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scaggs7 - Posted - 10/29/2009:  13:55:52


Here is the story
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Mus...d/index.html



Nosferatu - Posted - 10/29/2009:  14:07:50


Yep, I posted the same this morning on the "Wolf on Trail" tropic.

http://www.banjohangout.org/topic/160157



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OM45GE - Posted - 10/30/2009:  04:21:54


That's sad and a little scary. We live in a small city but I see coyotes several times a year, mostly very early in the morning walking the dog. They always seem pretty frightened of us, but...

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slabounty - Posted - 10/30/2009:  07:07:23


Definitely strange. We have tons of coyotes here in So Cal and even though they're not "afraid" of people, they're not agressive towards them. They'll eat your pet food (if left out) or your pets (if left out and small enough (cats, small dogs, etc.)), but typically they'll just head away from people. I wouldn't trust them around small children, but I've never had an issue with them.


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dingo - Posted - 10/30/2009:  08:21:40


We have alot also, go to sleep listening to them yodel. I use to sit and watch them out playing in the pasture with the horses chasing mice, horses just ignored them. I don't leave any kind of dog food or water outside, this is just an invite. (also for stray pets) but if they come and eat some mice in the yard, more power to them.

People need to feed there pets inside. This would stop alot of these animals from coming close to people. Also don't put your trash where it is easy for an animal to get to.

Jill

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flake - Posted - 10/30/2009:  10:17:23


"....hikers saw coyotes attacking Mitchell and called 911."

I'm dumbfounded.


mike

howbah - Posted - 10/30/2009:  10:41:35


quote:
Originally posted by flake

"....hikers saw coyotes attacking Mitchell and called 911."

I'm dumbfounded.


mike



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Kenneth Logsdon - Posted - 10/30/2009:  10:45:09


My first impression too, mike... But we don't know the details..

KL

pastorharry - Posted - 10/30/2009:  12:10:20


That is extremly sad. RIP Taylor.



brokenstrings - Posted - 10/30/2009:  23:11:11


Very strange and uncoyotelike.

Jessy

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CW Spook - Posted - 10/31/2009:  07:05:23


Coyotes are becoming a real problem around here. I have two friends who have lost pets. I don't want to minimize the real tragedy, but when I read the thread title all I could think of was a stand-up comedy routine. I know...I'm sick, but putting "coyote" and "folksinger" in the same sentence is amusing somehow.

Rick

"The King has note of all that they intend, by interception which they dream not of. "

Henry V, Act ll, Scene 2.

axsis - Posted - 10/31/2009:  07:31:44


My wife and I have been presenting House Concerts for the last few years. Lynn Miles is scheduled sometime for next year. Lynn "mentored" Taylor Mitchell at her college and also co-wrote a tune with Taylor for her first CD. I had invited Tayor to come and perform that tune in June when Lynn is here. She will sadly be missed. Strange and such a young lady!

Cheers!
Don

black flag - Posted - 10/31/2009:  09:33:48


What I found most bizarre about the incident was that the attack was witnessed and the onlookers called 911 instead of chasing off the coyotes themselves. WTF!?? I'm familiar with the trail where the attack occurred and the EMS response time from the nearest town, Cheticamp, might have been an hour or more.

Perhaps the witnesses were American tourists--it distresses me to think that Canadians might be becoming as dumb and passive as their neighbors to the south.

Chris


Edited by - black flag on 10/31/2009 09:48:22

boomchucker - Posted - 10/31/2009:  09:49:13


Yeah Jessy, very unusual behavior. I live in the mountains and have been followed by a pack walking to work in the morning. But usually a well-aimed rock or stick takes care of it. I've recently heard of coyotes getting aggressive but mostly involving pets. A friends dog was nipped. I'll bet she ran. Never run. I know I'm going to look at them a bit differently now. Last time I chucked a rock at a pretty big one near my house, he just stopped and glared at me with his head lowered. Yikes. But I've never heard of anything like this in the nearly 30 years we have lived here.

"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler."

- Albert Einstein


Edited by - boomchucker on 10/31/2009 10:00:21

Pepper Laing - Posted - 10/31/2009:  09:56:46


She was from my city, and this is a freak event, for the most part coyotes are very timid, but goes to show that nature and the wild are just that, wild, you can`t predict 100%. A day or 2 after this happened I encountered 2 wolves while hikeing, and that popped into my head. What a terrible thing to happen and the Winnipeg music community is now one talent shorter.

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Sheldon - Posted - 10/31/2009:  10:16:47


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MountainBanjo - Posted - 10/31/2009:  12:09:27


Ignore trolls.

I read another article that said the person who called 911 "heard the attack and called 911". Its easy to second guess them but lets not do it on a newspaper article alone. Chances are they arent experienced at fending off coyote attacks, they could have been young people, old people, or had children with them, we dont know. The RCMP said the coyotes were acting aggressively even when they arrived.

