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ninethirtyfive - Posted - 07/14/2009: 11:07:53
come on grich, come clean, you have been holding back on us on this one.
grich - Posted - 07/14/2009: 11:27:15
Everything looks perfect , it's just the way I remembered it when built it . However the date is wrong I completed it in 1922 .. thanks you very much
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 07/14/2009: 11:31:11
just got a email from someone claiming to be from the previous owner giving me a little overview and said it was bought new by the original owner.FWIW
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 07/14/2009: 11:53:22
GRich,
How does this fit into the master list? Was this one built by you or your Grandpa,Kalamazoo Rich or Kal for short?
grich - Posted - 07/14/2009: 11:55:09
Just cause your buddy ninethrityfive got his account unlocked doesn't give you the right to question when I built that banjo ! 
Earls 5 - Posted - 07/14/2009: 13:17:58
must be the custom model from the ancient tale's we have all heard of....... Of coarse it used to belong to Earl .
Job 33:4 - Zech 4:6
" the truth shall stand when the world is on fire"
picknman - Posted - 07/14/2009: 13:43:27
Well it do sho nuff have his name on it. LOL
Doug
The Old Timer - Posted - 07/14/2009: 15:57:25
Well, Greg Earnest has a 9522 arch top Granada on his site. Who's to say this one isn't a "worn out" tenor that somebody bought a FANCY 5 string neck for, refinished the resonator to look REAL nice, and bought a few new gold parts like armrest and tailpiece, and had the rest replated?
Although, 44 Granadas is a batch in the mid-30s? Seems larger than the market would bear!
I would think this would be well worth looking over in person "on the chance" it's a reworked old one.
Unless I'm not in on some kind of joke and you guys already know this is a knock-off, borrowing a serial # to make it seem authentic.
The Old Timer, still learning!
grich - Posted - 07/14/2009: 17:28:52
Nice .. very nice
I have this feeling that Don Davis is not your regular Joe !
Don Davis - Posted - 07/14/2009: 17:37:33
I'm just a regular Don. Grich...tonight you sleep wid da fishes! Get it? A Don? Pretty good eh?
So Gibson used armrests, tension hoops and flanges from First Quality back in 1922?
RB3WREATH - Posted - 07/15/2009: 04:53:02
It looks like the real deal too bad it was re plated and refinished. The rim looks like a real 33 Granada rim. This is a product of the 70's when refinishing was not so bad and lots of pearl was cool! not for me great restoration project.
Joe
southerndrifter - Posted - 07/15/2009: 08:20:06
The photo of the label is just fuzzy enough to prevent anyone from determining if it's genuine or fake...........which makes me think it's fake! Also, the PON at the neck notch inside the resonator, doesn't look like any prewar ones that I've seen.
Lynwood Lunsford
If we had some ham, we could have some ham & eggs.........if we had some eggs!
KLandreth - Posted - 07/15/2009: 08:33:20
I'm with Lynwood on this one...
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 07/15/2009: 09:01:50
Has GRich got the elves at work again?
grich - Posted - 07/15/2009: 09:06:40
Moderators
Please help me , it seems as thought Mr Holcombe is stalking me from thread to thread.
I don't like him very much he scares me and may I me so bold as to ask for a 30 day lockout for him !
DaveInCA - Posted - 07/15/2009: 09:07:09
The seller sent me a clear pic of the label and it is fake--it's again the label with the misaligned "i"s and the too-long separator line.
Dave
Edited by - DaveInCA on 07/15/2009 09:08:10
hawksbill - Posted - 07/15/2009: 09:11:15
Well, what is a nice fake pre-war Granada worth these days? I bid $1600....and someone beat me out...maybe I should count my blessings, and the dollars I did'nt lose?
HAWKSBILL Nothing really good, is easy.
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 07/15/2009: 09:54:19
he also sent me a close up of the rim and #s and the stamps are wrong,all togather different from mine. Wayne, i think its time we put Grich back in the Tank. Call in the mod squad.
Charley wild - Posted - 07/15/2009: 11:21:48
Okay guys I got one for you. You've established it's a knock off. So just for fun, by what you can tell by the various parts assuming some of them ARE Gibson in origin what's this knock off worth to someone who knows it's a knock off!
(No I'm not planning to bid on it!)lol
"Marriage is sometimes a temporary thing but a good divorce can last forever"
Oscar Wilde
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 07/15/2009: 12:02:21
It's worth the sum of its parts.
raypicks5 - Posted - 07/15/2009: 15:19:08
Anybody know what inlay style is in the fretboard?
Ray
hawksbill - Posted - 07/15/2009: 15:32:40
I would pay $1800 tops
HAWKSBILL Nothing really good, is easy.
