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beegee - Posted - 10/18/2009:  19:07:34


a 1930's Bow-tie!! It has to worth a kazillion bucks!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1930s-Gibson-ma...em2c51527ae4

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dhergert - Posted - 10/18/2009:  19:11:51


What's 20 to 30 years difference. It's all from the last century...




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orioletb1 - Posted - 10/18/2009:  19:15:33


That's just not right at all

banjer5 - Posted - 10/18/2009:  19:21:46


People just don't know what they have. It does look like a pretty good bowtie though. I wonder what the s/n is.

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beegee - Posted - 10/18/2009:  19:22:06


quote:
Originally posted by dhergert

What's 20 to 30 years difference. It's all from the last century...




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Maybe he meant to type "60's"?? Like maybe 1963-65?

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Bill Rogers - Posted - 10/18/2009:  19:27:04


Guy can't even spell "cardinal."

Bill

Ks_5-picker - Posted - 10/18/2009:  19:36:38


prolly got a 15k reserve on it........You're not gonna tell him are ya ??


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Haskells RB3 - Posted - 10/18/2009:  19:44:45


and this must be the Bowtie Earl played in the 30'S

Polle Flaunoe - Posted - 10/19/2009:  06:36:19


But - it has 6 tuners - this must increase its value, I guess.

Polle

The Old Timer - Posted - 10/19/2009:  07:36:49


Notice that tailpiece with the triangular cut out, someone was asking about those tailpieces within the last month on the BHO.

First Mastertone I ever saw (in Maine, early 60s) looked exactly like this one.

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rexhunt - Posted - 10/19/2009:  15:35:12


I always look at these listings because there is or at least was a 1930's Gibson with an RB-250 neck. My dad's 1934 TB-4 9681-1 had a Gibson installed RB-250 neck around 1967. Gibson even stamped the original # on the peghead. It was a 40 hole archtop and had the original Grover tuners installed on the new neck. It was stolen around 1969.

Rex

Mike Casey - Posted - 10/19/2009:  15:56:49


It doesn't make any difference what the seller calls it. It is what it is and looks to be a nice example of a banjo that is collectable in its own right. Most who see the banjo know what it is and will bid accordingly. These banjos are probably the next collectable Gibson. Many of them have been chopped and butchered so real nice unmolested originals are becoming difficult to find. It also has a nice original case with it, something else that is very hard to find these days.

Mike Casey
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JIMBO53 - Posted - 10/19/2009:  16:24:18


I agree with Mike, but if someone who obviously has no idea about banjos, to make such a blatant lie about the year, makes me a bit suspect, too.What's going on with half an inlay in the center of the headstock or the oversized trussrod cover and extra screw at the top of the cover? Cam tuners were almost a requirement for bow-ties back then, but at least the neck hasn't been buggered up with a sliding 5th string capo.

"Life Has Been Easier On Me Than Any Lazy Person Like Myself Has The Right To Expect"-Pete Seeger

Bill Rogers - Posted - 10/19/2009:  16:57:13


Many sellers on eBay know squat about what they have. And they may talk to the counterman at the local music store, who's full of assorted nonsense. So I don't know who's lying and who's simply relying on bad information.

Bill

3fingers - Posted - 10/19/2009:  20:28:36


the S/N looks like 86998 but its kinda hard to see in the pic, it may be 66998. on the number keypad the 6 is right abouve the 3 I bet he hit the 3 by accident, Yeah thats it LOL

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f5loar - Posted - 10/19/2009:  20:51:14


The serial number is 36998 and would put this one at 1961 which to me is what it looks like, a near mint '61 250 4 hole archtop with factory scruggs tuners. The crown inlay in that angle photo looks odd because the black slip cover over the string for the B string Scruggs tuner is partially blocking it. The truss rod cover is the correct size for that year. A near mint '65 250 flathead went for less then $2000 on ebay today. When you see one still having that style original TP, those ivory plastic button large Kluson step tuner and ungeared 5th string with matching button and little wear on the back and neck you can bet on this one being all original.
I would guess the seller thinks the "36" in the number means the year made.
I asked him why he thought it was a 30's when the first year for a postwar mastertone like this was 1954. He gave me the serial no. and no other answer.


Tom Isenhour

JIMBO53 - Posted - 10/20/2009:  06:15:33


The truss rod cover does look odd as it overlaps the headstock inlay, but much more knowledgable banjo minds than mine are on this besides me. Is that 2 screws at the top of the truss rod cover, or is that extra screw part of the D tuners?

"Life Has Been Easier On Me Than Any Lazy Person Like Myself Has The Right To Expect"-Pete Seeger

f5loar - Posted - 10/20/2009:  12:53:37


Yep, that top screw above the truss rod cover is to hold on the little rubber slip cover for the Scruggs tuners. You seldom still see these still intact in that good a condition. Another reason I suspect this banjo has not been fooled with.
It helped the strings slide a little better then just raw metal to metal.
It appears this banjo will be sold now. It's above $1500 with reserve meet.
The truss rod cover looks that way because it's all the way down to the nut.
Gibson was never that precise on where the cut out for the truss rod would land so the truss rod cover would go up or down as needed to cover the cut out hole.
If you have ever doubted what the real deal is on a vintage bow-tie..... this is it.

Tom Isenhour



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