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DENNISNDODIE - Posted - 11/04/2009: 13:34:36
How far apart should the nut notches and bridge notches be apart on a standard bridge and nut.
Its only a flesh wound (The black knight)
steve davis - Posted - 11/04/2009: 13:36:58
1/3 of an inch
Thor - Posted - 11/04/2009: 13:39:53
Which "standard"? 
DENNISNDODIE - Posted - 11/04/2009: 13:44:32
I know of crow spacing and standard spacing dont know of any others. quote:
Originally posted by Thor
Which "standard"?
Its only a flesh wound (The black knight)
DENNISNDODIE - Posted - 11/04/2009: 13:45:47
I cant find 1/3 on a tape measure. quote:
Originally posted by steve davis
1/3 of an inch
Its only a flesh wound (The black knight)
steve davis - Posted - 11/04/2009: 13:49:39
I get my outside(1 and 4) strings as close to the edge as I can which
leaves the strings about 1/8 inch inside the ends of the first fret.
The overall on my conversion is 1 inch.
I'm speaking of the nut.
Edited by - steve davis on 11/04/2009 13:51:26
steve davis - Posted - 11/04/2009: 13:56:46
If you have a 1 inch overall 16 divided by 3 is 5.333 16ths.
Thor - Posted - 11/04/2009: 13:59:56
quote:
Originally posted by DENNISNDODIE
I know of crow spacing and standard spacing dont know of any others.
Yep... those are two different spacings.
My bridge has 2" string spacing, and 11/32" between the strings at the nut-- which kinda tells me there isn't really one "standard".
If this is something you're doing yourself, I think you can do whatever spacing you find most comfortable for both hands, as long as the strings don't fall off the edges of the fretboard. 
beegee - Posted - 11/04/2009: 14:03:33
I set my outside strings at 3/64-1/8" from the ends of the first fret and use my Stew-Mac proportional spacing rule to set the inside strings. I use a standard 11/16" Scorpion bridge, not Crowe spacing.
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DENNISNDODIE - Posted - 11/04/2009: 14:06:34
That is precisely my problem the low d string is to close to the edge. Ive never seen a store bought banjo with a 2 inch neck so I would say my definition of standard is store bought not custom. quote:
Originally posted by Thor
quote:
Originally posted by DENNISNDODIE
I know of crow spacing and standard spacing dont know of any others.
Yep... those are two different spacings.
My bridge has 2" string spacing, and 11/32" between the strings at the nut-- which kinda tells me there isn't really one "standard".
If this is something you're doing yourself, I think you can do whatever spacing you find most comfortable for both hands, as long as the strings don't fall off the edges of the fretboard.
Its only a flesh wound (The black knight)
uncle.fogey - Posted - 11/04/2009: 14:08:11
quote:
Originally posted by DENNISNDODIE
I cant find 1/3 on a tape measure.quote:
Originally posted by steve davis
1/3 of an inch
Its only a flesh wound (The black knight)
4 12ths A man wouldn't need many plastic heads in a lifetime.
uncle.fogey - Posted - 11/04/2009: 14:18:22
Seriously, I have rulers that read in 12ths of an inch. It's an architect's and designer's thing. 12ths are divisible by 3 and 4. Also, they become a scale ruler for 1 inch=1 foot. Why did we ever come up with 16ths?
If you think this is silly, ponder the metric system. If we had to build banjos with that, I'd hang up my fret saws and make Eurocabinets.
A man wouldn't need many plastic heads in a lifetime.
rudy - Posted - 11/04/2009: 14:33:10
How many cubits would that be?
Seriously, save yourself all the ciphering by downloading the Banjo neck and fret board layout guide from my website. It's a PDF that has a series of tapered lines that can also be used quite effectively to set any spacing you desire at the nut or bridge. Once you start using it you'll toss your measuring contrivances aside, at least where dividing out distances is concerned.
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Edited by - rudy on 11/04/2009 14:36:21
Alpha Omicron - Posted - 11/04/2009: 14:37:43
If you have a metric ruler or measuring tape, 1/3" is 8.5mm, which is pretty easy to mark out.
steve davis - Posted - 11/04/2009: 14:39:22
That's handy,rudy,but it doesn't take long to set a pair of dividers and walk off a spacing.
Edited by - steve davis on 11/04/2009 14:40:15
Tele65 - Posted - 11/04/2009: 14:43:02
I've set my 1st and 4th strings 3/32" from the edges of the neck (nut) and used the StewMac string spacing ruler
to find the other positions.
Siminoff suggest the strings to be 5/16" apart at the nut, YMMV
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Edited by - Tele65 on 11/04/2009 14:44:19
bordertownbrown - Posted - 11/04/2009: 15:18:01
I'm with Steve, dividers or a compass are the way to go! The Stew-Mac spacing rule is good but it's not easy to hold both that and the nut or bridge and get a good mark.
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fynger - Posted - 11/05/2009: 07:35:08
I've been looking at an Ozark Californian open back....neck is slightly wider
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Peter Blair - Posted - 11/05/2009: 17:38:13
1/3" = 8.4666mm, . . . If you're splitting hairs.
(Just when you thought you were short one smart@$$.)
Set the outside strings where you want them, divide the remaining space by three.
Wherever you go, . . . There you are!
Pete
beegee - Posted - 11/05/2009: 20:28:33
I like the stew-mac rule because it gives proportional spacing for the distance between the outer edges of the strings, not the center cores, which is important on the 4th string spacing. I find it most valuable on guitars and mandolins, but I've gotten so used to it, I use it for banjos, as well.
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teebee - Posted - 11/12/2009: 08:43:27
How to divide a the distance into 1/3rds. layout two lines | 1" | apart or whatever distance you are needing to divide. Then lay your ruler at an angle | / | so that 0 and 1 1/8" touch each line.. That is 9/8" . Put a mark at 3/8 and 6/8 and you have divided your distance into 3 equal parts. This works for any spacing. If your original strings are 11/16 just do this and you will get 3 equal spacings Drafting 101.
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Joe Jakonczuk - Posted - 11/13/2009: 07:06:12
At the nut it depends on the width of the neck. With the older narrower necks that were about 1 3/16 inch, the spacing is about .270-.280 in. With the 1 1/4 wide nut width that is commonly used, I use .300 in. In my view the wider nut widths are easier to play.
edit: 1/3 of an inch is .333 in which would be too wide causing the 1st and 4th strings to be too close to the edge of the fingerboard in my view.
Edited by - Joe Jakonczuk on 11/13/2009 07:09:51
steve davis - Posted - 11/13/2009: 07:52:20
If the distance from the 1st to the 4th string notches is one inch,
then 1/3 inch spacing is right on.
teebee - Posted - 11/16/2009: 09:20:20
My friendly banjo builder suggests I use 5/16' spacing and that is measureable. Thats 15/16" across the 4 strings, or 30/32, which is pretty close to an inch. The rest of the width is divided to keep the strings on the neck when fretted, kind of like Steve said at the beginning. Siminoff suggests no less than 5/16.
To answer the second question, bridge spacing is about 27/64 or 7/16". Crowe spacing, I think, is 1/32" wider on the bridge.
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rottenwood - Posted - 11/16/2009: 09:34:08
vote # 3 for walking it off with a divider. Fast and accurate.
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