asking her
"Hey, wait! I didn't say you MUST believe that the mountains about which I spoke, are any particular age...BUT! Did you believe they must be less than ten thousand years old?"
And she replies
"Since it wasn't important to You, my Lord, I didn't worry about it one way or the other."
And then Jesus says "Oh, you go to HELL, you old bidge! How DARE you not have absolute faith in something I never spoke of?"
So, since this is a thread about finding an online Bible course, does anybody know of a course I can take, that will teach me to believe that a strict acceptance of the entire book of Genesis is an inerrant account of the 144 hours it took to go from zero, to a planet full of mammals is a necessary requirement for admission to Paradise?
And especially, I need one that will teach me to agree that Mom deserves eternal torment, for not having found that out, about the mountains, in her 92 years of regular participation in Christianity.
Either
absloute literal belief in every line of Genesis IS required for admission into paradise,
or
absloute literal belief in every line of Genesis IS NOT required for admission into paradise.
And that's where the fight has already started.
beeliner - Posted - 11/10/2009: 10:11:20
Thor, I agree with the link you posted, that's a good place to get information.
beeliner. Revis Martin. When a man's ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him. Proverbs 16:7 [KJV]
pick1936 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 10:34:44
Brian, What are You talking about?? The dead Sea Scrolls, and the KJV, have been being discused from the start here, Remember The Title is BIBLE STUDY.. We are not trying to get Religion envolved here,, We are trying to to advise on what books, and By who, to do Bible study, And as to what Revis stated above, Goggle (DR Samuel Gipp, Bible Anwer Man), and He has maybe not all The answers, But
enough To satisfy Most people, I can get on this site, and spend hours.
Wood Is Good
nechille In Higginsville.
Lee Kelso
Edited by - pick1936 on 11/10/2009 10:36:09
FatManMary - Posted - 11/10/2009: 15:09:03
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Originally posted by edsnyder
Just to help out a bit.
http://atheistbiblestudy.blogspot.com/
http://atheistsbiblecompanion.com/
Not trying to anger anyone, but there are many points of view for bible study.
Ed e
You're only young once, but you can be immature forever!
Now that's something I've always looked for. Thanks for that. I've always wondered when one goes to Bible study do you at least touch on the non canonical books or ignore them completely? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Grand Ole Opry Ain't So Grand Anymore http://www.reinstatehank.org/
BConk - Posted - 11/10/2009: 15:21:30
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Originally posted by pick1936
Brian, What are You talking about?? The dead Sea Scrolls, and the KJV, have been being discused from the start here, Remember The Title is BIBLE STUDY.. We are not trying to get Religion envolved here,, We are trying to to advise on what books, and By who, to do Bible study, And as to what Revis stated above, Goggle (DR Samuel Gipp, Bible Anwer Man), and He has maybe not all The answers, But
enough To satisfy Most people, I can get on this site, and spend hours.
Wood Is Good
nechille In Higginsville.
Lee Kelso
What I'm talking about is your statement "The only REAL bible is The King James Bible, " My father studied the bible throughout his entire life - but, according to you, since he was a Catholic, he never read "The Real Bible" BULL@#$#@!! Then you seem to go on to claim that since the original post was a question about Bible study it must be about the KJV? Why? Is it because of your own belief that ther KJV is the only real bible? My point is Lee - you seem to have no qualms whatsoever in dismissing the validity of any other version of the Bible other than the KJV yet there are PLENTY of Christians who do not read the KJV and yet you say "do unto others"? How would you like it if I said the KJV was not a real bible? And that any Bible study can't use the KJV because it's not really a Bible at all? and how the heck do you keep from "envolving" religion in a post about Bible study?? "Defender of the Sacred Cod" Capio pisces, ergo sum
beeliner - Posted - 11/10/2009: 15:26:43
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Originally posted by Thor
quote:
Originally posted by J-Walk
Good question! There are so many different bible versions that it becomes a difficult decision. I prefer the so-called "fundamentalist" approach, which states that the Bible is the actual word of God, and is inerrant.
My absolute favorite site for Bible information is Answers In Genesis.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/
I visit that site at least once a week. Always something new! The blog, by Ken Ham, is also excellent.
My second favorite bible-related site is Benny Hinn Ministries. Benny, as you probably know, uses God to perform amazing healing:
http://www.bennyhinn.org
Whichever bible you choose, I wish you good luck with your studies.
Good post...
...but you forgot:
http://www.chick.com/default.asp
I've learned a lot from that site. (also Westboro Baptist Church).
