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dat - Posted - 11/05/2009: 14:57:55
with steel shot the barrel lenght doesn't make that much difference past about 24 inches, lead shot the longer the barrel the more velocity you get out to about 36 inches.
steel shot uses faster burning powder that does all it's gonna do in about 20 to 24 inches or so
noli illegitimi carborundum
everybody needs at least one gun for every year old that they are, having a few extras don't hurt
Brian T - Posted - 11/06/2009: 09:20:02
My Boito (Brazil) s/s 12ga coach gun has put more birds on the table than all my other shotguns combined. Fast swinger in the forest. If I didn't spend so much time hanging out in prime Grizz habitat, I'd carry a 20 for upland birds.
Gottatellyouall: yesterday, I was humping my Baikal o/u 12ga through open forest, actually looking at the alder log inventory as wood carving material.
Something, brushed my legs. Looking down, a big ruffed grouse had literally run between my feet! First time for that. Gave it a "brush-cut" to join the other one on the table with plum sauce for dinner last night.
We do not know where we are going.
Nor do most of us care.
For us, it is enough that we are on our way.
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Gold Star GF-85 - Posted - 11/06/2009: 14:56:25
I have used the Remington 870 for years, two different barrels and you cover a wide range of hunting usages, small game as well as Deer and turkey. I had an 1187 Remington for a few years but went back to the ole's pump action.
Big John,
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Bassora - Posted - 11/06/2009: 16:00:21
Don't know a lot about guns but I noticed in your (atracksler) logo you have a dog.
If you plan to take that beautiful border collie (?) with you on your hunting expedition, make sure it has a bright orange collar or vest (there are orange hunting vests for dogs).
There are some people out there who can't tell the difference between a thirty-five pound dog and a full grown buck.
Bassora Mo
from near the Big Mo
Gomer - Posted - 11/06/2009: 20:35:26
I have a dozen O/U but got an SBE . I have a camo tactical stock matched to a barrel with and aompoint sight and then the regular stock to a 28". it shoots and shoots and shoots.
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Solo - Posted - 11/06/2009: 23:55:26
In my larval stages I was given a Winchester model 75 .22lr, which I had a blast with. Inexpensive ammo, pretty quiet, good for honing some skills and small game. I then acquired a Remington double barrel 12ga, and when a bit older purchased a Winchester model 70 .30-06, which is a fine one and a keeper. I'd still recommend this as a deer rifle. I've always favored bolt action rifles.
10gauge - Posted - 11/09/2009: 07:42:05
quote:
Originally posted by SilverSalmon
12 gauge for birds, i Like Benelli, but they're spendy. For small game you want a 22lr, A Ruger 10/22 is the way to go, Best bang for the bucks. For a real hunting Gun, I'd go with A Remington 700 in 30.06 , it'll take any mid to large game in North America, including Moose and Elk.
If you want really cheap for small game like Rabbits and squirrel, get a Pellet Gun, something German, like Beeman. i use one on the farm all the time with great effect. Great gun for teaching kids about guns and safety and hunting.
Whatever you choose have fun.
Your certainly not alone in your preference for the Ruger 10/22. I have seen people shooting those things and at least for me there's nothing more frustrating than having to clear a dud from a semi-automatic. My 22 is a Winchester 9422. Jonathan O'bug
BConk - Posted - 11/09/2009: 07:57:43
I gotta lotta joy outta my Ruger 10/22 - I had one with a walnut stock and a scope. Quite accurate as it was - but I've seen aftermarket target barrels and stocks for them that will convert them into very serious target guns.
I'm rather fond of their Mini -14 and their Mark II pistol as well.
"Defender of the Sacred Cod"
Capio pisces, ergo sum
atracksler - Posted - 11/09/2009: 08:36:07
quote:
Originally posted by Bassora
Don't know a lot about guns but I noticed in your (atracksler) logo you have a dog.
If you plan to take that beautiful border collie (?) with you on your hunting expedition, make sure it has a bright orange collar or vest (there are orange hunting vests for dogs).
There are some people out there who can't tell the difference between a thirty-five pound dog and a full grown buck.
Bassora Mo
from near the Big Mo
Thats a bernese mountain dog, he is not a hunting dog in any way shape or form. he's a buddy for sure, but definately isnt a hunting dog. P.S. Have a Nice Day! http://www.brycecreative.comhttp://www.mandojam.com -- free practice tracks from me to you! http://www.studio467.com
dat - Posted - 11/10/2009: 10:47:04
you could try to have him heard the deer towards you them hook the cart to him and he'll pull it back to camp for you
noli illegitimi carborundum
everybody needs at least one gun for every year old that they are, having a few extras don't hurt
FisherPicker - Posted - 11/10/2009: 10:55:20
870 (only one I own 2 of ....for a reason)
or a super x model1
Blue Skies, Tight Lines, Good Tunes...
twayneking - Posted - 11/10/2009: 10:58:02
Take that turkey!
I'm just sayin'
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Edited by - twayneking on 11/10/2009 10:59:47
dat - Posted - 11/10/2009: 10:58:08
I'll carry two 870s duck hunting, they have to be plugged to only hold three shells, but you can pick up another gun faster than you can reload the first one.
well back when we had a lot of ducks anyway
noli illegitimi carborundum
everybody needs at least one gun for every year old that they are, having a few extras don't hurt
steve davis - Posted - 11/10/2009: 11:34:08
Gramp and Dewey used to tow a dory down to "The Gunning Rocks".(A pair of islands off of Port Clyde).