RB3WREATH - Posted - 07/15/2009: 17:40:12
I was fooled
Joe
RB3WREATH - Posted - 07/15/2009: 17:40:26
I was fooled
Joe
RB3WREATH - Posted - 07/15/2009: 17:40:34
I was fooled
Joe
RB3WREATH - Posted - 07/15/2009: 17:40:44
I was fooled
Joe
RB3WREATH - Posted - 07/15/2009: 17:40:51
I was fooled
Joe
Wayne Holcombe - Posted - 07/15/2009: 18:20:33
The bright side is you didn't buy.......you didn't buy.........you didn't buy..........
The Old Timer - Posted - 07/15/2009: 18:22:59
Has detailed analysis of the "fake" Gibson decal been posted here already? Is it archived so newer participants can study it? I think it is just fascinating and wonderful that there are people here who can advise on fake labels!
The Old Timer, still learning!
Michael Keith - Posted - 07/15/2009: 18:29:34
That Earl printed with a magic marker should be worth something. Makes you think maybe it was Earl's
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 07/16/2009: 09:00:06
item been removed.
take a look at these stamps, use your own judgement. you need to shape up GRich.
Edited by - ninethirtyfive on 07/16/2009 09:39:37
DaveInCA - Posted - 07/16/2009: 10:33:51
Question: are the holes drilled in real Granada tonerings (or in any Gibson holey rings) left as rough as shown in the pic above?
Dave
Haskells RB3 - Posted - 07/16/2009: 11:00:19
Its re listed again and appears its being sold by a music store, some of the most misleading and dishonest people I see selling instruments are often dealer/music stores. Im sure this guy got a tone of emails telling him about the banjo yet he still advertises it as a prewar Granada but now puts in "You are all banjo experts out there its your responsablity to know what your buying" Ahem, you would think he should know what hes selling , which he probably does which is why he now puts that in there.
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 07/16/2009: 11:08:12
My emails from him seem to lead me to believe he first thought it was the real thing, but after tons of experts gave their appraisals he learned that he should sell it buyer-beware and let them be the judge and jury.
Haskells RB3 - Posted - 07/16/2009: 11:13:20
He is saying buyer beware , but still advertises it as a prewar Granada, to me thats dishonest.
Edited by - Haskells RB3 on 07/16/2009 11:14:02
hawksbill - Posted - 07/16/2009: 11:19:55
He told me he has an offer of $3K cash....I told him I would bid as high as needed if he would verify it's value, after a pro appraisal....he then removed it from the auction....what a waste of time for everyone....Copies are only worth what the market will bear.
HAWKSBILL Nothing really good, is easy.
ninethirtyfive - Posted - 07/16/2009: 11:39:07
i believe i would take the money and run
biscuit joiner - Posted - 07/16/2009: 23:16:38
quote:
Originally posted by Haskells RB3
He is saying buyer beware , but still advertises it as a prewar Granada, to me thats dishonest.
Exactly. This is a pathetic CYA attempt from someone who knows full well that he is misrepresenting that banjo.
southerndrifter - Posted - 07/17/2009: 05:33:56
quote:
Originally posted by El Dobro
Hey Greg, did you stamp this one after lunch?
Don
More likely after a "smoke" break!!!   Lynwood Lunsford If we had some ham, we could have some ham & eggs.........if we had some eggs!
biscuit joiner - Posted - 07/17/2009: 07:56:26
I can't wait to see how the next chapter unfolds, auction has been updated with:
"I WILL HAVE AN APRAISAL FROM GRUHN, NASHVILLE IN 24-48 HOURS. THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS. WILL POST IT AS SOON AS I GET IT FROM THEM....."
the.hogman - Posted - 07/17/2009: 10:01:00
He sent me a note to ask if I could help identify exactly what the banjo is. Like I would know... He is clearly recognizing it isn't what he thought it was.
Phil
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Got Banjo?
bobbybanjo - Posted - 07/18/2009: 09:51:48
Yet another misleading appraisal from Gruhn, "The Best In The Business".
rb4player - Posted - 07/18/2009: 10:07:10
Truly a bizarro appraisal. Real Granadas have properly stamped serial numbers, real decals, and resonators with painted and chalked ID's. Of course someone could have inadvertently destroyed the telltale markings to completely refinish the banjo to look like a modern knockoff. And they would do that because . . . ? I guess you give a paying customer the benefit of the doubt that there is some chance (~0.05%) that part of it may be real. Oh well.
Jim
Edited by - rb4player on 07/18/2009 10:07:59
Haskells RB3 - Posted - 07/19/2009: 10:17:33
Fake Granada banjo thats all I can say, Gruhns appraisal is not that good also. The seller still lists it as Appears to be a Prewar Granada. My friend has a 1942 D28 and Gruhn appraised the value at 5K recently even though Gruhn has one for around 50K go figure. Gruhn thought he was selling it and low balled it needless to say my friend been offered a TON more then that
Haskells RB3 - Posted - 07/19/2009: 10:22:26
Fake
Edited by - Haskells RB3 on 07/19/2009 10:32:04
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