If the bible is inerrant, and I believe it is,which one? They don't all say the same thing. Many translations leave out entire verses. The NIV doesn't have the word "Calvary" in it. All the new versions attack the Deity of Christ and the blood atonement. beeliner. Revis Martin. When a man's ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him. Proverbs 16:7 [KJV]
MarkRough - Posted - 11/10/2009: 15:34:39
Well, this is a source I use.
But then again, I swing that way. There are more Orthodox commentaries if you want to go that way.
http://urj.org/learning/torah/
Oh wait, you mean that bible.
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Some days you're the dog. . . other days you're the hydrant.
MTBanjo - Posted - 11/10/2009: 15:38:05
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Originally posted by atracksler
I do as well alpha.... I was looking for a supplement for my daily readings and devotions. I'm trying to watch and read less news and get deeper into the word.
I cant see any reason to get into a fight on this one....
P.S. Have a Nice Day!
http://www.brycecreative.com
http://www.mandojam.com -- free practice tracks from me to you!
http://www.studio467.com
Well...your optimism (or naivete  ) is refreshing, but...do you see the reasons yet? We can fight about darn near anything around here. All it takes is one person who just can't let what someone else said go unchallenged, or one instigator that someone just can't ignore. That's what comes of such a large population all having a conversation with each other. In person, you can only talk to so many people at once and people are typically polite, but not so here in the online world. Eventually someone will jump in... Mike, great posts and even though people are doing the right thing by ignoring you, I sort of wish they wouldn't.  Zach
Edited by - MTBanjo on 11/10/2009 15:39:08
BConk - Posted - 11/10/2009: 15:43:59
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Originally posted by minstrelmike
quote:
...and yet you say "do unto others"...
That's only in certain translations ;-)
Mike Moxcey
http://moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/index.html
and only need be mentioned when it applies to others doing unto you? "Defender of the Sacred Cod" Capio pisces, ergo sum
Edited by - BConk on 11/10/2009 15:45:54
jazzylynne - Posted - 11/10/2009: 15:48:01
Calm down please folks...
If this turns into a debate about which religion is best it will be locked.
Lynne
BConk - Posted - 11/10/2009: 15:59:05
I'd say it already has Lynne - the opening arguments were made long ago when the claim was made that only one version of the bible is real. To restrict anyone from offering a contrary opinion now would be to take sides yourself if only by default. The fair thing to do - IMO is lock the thread or go back and sanitize it by eliminating BOTH the opening arguments and the counter arguments.
"Defender of the Sacred Cod"
Capio pisces, ergo sum
J-Walk - Posted - 11/10/2009: 16:14:15
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The fair thing to do - IMO is lock the thread or go back and sanitize it by eliminating BOTH the opening arguments and the counter arguments.
Better yet, just don't allow these types of topics. They almost ALWAYS turn argumentative. There are hundreds of sites on the Web where religion is discussed. Why is it so important that banjo players must be allowed to discuss religion here? Makes no sense at all. I envision moderators monitoring these threads every five minutes to make sure no one gets out of line. A waste of time. It pretty much boils down to this: Religion is a valid topic at the Banjo Hangout -- but only if no one posts a comment that's contrary to the original poster's beliefs. That, by definition, is argumentative.
Sultans of Claw - Posted - 11/10/2009: 16:24:32
It's all Greek to me.
Lee Callicutt
KE - Posted - 11/10/2009: 16:30:31
atracksler asked a fair question. Without knowing, it would appear he's sincere.
If you have a nice white carpet, and someone tracks mud on it, you don't blame the carpet. You clean up the mud, and perhaps suggest that in the future the mud-tracker remove their shoes or stay outdoors.
mike gregory - Posted - 11/10/2009: 16:34:50
I've got to leave the house soon, so IF you lock it, please don't also DELETE it until I've had a chance to cut and paste everything from the top of page 3 onward.
I want a record of this, and only got so far.
I stand by the principles outlined in my "God's Hat" poem, on my BHO blog.
It would be reasonable to assume that an Infinitely Wise deity would be wise enough to prefer that we utilise our finitely measurable number of minutes of life, doing more useful things than arguing about the "real" color of its hat.
Banjo picking might be an altrnative to arguing.
Any of you people know where you might find a banjo nearby where you are RIGHT NOW?
pick1936 - Posted - 11/10/2009: 18:40:49
I'm not saying anything else, Do what You like, I like all You banjo pickers, I think I'll pick banjo,, Good luck.