They each had a Browning 12 ga. from the early 1900s and a galvanized bucket full of shells.
A bird with every shot and filled the dory with sea ducks.
They sold the ducks for 50 cents a pair.
BConk - Posted - 11/11/2009: 21:22:37
It will be an issue if you buy a shotgun that ejects the cartridge on the starboard side 
"Defender of the Sacred Cod"
Capio pisces, ergo sum
dat - Posted - 11/12/2009: 05:42:51
break action it doesn't matter or the Browning BPS ( Big Piece of S ) ejects out the bottom, I've known three people that had those that have had feeding problems with them.
noli illegitimi carborundum
everybody needs at least one gun for every year old that they are, having a few extras don't hurt
Feo - Posted - 11/12/2009: 07:28:58
Ive hunted pheasant before but never turkey ..... we used shotguns for pheasant because you don't see them until they take off in a blur and you have to knock them down quick before they get up to speed ...
Im wondering if hunting turleys is the same ? Do you use a shotgun because the turkey is going to take off in a blur ?
Or is the idea to lure them in and carefully take a bobbling , gobbily head-shot ? ( for a pellet-free Thanksgiving dinner - LOL )
Kenneth Logsdon - Posted - 11/12/2009: 07:40:27
The target on a turkey is the head, and thats the only shot you take..
KL
Brian T - Posted - 11/12/2009: 10:29:16
Feo: the idea is to either catch or lure the turkey, walking on the ground, into shotgun range.
I use George Trulock's "Truchokes", X-Full Turkey chokes, in both barrels of my favourite o/u.
Satisfactory medicine for me to use is just 12 ga x 3" shells with 1.5+oz #2 lead.
I'm far better off to shoot at the neck of a turkey, not the head. No chance of a miss if I point a little high.
Cosmetic damage from a good head shot kind of spoils the esthetics of the photo-op.
We do not know where we are going.
Nor do most of us care.
For us, it is enough that we are on our way.
Le Matelot
Feo - Posted - 11/12/2009: 14:09:16
quote:
Originally posted by Kenneth Logsdon
The target on a turkey is the head, and thats the only shot you take..
KL
ok, so no 400 yd. rifle shots at big round black body mass ? 
ambpicker - Posted - 11/12/2009: 15:05:02
For a shot like that you need a full choke
Leslie
Kenneth Logsdon - Posted - 11/12/2009: 21:04:25
 yeppt.. The tighter you choke em, the easier they are to hit... I usually use both hands...
-- In Ky only shotguns are legal for turkey... But I sure would like to hunt one with my muzzle loader I built (.32, ky full stock roman nose, squirrel rifle) like they did in the olden times.. It will group on a quarter at 50 yds... Turkey look out!!
KL
Edited by - Kenneth Logsdon on 11/12/2009 21:09:34
Gomer - Posted - 11/12/2009: 21:40:55
.300 Weatherby mag in 180 grain boattail topped with Zeiss 3X9. Especially for those pesky little squirrels
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Brian T - Posted - 11/13/2009: 08:47:35
The best shotgun on earth, bar none, is the cannister load that the American army uses in their tanks.
20-40(?) lbs titanium spheres at Mach 2. There are some wonderful videos on Youtube but I can't find them any more.
Every turkey on entire mountainsides is in trouble.
We do not know where we are going.
Nor do most of us care.
For us, it is enough that we are on our way.
Le Matelot
BConk - Posted - 11/13/2009: 10:44:11
quote:
Originally posted by Brian T
The best shotgun on earth, bar none, is the cannister load that the American army uses in their tanks.
20-40(?) lbs titanium spheres at Mach 2. There are some wonderful videos on Youtube but I can't find them any more.
Every turkey on entire mountainsides is in trouble.
Yes and not only will this gun stop every turkey on the mountainside dead in its tracks - it'll pluck them and roast them for you as well. "Defender of the Sacred Cod" Capio pisces, ergo sum
10gauge - Posted - 11/13/2009: 11:28:58
quote:
Originally posted by dat
break action it doesn't matter or the Browning BPS ( Big Piece of S ) ejects out the bottom, I've known three people that had those that have had feeding problems with them.
Hey, you can't talk about old Betsy like that.  I've never had feeding problems with my BPS. I have however seen ejected shells not fly all the way out of the reciever and get stuck between breech bolt and receiver port when locking the next shell on an 870.  The only complaint I have about my BPS is that the action is a little stiff and you have to take the whole thing apart to clean the inside tube of the forearm and the outside of the magazine to keep it adequately lubed for slicker action. I wouldn't consider it a complaint so much, but you also can't load a single shell directly into the chamber. One complaint that more than one rangemaster has expressed to me is that they can't tell if the action is open and empty just looking at it. Rangemasters can be a pain like that. Jonathan O'bug
dat - Posted - 11/13/2009: 11:45:24
nothing against Ol Betsy, the BPS's I've been around have been names Hilda or Girtrude
noli illegitimi carborundum
everybody needs at least one gun for every year old that they are, having a few extras don't hurt
10gauge - Posted - 11/13/2009: 12:08:32
quote:
Originally posted by dat
nothing against Ol Betsy, the BPS's I've been around have been names Hilda or Girtrude
noli illegitimi carborundum
everybody needs at least one gun for every year old that they are, having a few extras don't hurt
Not to hi-jack the thread, but all the funny names make me think of the charactors in Patrick McManus' books like Rancid Crabtree, Retch Sweeny and Olga Bonemarrow. Good stuff, really funny. Jonathan O'bug Page: 1 2
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