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dorse - Posted - 08/01/2009: 16:52:34
That chrome plating has really held up nicely over the years.
--Dorse
havebanjowilltravel - Posted - 08/01/2009: 19:26:29
Don,
You need to quit drooling over a banjo like this which is clearly out of your reach. That Alvarez with the homemade resonator that your cousin has is available and within your budget....
Don Davis - Posted - 08/02/2009: 03:17:12
Havebanjowilltravel,
My main axe is an Ibanez Artist lke the one pictured on my homepage. A great banjo for the money, eh? I believe they are modeled after the Gibson Mastertones, so what's the difference between mine and the PB-4 flathead?
strang - Posted - 08/02/2009: 04:51:29
maybe $50k 
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lazyarcher - Posted - 08/02/2009: 08:34:02
Yes, style 4s do rule!!!
Dave Jack
havebanjowilltravel - Posted - 08/02/2009: 09:17:07
I have played your Ibanez banjo... I know it suits you and your 'style', I use the word loosely.. but to tell the truth, it is probably the biggest mistake the Japanese have made since Pearl Harbor. In all honesty, it is not the maker's fault.. you should never have tried to convert it to a 5-striing without consulting someone from Carlton's music. You need to upgrade to the Alvarez and leave off these unhealthy flights of fancy about Gibsons..
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 08/02/2009: 12:45:51
Stick with the Averez.That piece of junk PB-4 will never amount to anything cause everyone knows Earl plays a Granada.
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 08/02/2009: 17:06:58
as grich said"he's not your regular JOE" or should i say, your averez JOE
Edited by - ninethirtyfive on 08/02/2009 18:57:09
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 08/02/2009: 17:17:24
Wayne,i guess averez is french for gibson,ya recon? quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Holcombe
Stick with the Averez.That piece of junk PB-4 will never amount to anything cause everyone knows Earl plays a Granada.
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 08/02/2009: 18:08:39
In the right hands that might be a great Banjo.Those banjos can project the sound.In the wrong hands.........I cringe at the thought.
A daily dose of prune juice will make him a regular "Joe"
Don Davis - Posted - 08/03/2009: 06:18:48
Well, I really like my Ibanez and I just don't see the difference between it and an old Gibson. Right now I'm learning the traditional chromatic break for the Martha White Theme.
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 08/03/2009: 08:16:45
Don,
Is that used the broken glass run of the fingernails on a chalk board run.Sometimes I get them confused.I wonder how that would sound on a 4? Probably the same as on an Ibanez.
Wayne
ambpicker - Posted - 08/03/2009: 08:52:24
Isn't Butch Robbins main ax a PW RB4 flathead?
Leslie
Prewar3 - Posted - 08/04/2009: 08:27:55
Yes it is, with the "french walnut".. Its a beautiful banjo and sounds incredible. Jim
Jim Prewar3
DaveInCA - Posted - 08/04/2009: 09:47:26
Unusual chalk mess in the resonator.
Dave
Edited by - DaveInCA on 08/04/2009 09:47:51
Don Davis - Posted - 08/04/2009: 12:30:47
Yeah, I noticed all that messy chalk in the resonator. Maybe something fishy there.
5stringJim - Posted - 08/04/2009: 12:38:19
quote:
Originally posted by Don Davis
Yeah, I noticed all that messy chalk in the resonator. Maybe something fishy there.
It gives an explanation of the serial number mess below the pictures, on Greg's site....... Jim Hyndman www.longway.org.uk
lethegoodtimesroll - Posted - 08/04/2009: 15:21:46
quote:
Originally posted by DaveInCA
Unusual chalk mess in the resonator.
Dave
What appears to be 2 different numbers..in the resonator...as everyone knows when it comes to Gibson anything is possible..My 1927 PB-3 doesnt have the number chalked in the resonator..its stamped in the upper right hand corner... and the serial number doesnt start with 8..However that style 4 is beautiful! 
Edited by - lethegoodtimesroll on 08/04/2009 15:22:46
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 08/04/2009: 16:48:40
The next question is do you save the neck and have a neck made or do you dress out the original neck to make a 5-string neck.Some of the neck makers out there can do it so that its hard to detect?
DIV - Posted - 08/04/2009: 18:23:37
Wow, that's a real beauty. I just can't see why more Gibson fans don't like the 4's as much as they do the 3's, 75's and Granada's. 4's DO rule!
The condition of the metal hardware is STUNNING! Look at the Snuffy Jenkins style ebony bridge!