Nechville. In Higginsville.
Lee Kelso
dmiller - Posted - 11/10/2009: 19:45:25
I hope I say this right, without ruffling any feathers.
I'm thinking that some are confusing (not deliberately so or anything like that) - - -
1.) a bible study that gives a range of information from several perspectives; and
2.) a bible study that follows a certain denominational or theological precept.
The difference (as I see it) is that the study offered by the church/ denomination/ or particular group of choice
will (generally) provide info and conclusions usually espoused by the group offering the study, whereas if one goes into general research/ study/ etc., with a group that holds no denominational affiliation, the study will be more broad reaching and "all inclusive" since it will include outlooks and observations from several sources that may offer differing opinions (hopefully) based on academic credentials that hold water.
When I got my last car (Subaru), I asked around about the qualities of the car. Good? Bad? Why? That sort of thing.
If I wanted to hear only the good about Subaru's particular features, I'd have gone to the dealership.
Since I wanted to hear an overall consensus of reliability/ problems/ etc., I asked those with previous experience with the car.
Granted - - - buying a car isn't the same as finding a bible study, but the "background work" is the same.
Somewhere along the line (in this thread), I'm thinking the distinction between these two types of study got "muddied",
and that's when the "doo" (differences of opinion") started manifesting itself.
Just my (as usual) imo.
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mike gregory - Posted - 11/10/2009: 20:33:30
I like the parable of the Subaru, dmiller.
A Bible study, like a car, can be just what you need, to get you where you want to go.
brokenstrings - Posted - 11/10/2009: 21:31:25
Folks, apparently you are getting back on topic. That's fine. I don't want to see any more arguments on versions of the Bible, neither from the translator's or literary person's point of view nor from the theological.
Jessy
Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!
pandjlocke - Posted - 11/10/2009: 21:50:36
Jessy, you gotta quit usin' all them big words.
Beware of the urgent crowding out the important - C.E. Hummel
Paddy
atracksler - Posted - 11/11/2009: 04:44:23
Wow, this topic really exploded. Definitely not my intent. Thanks for all the actual suggestions for online bible study programs. I will be checking them out. Hopefully something will work out for me. I appreciate all the heartfelt suggestions. I did not want to turn this into a bible version debate. Especially since I just wanted some suggestions for bible study. (I figured anyone who had a suggesstion would chime in, if not then they wouldnt... The same way if someone asked for a recipe for soup, or something...)
If you have any other suggestions, I'd love to hear them. I keep a few different translations around so that I can read something a few different ways and gain perspective on a verse or two.
P.S. Have a Nice Day!
http://www.brycecreative.com
http://www.mandojam.com -- free practice tracks from me to you!
http://www.studio467.com
mike gregory - Posted - 11/11/2009: 06:08:32
Paddy Locke, you don't like big words?
Here's little words.
HEY! NOT FIGHT!
A rather loose translation from the original Jessy,
but close enough for banjo playing.
And speaking of banjo playing, my old Framus sounds a whole lot quieter, almost inaudible, when I do TIMIMT TIMIMT while barred across the 5th fret.
Is that an example of one of those "Dead C rolls" ?
MarkRough - Posted - 11/11/2009: 06:12:52
Doh! Good one!
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Some days you're the dog. . . other days you're the hydrant.
mike gregory - Posted - 11/11/2009: 06:33:38
quote:
Originally posted by MarkRough
Doh! Good one!
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Some days you're the dog. . . other days you're the hydrant.
Since a scholarly explanation of why it MUST develop into a fight, and a heartfelt plea for an explanation of why an Infinitely Merciful and Infinitely Loving deity would banish my dear old momma to eternal torment for doubting thirty-three lines, out of a 475 page book, have not resulted in any useful information, I have returned to being a clown. The choices, from my perspective, are to  weep or to laugh. As for my personal relationship with the creator, that's between me and my undiscussable deity or lack therof. I stand by the post I made, years ago: (Here I quotes meself, it being the most appropraite) I do not have the arrogance to insist that anyone worship any perception of any creator in any specific way. But I do suggest that one should be IMPRESSED by any creator who can fill every portion of this planet with a huge variety of animals, and still have enough spare parts left over to cobble together an entire platypus.
rjanecek - Posted - 11/11/2009: 06:46:46
.