But as I said on the wolf thread, it will probably come out that in the past people had actually courted interaction with coyotes in this area. It was a popular trail in a National Park, which draws the most inexperienced and clueless type of visitors (in general) and I'll bet you dollars to donuts these animals had come to associate humans with food (not as prey) one way or the other.

scaggs7 - Posted - 10/31/2009:  14:16:58


The reason I posted this was because it is strange behavior from Yotes, but animals are acting stranger than normal the past couple three yrs.

Jammer - Posted - 10/31/2009:  15:52:08


I am willing to bet they find traces of the animals being Rabid. It is SO UNLIKE Coyotes to act this mean to kill people. I too live right in a thicket of Coyotes, I see them often at night near the road sides here. They do not seem too scared of people but they normally do run away after seeing a person- after a long good stare. ;)


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Klondike Waldo - Posted - 11/01/2009:  17:15:29


quote:
Originally posted by black flag

What I found most bizarre about the incident was that the attack was witnessed and the onlookers called 911 instead of chasing off the coyotes themselves. WTF!?? I'm familiar with the trail where the attack occurred and the EMS response time from the nearest town, Cheticamp, might have been an hour or more.

Perhaps the witnesses were American tourists--it distresses me to think that Canadians might be becoming as dumb and passive as their neighbors to the south.

Chris



It might surprise you to find out that your neighbors to the South aren't so dumb and passive as you'd like to think, we don't all think all Canadians live in a frozen wasteland, and by the way 1 out of 4 of us down here in the Boston States have ancestors and relatives from Canada. I find your attitude offensive.

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freakydays - Posted - 11/02/2009:  02:26:01


Besides the fact that this is really sad, I never thought that coyotes could be dangerous and attack people! When I stayed in Nevada, I saw and herad them every night and never have been afraid of them, but I know that in some indian mythology they represent the evil or the hideous behaviour (of people?)
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MarkRough - Posted - 11/02/2009:  03:01:37


Evil? Not so much. Tricky, deceptive and out for his own self interest? Absolutely! There's a difference. In mythology, that is.

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Edited by - MarkRough on 11/02/2009 03:02:03

Dustyone - Posted - 11/02/2009:  07:28:48


Hi
I read that a lot of coyotes that come from the south ? have bred with our northern wolfs, and thats why there so agressive.

gottasmilealot - Posted - 11/02/2009:  09:00:26


They had to trap one here in suburbia because it was roaming a new subdivision and there was concern for people's pets and small children, as the animal was losing it's fear of humans. It was not rabid.

Out of curiosity, what would be the appropriate way to scare off a pack attacking something? It seems to me that they would be single minded at that point. I can see where a person seeing another being attacked would be concerned for their own safety.

Keith

CW Spook - Posted - 11/02/2009:  09:48:14


There are numbers of ways to drive off a pack. .38, .40, .45......

Rick

"The King has note of all that they intend, by interception which they dream not of. "

Henry V, Act ll, Scene 2.

axsis - Posted - 11/02/2009:  10:44:22


Keith, I wondered too as my wife walks a trail heavy with coyotes every morning around 7AM alone. I bought walkie talkies and she refuses to use them. I was wondering if a sports whistle would work.
I hate to see her stop walking and me at 7AM? The paper is only half read!

Cheers!
Don

pastorharry - Posted - 11/02/2009:  13:43:46


pepper spray and a big stick...comes in handy for both human and animal attacks.



scaggs7 - Posted - 11/02/2009:  14:33:11


Wasp spray.. it shoots out 20’ .

JonT - Posted - 11/02/2009:  14:33:48


The damned things terrorize our neighborhood here just at the northern edge of greater Lost Angeles. Killed a child here 20 years ago, that finally got the authorities off their ass, but since then they've been moribund, not least because of the animal rights folks who remind us that "they were here first." In the meantime they wander our streets and yards with impunity. Cats and small-to-medium dogs are not safe. Neither, really, are children. A pox on all of them.

Peace - JonT
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axsis - Posted - 11/03/2009:  10:43:54


Gosh JonT we have the same problem here in a Toronto suburb. 2 coyotes entered a back yard and dragged off their small dog. City tried to find them for 4 mnths no luck yet they are sighted all the time. Perhaps as someone posted above they are getting more agressive.

Cheers!
Don

carlos - Posted - 11/03/2009:  21:43:54


i killed 2 coyotes this week one tried to eat my cat hey your either food or wolf decide i dont like to be eaten

william libby

Brian T - Posted - 11/03/2009:  22:56:57


I was thinking that a .22cal or .38 cal derringer might be useful. Shoot one so the rest pay attention? Don't know if they're still made but the .410 "Snake Charmer" pistol was a favourite of mine.

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Retropicker - Posted - 11/04/2009:  03:53:09


Sad and a bad way to go especially for a gentle soul.

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carlos - Posted - 11/04/2009:  05:57:31


i bought the defender cause of size


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