Dan Varadi
DIV - Posted - 08/04/2009: 18:27:11
I love that catalog description that Greg quoted on this page of his site. BUT I have to make one correction. These prewar walnut 4's DID NOT use Burl. It's stump wood.
Dan Varadi
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 08/04/2009: 18:28:19
Wayne,i believe it would sound more like Earl with the ibaneze neck on it, what say you?
Greg Earnest - Posted - 08/04/2009: 19:27:52
quote:
Originally posted by ambpicker
Isn't Butch Robbins main ax a PW RB4 flathead?
Leslie
Yep, and Butch's is from the same lot (#9583) that the replacement resonator on #9525-6 came from. There were some nice banjos in the lot right after that, too. The Prewar Gibson Banjo website http://www.earnestbanjo.com
Greg Earnest - Posted - 08/04/2009: 19:32:28
quote:
Originally posted by DIV
I love that catalog description that Greg quoted on this page of his site. BUT I have to make one correction. These prewar walnut 4's DID NOT use Burl. It's stump wood.
Dan Varadi
But as Gibson catalog inaccuracies go, that's "a mere bag of shells", to quote Ralph Kramden! There are also prewar catalogs that say the Granada is walnut, and ones that show a front picture of a Granada with a rear picture of a 4 and vice versa, and I have never seen a catalog illustration of an RB-75 that didn't have a tube and plate flange. . . and then there is the catalog B.S. about Orville Gibson being a violin maker, and on and on. . . ge The Prewar Gibson Banjo website http://www.earnestbanjo.com
DIV - Posted - 08/04/2009: 20:19:07
Yeah, that's pretty entertaining!
Dan Varadi
Don Davis - Posted - 08/05/2009: 02:57:35
Gibson catalog BS....the REAL Gibsonite.
I'm just glad my Ibanez doesn't need a new neck.
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 08/05/2009: 05:03:00
935
You are right.An Ibanez neck could work with this banjo but only if the picker has a heavy hand.But what the heck if you've got an Ibanez neck it shouldn't be removed from the Ibanez pot.I'm sure the Ibanez pickers out there wouldn't swap their banjo even for a nice -4.
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 08/05/2009: 05:41:04
your right,my bad, i wasnt thinking straight quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Holcombe
935
You are right.An Ibanez neck could work with this banjo but only if the picker has a heavy hand.But what the heck if you've got an Ibanez neck it shouldn't be removed from the Ibanez pot.I'm sure the Ibanez pickers out there wouldn't swap their banjo even for a nice -4.
Edited by - ninethirtyfive on 08/05/2009 05:42:08
Don Davis - Posted - 08/05/2009: 10:31:25
Hey Dan, I see what you mean about the outer ring on the resonator at the 5- 6 o'clock spot. Kinda suspicious, huh?
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 08/05/2009: 11:37:39
i dont think gibson would let something that looked like that be shipped out.but who really knows,its only stump wood. quote:
Originally posted by Don Davis
Hey Dan, I see what you mean about the outer ring on the resonator at the 5- 6 o'clock spot. Kinda suspicious, huh?
Edited by - ninethirtyfive on 08/05/2009 11:38:57
DIV - Posted - 08/05/2009: 12:12:26
quote:
Originally posted by Don Davis
Hey Dan, I see what you mean about the outer ring on the resonator at the 5- 6 o'clock spot. Kinda suspicious, huh?
Actually, quite the opposite! the more old 4's I see, the more of them have these kind of corrections. you won't see this on the modern reissues. Dan Varadi
torpedo - Posted - 08/08/2009: 09:19:05
The Gibson sticker looks as though it's cut at the top, as though the original pot came off of a tenor. I had my TB75 coverted to a flat top by useing a conversion ring, and my label is intact. Just curious.
Joe
Don Davis - Posted - 08/08/2009: 14:24:21
quote:
Originally posted by torpedo
The Gibson sticker looks as though it's cut at the top, as though the original pot came off of a tenor. I had my TB75 coverted to a flat top by useing a conversion ring, and my label is intact. Just curious.
Joe
Yes. Shouldn't the decal on a real original pre-war one-piece flange flathead be fully intact?
DIV - Posted - 08/08/2009: 15:41:25
Many of the original flatheads came with cut labels including Earl's very own Granada. It was much easier for Gibson to further cut down and use up Archtop rims if they were available in the shop.
Yes, it does make authenticating the banjo a bit more challenging, but there are so many other things that point to this being 100%.
Dan Varadi
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