God Bless America
Rick
RWJones1970 - Posted - 11/11/2009: 07:17:20
*** Online Bible Study? My favorite place to go is GTY.org
I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes. (Romans 1:16)
mike gregory - Posted - 11/11/2009: 07:59:46
quote:
Originally posted by rjanecek
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God Bless America
Rick
America is a nation, with a political system. The mere mention of anything Political may start yet another fight. Hey, NO FIGHTING!(A translation from the Message of Jessy unto the Outhangers )
gshall - Posted - 11/11/2009: 08:08:46
Perhaps the proper inoffensive verbiage is:
The undiscussable diety or lack thereof bless the nation of my preference (or lack thereof) that has an undiscussable political system... ?
I could be some 50 year old dude sitting around in stained shorts resting my pizza on my beer belly, except I'm too old.
Jerry
pandjlocke - Posted - 11/11/2009: 08:18:42
quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory
Paddy Locke, you don't like big words?
Here's little words.
HEY! NOT FIGHT!
A rather loose translation from the original Jessy,
but close enough for banjo playing.
And speaking of banjo playing, my old Framus sounds a whole lot quieter, almost inaudible, when I do TIMIMT TIMIMT while barred across the 5th fret.
Is that an example of one of those "Dead C rolls" ?
That's better. Beware of the urgent crowding out the important - C.E. Hummel Paddy
MTBanjo - Posted - 11/12/2009: 09:17:56
The original post (and first few replies) were completely legit and fine. But this long ago turned into religeous debate. That's why religeous topics aren't (I thought) allowed.
Zach
J-Walk - Posted - 11/12/2009: 09:55:21
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That's why religeous topics aren't (I thought) allowed.
Religious topics aren't allowed, according to the description of this forum:  But this thread is proof that religious topics really ARE allowed -- as long as everyone agrees with the original poster. In other words, this is the only forum on the BHO where members are not allowed to actually respond with their opinions. When that happens, the thread gets locked. I love BHO, but Erich really needs to clarify the rules. I still don't understand why people feel the need to talk about religion in a banjo forum. There are other sites for that.
dat - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:10:06
as I figured out on the evolution thread, asking where to find info is ok, even though they have more lee way on that one. nothing wrong with asking for refrence to a subject.
I'm glad people want to find out more about the bible and hope this thread gets to stay without getting into to much debate
noli illegitimi carborundum
everybody needs at least one gun for every year old that they are, having a few extras don't hurt
Edited by - dat on 11/12/2009 10:11:18
pandjlocke - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:10:08
The question might be: Why do you want to stir up trouble? The original post is a perfectly harmless question. If you don't have a VALID answer, don't post. Seems simple to me. And, as in any aspect of life, a little humor thrown in is always a welcome addition. Gotta keep the smile muscles working.
Beware of the urgent crowding out the important - C.E. Hummel
Paddy
minstrelmike - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:25:09
quote:
...If you don't have a VALID answer, don't post. Seems simple to me....
and it seems like it would apply to any thread anyplace on BHO or on the internet or to any conversation in real life, but apparently, it ain't that simple. People might be simple, but their combinations of behavior rarely are. Mike Moxcey http://moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/index.html
Mopick - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:32:08
quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory
The deity must be, by definition, infinite.
Mere mortal men cannot comprehend the infinite in its entirety, so there will be different perspectives.
If one's belief system includes a sincere belief that improperly perceiving the deity will result in terrible punishment, then it would reasonably follow that one would defend one's own perceptions, from any alternative views.
The most common defenses are to label alternative viewpoints as unfortunately ignorant, or deliberately evil.
This is why I predicted that there would, eventually, be a fight about this thread.
I cannot help but notice, in the KJV, that Jesus said that if a person believes that a mountain will move, has faith that the mountain will move, then it's BYE-BYE, mountain!
(A very loose translation of the original Aramaic, but close enough for Folk Music.)
Now, being Infinitely Wise, Jesus was careful NOT to say that one must tell the mountain to move by the power of any specific god or goddess, or group thereof.
So, when my dear old momma, 92 years a FAITHFUL member of a mainstream Christian church, approached those gates, I imagine that she had FAITH that her study of, and adherence to, the words which Jesus spoke (as recorded in the KJV) would be enough to squeak open the gates, and she'd be in.
And I cannot imagine Jesus welcoming her, and then asking her
"Hey, wait! I didn't say you MUST believe that the mountains about which I spoke, are any particular age...BUT! Did you believe they must be less than ten thousand years old?"
And she replies
"Since it wasn't important to You, my Lord, I didn't worry about it one way or the other."
And then Jesus says "Oh, you go to HELL, you old bidge! How DARE you not have absolute faith in something I never spoke of?"
So, since this is a thread about finding an online Bible course, does anybody know of a course I can take, that will teach me to believe that a strict acceptance of the entire book of Genesis is an inerrant account of the 144 hours it took to go from zero, to a planet full of mammals is a necessary requirement for admission to Paradise?
And especially, I need one that will teach me to agree that Mom deserves eternal torment, for not having found that out, about the mountains, in her 92 years of regular participation in Christianity.
Either
absloute literal belief in every line of Genesis IS required for admission into paradise,
or
absloute literal belief in every line of Genesis IS NOT required for admission into paradise.
And that's where the fight has already started.
Well Mike, if you are going to use the words of Jehoshua as taken from the new testament. He never said anything about believing in mountains or the age thereof to gain admission to the kingdom. He said, "Believe in ME." That's it. I live in the mountains..... The mountainous region of Central Florida. Sugarloaf Mountain; 312 feet above sea level. http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...albumid=3256Randy
Edited by - Mopick on 11/12/2009 10:36:05
pandjlocke - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:40:38
quote:
Originally posted by minstrelmike
quote:
...If you don't have a VALID answer, don't post. Seems simple to me....
and it seems like it would apply to any thread anyplace on BHO or on the internet or to any conversation in real life, but apparently, it ain't that simple.
People might be simple, but their combinations of behavior rarely are.
Mike Moxcey
http://moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/index.html
Mike, I certainly agree with you, but if it is your INTENT to merely stir the pot of trouble, then my question remains, "Why?" Beware of the urgent crowding out the important - C.E. Hummel Paddy
J-Walk - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:45:59
quote:
as I figured out on the evolution thread, asking where to find info is ok,
I don't understand your point at all. Evolution has nothing to do with religion. Evolution is a "science" topic, and science is allowed here. What if someone asked for information like this: "What is the best way to save my soul from eternal damnation?" Is asking for that type of information OK with you? quote:
If you don't have a VALID answer, don't post.
I have an answer that I consider to be perfectly valid. However, if I posted it, the thread would be locked. Like I said, these types of threads are allowed as long as no one disagrees with the poster.
BConk - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:48:25
quote:
Originally posted by dat
as I figured out on the evolution thread, asking where to find info is ok, even though they have more lee way on that one. nothing wrong with asking for refrence to a subject.
I'm glad people want to find out more about the bible and hope this thread gets to stay without getting into to much debate
noli illegitimi carborundum
everybody needs at least one gun for every year old that they are, having a few extras don't hurt
The difference being that the rules don't say "Religious, political and scientific topics are not allowed here" they just prohibit religion and politics. No matter how some members here choose to look at it - Evolution is a scientific subject - it's no more a religion or a political ideology than meteorology is a religious or political subject. Unless the rules are changed to include science as well - we're free to discuss it to our heart's content - as long as we don't post on the religious or political ramifications of that science. As far as the rules are concerned, the only rule breakers in the thread on Evolution are those that argue against it based on religious beliefs. Because religious debates are prohibited here. "Defender of the Sacred Cod" Capio pisces, ergo sum
Edited by - BConk on 11/12/2009 10:53:45
BConk - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:49:27
Jwalk - it appears we're posting on the same question at the same time
"Defender of the Sacred Cod"
Capio pisces, ergo sum
J-Walk - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:53:10
Just to clarify. I'm not trying to stir up trouble here. I'm sincerely trying to make the BHO a better place.
BConk - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:54:47
Sometimes, to do that you need to stir up trouble.
"Defender of the Sacred Cod"
Capio pisces, ergo sum
minstrelmike - Posted - 11/12/2009: 11:06:13
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...if it is your INTENT to merely stir the pot of trouble, then my question remains, "Why?"
I agree, but 1. There are trolls that just like to stir up trouble and 2. I can't really ascertain what someone's real intent is when they ask a question. I'm not even that sure about my own motivations all the time. I can't judge someone else's. That's why I say get rid of the topic rule completely and only focus on bad behavior. But to do that, the mods need more tools than warnings or complete banishment. I think restricting bad-mouthed or bad-behaviored folks to one posting/day would at least keep their number of posts down and might encourage a little self-policing since you only get the one post. As it stands now, anyone who wants to shut down this topic can, but no one can really shut down a banjo-based topic, the mods would deal with the behavior. Currently, they try to make the impossible distinction between allowed politics and disallowed politics. Mike Moxcey http://moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/index.html Page: 1 2 3
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